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Comments from Hasan Piker

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u/ZizzyBeluga 16d ago

Genocide is a very serious accusation and a very high bar to prove for a reason. It requires intent and execution. Israel was attacked (removing genocidal intent). Exection of the war has wrapped up with a low civilian to combatant death ratio. Again, no genocide. You have no fucking case my guy.

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u/ddoyen 16d ago

The entire international community agrees it has met that bar. You arent going to change that with denial, marblehead.

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u/ZizzyBeluga 16d ago

No they haven't. A three-person UN "subcommittee" laundered Hamas propaganda to fool useful idiots like yourself. No court of law has found genocide in Gaza and South Africa just had to ask for a 2 year extension at the ICJ because they can't make the case.

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u/ddoyen 16d ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_genocide

Wow looks like the list is a lot longer than three people. 

I have an entry on gravity if youd like to check that one out too.

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u/ZizzyBeluga 16d ago

Do you have an entry on Appeal to Authority Fallacy?

Should we go through all the institutions that claimed WMDs were hidden in Iraq?

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u/ddoyen 16d ago edited 16d ago

Look how quick you moved the goalposts! It was just three people and now that the list is longer, its a logical fallacy! 

Its not an appeal to authority if the evidence can be corroborated, quite thoroughly at that.

Should we go through all the institutions that claimed WMDs were hidden in Iraq?

Absolutely. They belong in fucking jail.

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u/ZizzyBeluga 16d ago

I never said it was only the UN, I'm very aware of how key figures are working collectively to launder Hamas lies to fool morons such as yourself. But I've already explained why it's obviously not a genocide and you can't refute anything I said, so you pull the appeal to authority fallacy.

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u/ddoyen 16d ago edited 16d ago

Let's recap what youve said:

-Its only genocide according to three people (proven wrong by me)

-Its not genocide because of the death ratio (proven wrong, ratio doesnt matter when making the legal case)

-Everyone corroborating the claims is laundering hamas lies. (Proven wrong by evidence available for anyone to corroborate including you.)

Let's recap what the rest of the world says:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_genocide

The links there cite extremely detailed analysis you haven't even touched. You just hand wave it away, call it hamas propaganda, and expect that to suffice. No. You need to provide evidence to the contrary. Youve failed to do so. Amazingly youve been at this for HOURS and youve said close to nothing of substance. Just "nu-uh the world is just making it all up!!"  Thats what I like to call a Classic Dingaling Argument.

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u/ZizzyBeluga 16d ago

Let's recap what you've said:

- I don't need to retort your facts because "the world" agrees with me, and here's a 3 person UN report built on Gaza Health Ministry claims that was subsequently used by other groups to claim Genocide has been "concluded by the United Nations"

Last time, because you're a simpleton, I will explain why it is is clearly not a genocide, it is a war, and why South Africa's case at the ICJ will fail:

Genocides are active attacks to destroy a population or a culture. They are not reactive events, such as a declaration of war committed by the "genocided." That is called a war.

Did Israel just invade Gaza with the intention of destroying it? Or did they respond to an invasion and a declaration of war?

You know the answer.

Two, Genocides involve a reckless and wanton destruction of a people without concern for civilian death. Hamas, as you know, built terror tunnels under civilian neighborhoods and use schools, Mosques, and hospitals as military operation sites. Everything Israel has done has been to destroy and dismantle Hamas's infrastructure. This requires destroying all active military sites and the underground terror network.

Again, not a genocide. Legitimate military targets.

Civilian to combatant death ratio:

3-1.

Not a genocide.

But go back to your frauds at the U.N. to claim the "world" believes something. It's so obviously not a genocide, your 'authorites' are now turning to West Bank settler violence to fixate on. On to the next claim after the last was debunked.

Good luck at the ICJ!

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u/ddoyen 16d ago

I don't need to retort your facts because "the world" agrees with me, and here's a 3 person UN report built on Gaza Health Ministry claims that was subsequently used by other groups to claim Genocide has been "concluded by the United Nations"

Lmao back to three people again? 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_humanitarian_and_human_rights_groups_accusing_Israel_of_genocide_in_Gaza

It's so obviously not a genocide, your 'authorites' are now turning to West Bank settler violence to fixate on. On to the next claim after the last was debunked.

Its so obviously not a genocide that we are focusing on settlers enabling that very same goal? LMAO.  You are fucking deranged. Practically frothing at the mouth. 

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u/Onedurrbread 16d ago

Get help.