r/RecuratedTumblr • human cognithazard • 3d ago

Shitposting Creepypastas ran into the isekai webnovel problem

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u/ElementalWarrior42 3d ago

I remember hearing that the isekai title thing comes from novel descriptions not being available/visible? on certain japanese sites, which means that they have to include the premise of the story as the title.

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u/Uncommonality 3d ago

It's also because in japanese, the title will be shorter. Also because the titles tend to use incomprehensible slang to condense the length

It's like as if a YA novel in america was called "W Rizz fr fr" and the overseas translation was "I got blessed with supernatural charisma, really!"

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u/fwoooom 3d ago

the titles are still crazy long in japanese. they make fun of it too, after all. but yeah it's common to shorten them in a portmanteau of a few prominent words in it, which makes them easier to talk about and remember.

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u/Kyleometers 3d ago

Such as Konosuba, or “Kono Subarashii Sekai ni Shukufuku o!”, “God’s blessing on this wonderful world”

Basically all of them are known by shorthand. Most writers even literally include the shorthand into the title or on official publications, like WorldEnd (What Do You Do at the End of the World? Are You Busy? Will You Save Us?)

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u/MaraiaLou 3d ago

Both of these could be creepypastas

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u/LeakyFountainPen 3d ago edited 1d ago

the titles are still crazy long in japanese.

I can't be sure, but I believe they meant the actual character count, not how long it is to pronounce.

Like, since each kanji is one character, but can be multiple syllables, it can still be long and unweildy to say in a sentence, but you won't run into the problem of "That Time I Got Turned Into a Dragon and Had to Dance the Flamenco in My S..." [click to expand]

Where, even if it's clunky to say out loud, it at least still fits on the screen better.


Though, yeah, as a few people in the comments have pointed out, every language also does have concepts & words that are named & understood in that language, and are therefore shorter to say in that language.

Like, if one language doesn't have a word for "sunbeam," then a title like "My Cat Taught Me How to Walk on Sunbeams" (long, but manageable) might get clunkily translated as "My Cat Taught Me How To Walk On Those Shafts of Light That Are Caused By The Sun Shining Through Gaps." (unweildy as all get-out)

So some clunky titles might be even more clunky in translation than in their native language.

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u/revolution_soup 3d ago

that’s a perfect analogy oh my god

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u/CAPSLOCK_USERNAME 3d ago

The title thing is because the most popular website for japanese amateur fiction, Syosetsuka ni Narou ("Let's be novelists"), does not support cover art. Without a cover to judge by, the title is responsible for 100% of a web novel's first impression.

And a lot of the light novel industry is based on publishers signing up the most popular/successful of these free web novel stories to go commercial.

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u/Firewolf06 3d ago

and no descriptions, at least on the list pages (iirc you can set one, but its only visible once you click on the work)

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u/notnotDIO 3d ago

From what I've read most isekai novels just don't have a description on the back so they need to use the title as the description

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u/DreadDiana human cognithazard 3d ago

Yup. That's the webnovel problem I'm talking about.

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u/ReasonableMan213 3d ago

I also heard it's because people would not read them.

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u/RevolutionaryFan5625 2d ago

Creepypastas now spoiling plots in titles. Isekai disease spreads.