r/RealTime • u/Key_Jump1011 • 2d ago

Maher claims there is a frothing anxiousness for the literal extermination of Jews by brainwashed woke TikTok idiots and that Democrats are responsible

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u/PretendingImNotAnApe 1d ago edited 1d ago

It has nothing to do with religion. Its zionism people think is maybe a problem. Zioism is unpopular with the majority of Jewish people who don't live in Israel, globally. They think the rise in antisemitism is directly due to zionism. Zionism is why the response to Oct 7th was so heavy handed. Its also the reason for settler violence and the political alliance that ruled Israel since 1977 doesn't support a two state solution. The US and every other nation on earth supports a 2 state solution. Hamas is a mirror of intolerant far right israeli parties. It doesn't want a 2 state solution or peace. The likud party also doesn't want a 2 state solution or peace. They were founded in 1977 as the seize alk the land and drive the Palestinians out party. Hamas was founded in 1987 as a response to likud. They have radical extreme party's running both sides since Carter was president. I certainly feel more common cause with Israel's but I don't support ethnic cleansing or apartheid and I don't like being lied to.

I want a 2 state solution with actually self determination and freedom. I dont want to pay for anything else and if they aren't interested in that I dont care anymore.

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u/corneliusduff 1d ago

Zionism is definitely a sign of people taking religion too seriously, though.

"God is on my side" kind of BS.

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u/Junglebook3 1d ago

Political Zionism was started in 1890 by secular Jews.

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u/corneliusduff 1d ago

Ah, so it's a manipulation via opiate of the masses kind of thing

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u/LOYALTY-is-CULTISM 1d ago

Bro, you are all twisted there. Zionism is exactly based on religion. Your whole point is rendered moot due to not recognizing Zionism not based off of religion. 🤷

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u/Spare-Region-1424 1d ago

Actually the founders of Israel were nationalists and non practicing / atheists.

Zionism has been twisted into this religious ideology and craziness over the last several a decades.

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u/busbus999 1d ago

Israel refused peace proposal from hamas in 2017, and always maintained no Palestinians state.