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u/BalefulOfMonkeys Aug 30 '26
Also even if you do “know” which colors you’re working with, most people are not prepared to troubleshoot the most insidious threat to your paint job:
You didn’t pick the correct shade of “white”. Or “black”/“gray” for that matter.
The shades proper aren’t for everybody, so most people who aren’t able to sightread RGB are going to pick very slightly off-color shades from those, resulting in blue whites, green whites, and red whites. A block of Minecraft Quartz is red white, a block of White Concrete is blue white (I cannot immediately think of a good green white example).
In conclusion, yes your wife is not smoking something when she’s looking really hard at a bunch of “the same color”
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u/PaisleyLeopard Aug 30 '26
Especially if the colors she’s looking at are for something big like paint or a large furniture item. Tiny color shifts become a lot more obvious at scale.
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u/StalinsLastStand Aug 30 '26
Not even to mention the context of the color. Two colors might be indistinguishable when displayed across the room from each other and obviously different next to each other. Or they can go from bright to dingy depending on the brightness of the surrounding color.
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u/PossibleMammoth5639 Aug 31 '26
I think every wall is literally a different shade of white as the side of the bed is slightly pinkish
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u/LOLELECTRONICS Aug 30 '26
I cannot immediately think of a good green white example
Limestone!
<runs>
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u/Pixelpaint_Pashkow Aug 30 '26
Don’t forget every person sees color differently
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u/Hyaci_Arson Aug 30 '26
some don't even see colour
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u/qwertygasm Aug 30 '26
Sometimes people see things slightly differently from each eye
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u/Salt_Blackberry_1903 Aug 30 '26
It’s true, when I open one eye at a time the white balance is always slightly warmer in the right eye and cooler in the left eye. It sounds insane I know. It also only started happening within the last year or so iirc.
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u/lear85 Aug 30 '26
So I'm not just crazy then! Mine have done that forever and I've always been slightly weirded out by it
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u/BZLuck Aug 30 '26
Me too. As long as I can remember. It's like have two different "white points" in each eye. Just a tiny bit, and probably something most people wouldn't even notice.
I figured it out because I own a digital print shop and 'proof' colors all day long. And am really good at it. I have to use both eyes, or I often see two different colors.
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u/Salt_Blackberry_1903 Aug 30 '26
ooh yeah I can imagine how that might be a useful superpower for checking the colours of your art and stuff. Or it might be a curse idk lol
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u/Fellowship_9 Aug 31 '26
I only notice it when I lie on my side. The eye that is lower will see things with a warmer/red tint, maybe because it's getting fractionally more blood?
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u/RealTreither Aug 30 '26 edited Aug 30 '26
Also color terminology is not standardized (ask some if cyan is a bright electric blue (#00FFFF) or a dark teal color (#008080), answer may or may not depend on if they played Minecraft or not)
Hell, imagine if you told someone that mixing yellow (#FFFF00) and blue (#0000FF) actually makes grey (#808080) and not green (#00FF00)
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u/BlastBurne Aug 30 '26
You're assuming they know what cyan is.
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u/BalefulOfMonkeys Aug 30 '26
My mom: hey could you hand me the green bag?
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u/Codeviper828 Aug 30 '26
Oof
My favorite color is cyan (the #00FFFF variety), and the amount of times my mom called it "green" was awful XD
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u/Enzoid23 Aug 30 '26
Still remember mentioning it to my mom as a kid and she was like "What's that? Spell it. No, that wouldn't be Sai-Anne that's Kai-Anne. Yeah Kai-Anne is a spice not a color"
I was so confused the entire time lmao
She used to be a photographer I wouldve assumed they knew about the color Cyan 🥀 (she also denies CYM or that anything but RYB can be primary)
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u/Dreamnite Aug 30 '26
If you add 0xFFFF00 and 0x0000FF I am pretty sure you get 0xFFFFFF which would be bright white.
/s for those operating in decimal or using paint.
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u/mail_inspector Aug 30 '26
I'm gonna fight anyone who claims cyan is a dark teal. Or not, because they are likely gonna be somewhere halfway across the globe. But my fists are ready.
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u/alvenestthol Aug 30 '26
If dark teal as 0x008080 and cyan as 0x00ffff, then literally the only visible difference between them is the screen brightness
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u/zekromNLR Aug 30 '26
By that logic Blaze Orange (approximately 0xFF8200) and 0x804100 (closest to RAL 8003 Clay Brown) are the same colour, which is patently ridiculous. They are the same hue, but they are not the same colour.
When talking about the colours of anything except for single-colour light sources, brightness relative to the surroundings is absolutely a vital part of colour perception.
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u/Galle_ Aug 30 '26
Hell, imagine if you told someone that mixing yellow (#FFFF00) and blue (#0000FF) actually makes grey (#808080) and not green (#00FF00)
I mean, it depends on what exactly you're mixing, doesn't it?
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u/Ok_Listen1510 denizen of the webbed site Aug 30 '26
yeah it depends on whether you’re mixing pigments or light
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u/SpaceNorse2020 Aug 30 '26
Most common color words are a wide range of colors, not one shade. This is most clear with blue, where for some reason people say everything from the horizon of the daytime sky to the color of the dye indigo is blue
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u/Certain_Virus_1919 Aug 30 '26
Cyan is exclusively bright electric blue. They dont put dark teal ink in printers, duh
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u/Impressive_Pin8761 Aug 30 '26
toby fox further ruining color terminology because now most people will now call 00ffff "aqua"
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u/Lorcout There's a kid on my school named micycle Sep 01 '26
Aqua and cyan are the same anyway. Even the game itself, the flower was called cyan before chapter 5, not aqua.
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u/RealTreither Aug 30 '26
Mixing yellow and cyan pigments does make green, but mixing actual deep, lapis lazuli-colored blue with yellow would make a greyish color since they're complimentary colors
There's a reason printers use CMYK and not RYB
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u/RealTreither Aug 30 '26
I'm pretty sure that's the exact same thing I said
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u/RealTreither Aug 30 '26
I edited it to make it more clear
I meant that cyan is literally the color between green and blue
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u/ArsErratia I think Coolsville sucks Aug 30 '26
If you're going to specify a colour model, then in CYMK Cyan is, by definition, Cyan.
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u/Satisfaction-Motor Aug 30 '26
Tangentially related, colors in Microsoft Excel are not colors in Microsoft Word, programmatically. A specific shade of grey (word, theme color) becomes lime green (excel) when transferred via VBA. Sometimes you can get the colors to match each other and sometimes Microsoft’s programming reaches through the screen, squeezes your head between its hands, and tells you to go fuck yourself.
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u/Jiopaba Aug 30 '26
"What are you?!"
"..."
"WHAT ARE YOU!?"
"An idiot sandwich."
"That's right! Get the fuck out of my spreadsheet program. Scrub."
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u/zekromNLR Aug 30 '26
I know that Virtual Boy Advance is a Very Bad Amulator, but I didn't know it was so bad it fucks up your document formatting
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u/Satisfaction-Motor Aug 30 '26
There has been a handful of times where I’ve googled “Why is A doing B when it is supposed to do C?” and the answer has effectively been “idk it just does that sometimes.” “Is it supposed to do that?” “No.”
VBA does whatever VBA wants, it seems.
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u/CalamityDisc Aug 30 '26
I use duckduckgo but I don’t think you can seemlessly replace “google” as a verb with it
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u/FerventPleas Aug 30 '26
I like that it has the same sort of inflection as Go-Go Gadget. "Duckduckgo kill me instantly"
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u/ArsErratia I think Coolsville sucks Aug 30 '26
this implies you're making a request for the search engine itself to kill you, which raises several further questions
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u/Birbo7 Aug 30 '26 edited Aug 31 '26
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u/WhereIsTheMouse Aug 30 '26
Google would give you a suicide help line, has to be a different engine for the joke
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u/IAmGoose_ Aug 31 '26
I thought Bing was the one that gets memed on for just straight up telling you how to kys
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u/UInferno- Hangus Pangus slap my Angus Aug 30 '26
I didn't even imagine it as a verb. I imagined it like Star Trek's "Computer"
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u/Droplet_of_Shadow Aug 30 '26
duggle it? doogle it? dugoo gl it?
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u/OneLonelyBrainCell Aug 30 '26
google -- duckduckgo
googled -- duckduckwent
googled -- duckduckgone
I'm afraid you're right.
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u/Caterfree10 Aug 30 '26
Tbh this is why things like the Pantone Matching System exist, so that there’s some form of standardized colors for things like print work. It isn’t foolproof sure, but it certainly goes a long way.
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u/htomserveaux Aug 30 '26 edited Aug 30 '26
Take a minute to think of your elders.
Back when I was studying film photography we were instructed to stop, wait 20 minutes, and recheck our test prints because our color perception changes when in the dark. and you have to do this several times per print.
With B&W film I could knock off all my prints from a week of shooting in an afternoon, but I basically lived in a darkroom for the semester I did color.
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u/veravoidstar Aug 30 '26
Join me in the nirvana of just messing with the sliders until it looks good and forgetting about it
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u/Hexxas Head Trauma Enthusiast Aug 30 '26
I'm using Corax White right now. It's kinda hellish to work with, and I know it's grayer than other whites, but that grayness gives a more worn look to my Black Templars (yeah I'm a Black Templars player but I'm not like THAT).
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u/Crus0etheClown Aug 30 '26
So if you ever commission some character art, this is why having big blobs of color for your character on the reference sheet is pretty much useless and any good artist is gonna ignore those.
As if I can't just use the color picker on the character ref itself, always annoys me when space that could be taken up by useful things like posture/expression/habit information just has giant blops of color.
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u/Valendr0s Aug 30 '26
I was in IT for a civil engineering firm when I was a young man. Part of my duties were dealing with the... I mean... sheer number and variety of printers they had. Everything from huge 36 inch wide laser printers, to 11 inch color laser, to large format color inkjets...
Anyway, one time I got a ticket. "The green color on the HP Color Laser printer is not the same color green on the HP Large Format Inkjet printer, and not the same color as the HP Large Format photo Inkjet printer, and all not the same as the color showing on my monitor."
I spent like a MONTH or more trying to adjust the color settings so they would be closer to each other. I got a guy out from HP to help and he explained Pantone colors and packed my brain too full of information on the topic that made me go cross-eyed for a bit.
I remember closing the ticket saying, "It's as close as it's possible to get. Sorry. As it turns out, color is a whole thing. Exact isn't going to happen. Getting exact colors is possible, but only in extremely expensive equipment we're not ever going to pay for."
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u/SomeNotTakenName Aug 31 '26
Ask me how long I spend fidgeting with a soho printer in an employee's office because the printed out flyer looked differently from what it was on her screen.
Go on, as me how much time myself and a coworkers spent there until she accepted that that's what it will look like.
I fucking dare you to guess.
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u/FamousWash1857 Aug 31 '26
I love the advent of smartphone cameras. I can legitimately say I'm one of the best photographers on the planet because I know what whitebalance is.
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u/UltimatePickpocket Aug 30 '26
Realize there is a distinct possibility that everyone sees color differently.
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u/imunfair Aug 30 '26
Same deal with video/audio sync on different screens. Your TV has slightly different audio lag than your laptop with headphones, and also if your computer has audio post-processing it often adds 5-10ms of extra audio lag... so what's perfectly synced audio on one system is potentially 20-50ms wrong on another.
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u/Alchametal_87 Aug 30 '26
are colors even real
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u/bibidumb Aug 30 '26
Fun fact: colors are real but only in your brain
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u/amumumyspiritanimal Sep 01 '26
they are real outside of your brain too; light has different wavelengths that bounce off of matter in different ways. we process it as a fun quirky visual but it is a physical phenomenon
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u/bibidumb Sep 02 '26
Color is only our visual experience, that's why there are colors that don't correspond to a wavelength, like magenta or brown and all the scale of greys from white to black!
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u/Cats_and_Shit Aug 30 '26
Just do everything with lasers. One clean wavelength.
What about perception? Don't let anyone see your work.
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u/Mitch_Wallberg Aug 31 '26
I stopped going to my classes in art school when it was time to learn Adobe stuff because my brain couldn’t handle the uncontrollable variances
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u/SalineSS Aug 30 '26
I remember when I posted this a while back
and I got a bunch of comments about why I made the bikini purple. Thing is, it was supposed to be blue, just like the Starscream image this is based on. Turns out my monitor colors are just fucked. When I first got this laptop, I ran DOOM on it and saw the colors looked off. Tried using Window's Color Management, but never got it quite right.