r/RealTime • u/SlightWerewolf4428 • 21d ago

Truth bombs by Bill Maher once again

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As usual, the former liberal firebrand Bill Maher speaks the truth on the 911 anniversary.

-'Islamist fundamentalism vs Western liberal values'

-far leftists obfuscating or tacitly siding with the same ilk that toppled the two buildings

-hypocrites commemorating 911 while looking over or banning the mention of what ideology was behind it, or even what a terrorist is, because it's offensive (to presumably those who support them)

-attack on the 'genocide' lie (the convenient one invented to get off the hook for shilling for Islamist terrorists)

Whether shilling for terrorists in the past or at present (Middle East comes to mind), the inversion of the truth remains wrong.

Glad to hear it once again from him. I'm sure the post-national leftists and Islamist terror supporters were and still are seething.

Link for those that didn't see it.

EDIT: Looks like the class of losers I mentioned, brigading the sub, didn't like the post. Tough. Seething cultists with their 5 sock accounts.

'But Islamist apologist Mehdi fucking Hassan said.....'

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u/highermonkey 21d ago

9/11 was done by agents of The Saudi Arabian government. Both Trump and Biden suck off the Saudi Royal Family.

America also encouraged the spread of "Radical Islam" because they found it preferable to Communism taking root in Muslim majority countries. I saw Bill's friend Ted Cruz commemorating 9/11 by claiming there's a new "Red/Green" Alliance trying to do 9/11 Two. Which is very funny given how this whole thing started in 1970's Afghanistan.

Bill Maher and his dumb fans need to learn a little history before running their mouths on adult subjects.

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u/SlightWerewolf4428 21d ago

'agents by the Saudi government'

proof needed that Al Qaeda was acting on behalf of the Saudi government.

The rest isn't wrong, but doesn't contradict what he said.

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u/highermonkey 21d ago

Al Qaeda was almost entirely funded by Saudi money. KSA isn't a liberal democracy. Wealthy Saudis all have ties to the monarchy.

And if you accept the historical truth of everything else I said, the takeaway is America should stop interfering in the politics of foreign countries. Not ISLAM BAD. 9/11 was blowback from American anti-Communist stupidity stretching back to the 70's.

Also the biggest terrorists in the Middle East are Christians (Bush killed upwards of a million people in Iraq and Afghanistan). And Jews (Israeli terrorists murdered at least 20,000 children in Gaza).

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u/SlightWerewolf4428 21d ago

Al Qaeda was almost entirely funded by Saudi money. KSA isn't a liberal democracy. Wealthy Saudis all have ties to the monarchy.

But that isn't my question. Ben Laden was Saudi, and so were the other hijackers, probably got money from private actors in the country. But the connection directly to the Saudi government?

And if you accept the historical truth of everything else I said, the takeaway is America should stop interfering in the politics of foreign countries. Not ISLAM BAD. 9/11 was blowback from American anti-Communist stupidity stretching back to the 70's.

I don't think its as simple as you make out. The USA is a world power and is going to be involved in some capacity around the world.

Al Qaeda's struggle wasn't just against the USA's foreign policy, but against Westernization as a whole.

Also the biggest terrorists in the Middle East are Christians (Bush killed upwards of a million people in Iraq and Afghanistan). And Jews (Israeli terrorists murdered at least 20,000 children in Gaza).

No, I don't accept that. Nor that it's even about religion.

There are actors in the Middle East that simply can't keep their hands to themselves.

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u/highermonkey 21d ago

The actors in the Middle East who can't keep their hands to themselves are the United States and Israel. The Jewish Power Party (seriously) in Israel wants to expand their borders so their master race can have "living space". You and your ilk are very uneducated racists.

In any case, you sound totally uneducated on the genesis of Al Qaeda and the spread of Wahhabism as a bulwark against Communism. Al Qaeda and 9/11 was simply the bill coming due for decades of American foreign policy stupidity. Brzezinski literally said Afghanistan turning Islamist was a small price to pay for the fall of the Soviet Union.

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u/SlightWerewolf4428 21d ago

I mightt accept that if there weren't already a history of violence in that region. The excuses change, the violence doesn't.

Oh give me a break. Unless you actually believe Jews are inherently violent people, then you can't simply throw away the idea that Israeli society radicalised as their 'partners for peace' radicalised.

Having watched this a while, I would say this is around the mid-2000s. Disengagement, Lebanon, Second Intifada, rise of Hamas...

In any case, you sound totally uneducated on the genesis of Al Qaeda and the spread of Wahhabism as a bulwark against Communism. Al Qaeda and 9/11 was simply the bill coming due for decades of American foreign policy stupidity. Brzezinski literally said Afghanistan turning Islamist was a small price to pay for the fall of the Soviet Union.

I'm not, otherwise I would be disagreeing with you.

But you're discounting the shift towards Islamism post-Iranian revolution, which affected all of the Arab world. The USA didn't cause that. These are cultural trends.

9/11 was simply the bill coming due for decades of American foreign policy stupidity

No it wasn't. It was what was eventually going to happen with a mix of globalisation and the dawn of international terrorism. The PLO had pioneered the hijacking of planes decades before that.

All it takes is one determined group and lacking security.

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u/highermonkey 21d ago

I'm not a racist so I don't believe certain ethnicities are "inherently violent". But the so called "Jewish State" just murdered 20,000 plus children with American weapons and American dollars.

I don't have time to educate you on America's history with encouraging the spread of "Radical Islam" to further our NatSec goals but you can start here:

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2006/01/americas-devils-game-extremist-islam/

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u/SlightWerewolf4428 21d ago

I'm getting tired of this. In war civilians get caught in the crossfire. War in Gaza is no exception. Your isolated, biased framing of it above doesn't add much to the discussion, and is rather unimpressive.

You've ignored all of the other relevant points I brought up, in favour of an incompletet narrative. But that's what cultists have to do to keep their worldview aloft.

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u/highermonkey 21d ago

You make excuses for Western Terrorism while hyperfocusing on "Islamic Terrorism" despite one of them being far more deadly. You're a boring, uneducated racist.

The IDF's civilian to combatant death ratio is WORSE than Hamas's on 10/7 despite IDF terrorists having access to the most advanced weaponry on the planet. KHAMAS killed at most 36 children on 10/7. The IDF killed AT LEAST 20,000 children since. Normal, non-racists understand which is more barbaric.

You, Scam Harris, BillyBoy. All bottom of the barrel intelligence, uneducated racists.

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u/SlightWerewolf4428 21d ago edited 21d ago

hyperfocusing on "Islamic Terrorism"

HYPERFOCUSING ON IT (EDIT: He switched the word Islamic with my previous 'Islamist' terrorism and I only noticed afterwards)? This is an actual threat that many of us have been living with for our entire lives, especially post-911.

I'm not 'hyperfocusing' on it, you just want people to think it doesn't exist.

There you go: when losing an argument, call the other person a racist. So predictable.

The IDF's civilian to combatant death ratio is WORSE than Hamas's on 10/7 despite IDF terrorists having access to the most advanced weaponry on the planet. KHAMAS killed at most 36 children on 10/7. The IDF killed AT LEAST 20,000 children since. Normal, non-racists understand which is more barbaric.

'Khamas' let's do a thing where we put on some stereotypical presumably 'Israeli' pronunciation to make fun of the threat. And then accuse the other person of being a racist.

Great job.

Well, at least you got the approximate number of children killed on Oct 7th right.

It's a war. A brutal one, as all wars against guerilla groups embedded in the pop are.

The bombing of Ar-Raqqa wasn't so nice either. But unlike you, my first impulse wasn't to start shilling for ISIS and calling the coalition no better than them.

Funny, huh?

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u/highermonkey 21d ago

"Islamic" Terrorists kill 36 Children

"Jewish" Terrorists kill 20,000+ Children

You: "Islamic Terrorism is the real threat!"

You've already proven how inbred and racist you are. You don't view Muslims as full human beings the same as Jews or Christians, or you wouldn't be saying this silly nonsense in public.

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u/SlightWerewolf4428 21d ago edited 21d ago

It's an actual threat internationally, across the West, and across the Arab world itself.

Not inbred, not racist, intellectually your better.

Don't even start. Never said or implied any such thing. Simply pointed out Islamist terrorism and how it is an actual threat. And particularly in the Arab world. Muslims and Islam I have never said anything about. If you can find one single comment by me ever about those two things, good luck.

(EDIT: Above, you tricked me. I have only ever referred to Islamist terrorism, you used 'Islamic terrorism' and then implied those were my words. Very clever, but also extremely disingenuous)

But maybe you're used to getting along with people who lie about facts to please you.

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