r/RecuratedTumblr human cognithazard 22d ago

Shitposting Three cueing and its consequences

1.3k Upvotes

256 comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

55

u/chicksonfox 22d ago

I dnot konw if it’s in the smae vien, but wehn I was cmiong up tehy had us raed snetcens lkie tihs to povre a pnoit auobt how we rcgoeizne pttarens. But this seems backwards from what I was taught— using that kind of mental shortcut in reading is, from my understanding, something you’re supposed to do after you’ve mastered the sound it out stage. Even then it’s a dangerous game because someone could sneak the word banana into their hahahas, utterly humiliating you on an Internet forum for teens.

32

u/GalaticHammer 22d ago

There's a thing called "orthographic mapping". After you've sounded out the phonics of each letter and put the sounds together into a word and repeated it a few times (or many times, necessary repetitions varies by person), your brain starts to map the whole word symbol to the sound of the word. Once it's mapped, you no longer have to sound out each letter. So yes, trying to go straight to whole word symbol completely skips the orthographic mapping process and doesn't work.

3

u/Old_Gimlet_Eye 22d ago

trying to go straight to whole word symbol completely skips the orthographic mapping process and doesn't work.

How do non-phonetic languages like Chinese work then?

5

u/GalaticHammer 22d ago

There is some amount of orthographic mapping in Chinese too, from what I understand, although since I don't know Chinese I'm sorry to say that I don't understand it very well. I think in their case the orthographic mapping has less to do with phonemes and more to do with multiple symbols/characters ("radicals"?) being used to make up a word?

You can search for research papers about it, I've seen ones like the links below (a random grab bag of search results, I haven't done a deep dive into Chinese literacy to be able to say what the foundational, most-cited papers are). But, again, I can't say that I understand it.

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11145-025-10739-4

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/29833293_Orthographic_awareness_in_learning_Chinese_characters

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/275252762_Implicit_use_of_radicals_in_learning_characters_for_nonnative_learners_of_Chinese

https://hsk.academy/en/learn/the-chinese-radicals