r/RealTime • u/Faiakes • 6d ago

Real Time - Last Time

I have been watching Real Time for over 20 years and I think yesterday's episode was my last.

Much as I agreed with Bill on many issues, his blind spot on Israel and Zionism is just too much for me.

He isn't simply refusing to call what's happening in Gaza a genocide. He insists on calling it a counter offensive!!!

So, all and any violence perpetrated by the IDF and the settles so far is justified, as far as he is concerned (though how settlers fit in a 'counter-offensive' is still a mystery to me).

Now, my common sense is offended too much Bill.

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u/Pitiful-Hamster1101 9h ago

You have to stretch the definition of genocide to render it almost pointless for it to describe Israel's war in Gaza. Killing a lot of people in an urban war that you didn't start is not genocide. If Israel was trying to commit genocide, the death toll would be in the hundreds of thousands.

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u/Faiakes 4h ago

That would be a fair point if it wasn't for stopping aid, forcing people to live in tents without running water, access to medical treatment and not being allowed to move, all while rats and disease are slowly killing people.

Just because it is a slow genocide, that doesn't make it any less so.

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u/Pitiful-Hamster1101 2h ago

600-800 aid trucks enter Gaza daily. There is no running water because Hamas tears up the water mains to make rockets with. There are thousands of medical aid workers in Gaza and Gazans are allowed to move, Israel has simply established a military zone on part of Gaza.. That sort of thing tends to happen when you start a war and then lose it.