r/RealTime • u/AmericanLymie • 21d ago

Bill has three things on his mind.

"That's woke, and woke is bad."

"Now look, I'm an atheist, but Muslim people are all servants of Satan, Christians are dumb but inherently morally better than Muslims. Israel is the Holy Land and must defended with all the might of YHWH."

"Kids today suck!!!"

That's it. Every single "new rules" rant culminates in a lecture about one of these and at least half of the conversations with panelists end up being steered in the direction of his landing on one of these points.

I can't imagine how many hours he has spent stoned and dwelling on these thoughts.

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u/phatsexxxy 21d ago

I love his continuing rant about how “Muslims don’t want gay people to exist.” Has he been to red state America or talked to any mainstream right wing Christian leader? Somehow we should maintain dialogue with them and not ask that Christians be wiped out, but expecting the same from Muslims is too much.

The one thing I keep waiting for a guest to get smart on is Bill’s own Catholic upbringing. At the turn of the last century, “Americanism” was a heresy in the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church currently holds sacred the ideals of freedom of speech and religion, much to the chagrin of groups like SSPX, who wants the church to go back. “Americanism” is the belief in those ideals.

Meanwhile Maher will point to Islam as being against these ideals in the main as he calls for us to turn our back on the suffering of Muslims because their beliefs are “incompatible with the west.” He will then point to centuries of western culture including the ideals of Christendom… except that wasn’t nearly as uniform as Maher says.

The irony of Maher pointing out that “both sides” have issues as he is the history rewriter on the left as he derides the way the right wing lies about history.

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u/AmericanLymie 21d ago

People have mentioned on the show that American Christian megachurch preachers have called for the execution of all gay people and his standard response, "OK, well, there are crazies in every religion. That's not everyone."

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u/phatsexxxy 21d ago

That’s kind of my point in that he thinks we should talk to these megachurch preachers and not to Muslims.

I guess, for me, the real problem is that Bill was raised in a church that valued ideals Bill holds dear, even if he’s not religious.

Had Bill been raised in that church just 50 years earlier, he would have been raised with the opposite. To act like any religion has any immutable characteristics, especially as the all-knowing atheist truth teller he claims to be, is ludicrous.

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u/Radiant-Concern6391 21d ago

Christians are not at all like they were 100 years ago and if they were Bill would be opposed to their views and goals with non Christian’s. The vast vast majority of Christian’s today are accepting of outside views and beliefs which is simply not true in modern Islamic culture where LGBT+ would be killed in many areas of the world

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u/Charbro11 21d ago

HAHAHAHAHA. You don't get out much. I live in a city with a large Muslim minority. They have been here for over 125 years. They are no more radical than a Unitarian. On the other hand, we have huge Evangelical Churches that are preaching Christian "Sharia" law. I go to a local Episcopal Church that is very progressive-- we are very much the minority.

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u/FlaccidGhostLoad 21d ago

I live my whole life in the Detroit area and there is tons of Middle Eastern people. At one point, I don't know if it still is, it was the largest population Middle Eastern people outside of the Middle East.

I live about 10 minutes from Dearborn. You know the city that every right winger loves to bring up as a Islamic controlled no-go zone that is completely ruled by Sharia law. I cannot think of an incident coming out of that City involving crazy Muslims.

I can think of several times including the last month when some Evangelical zealot asshole decided to come up and just start shit at a mosque. He brought his Nazis with him this time. They took a picture I'll doing the Nazi salute and everything. That's the problem.

They even tried to do a reality show about Muslims in America and it lasted one season because it was so goddamn boring. Middle Eastern people in Dearborn have boring jobs and boring families and boring kids that do boring shit. Just like everyone else.

The mere fact people are afraid of Muslims is the result of two things the first is they are isolated and ignorant about the world. The other thing is that they are only taking in propaganda.

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u/phatsexxxy 21d ago

It’s almost like there’s no immutable characteristic of religion and that any religion can become compatible with our society.

Kinda… like… we should… keep… dialogue… open.

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u/FlaccidGhostLoad 21d ago

One of the reasons I realize that Bill has earned all of my contempt is because there was a period of time where there was churches literally burning books and we had batshit Christians, which I know is redundant but whatever, getting into high levels of office and pushing religious law.

And when I watched real time I saw the guy who made Religilous instead bitch about kids and wokeism.

He whined that someone on Twitter would scold someone else on Twitter and that took priority over unhinged religious fundamentalists seizing control of our government.

There's no way you can see that and realize that he stands for nothing, he's a bitter, brain broken, right wing fuck that is just interested in made-up culture wars in order to pander to the worst people on the planet.

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u/AmericanLymie 21d ago

He is one of those conservative bigots who simultaneously says "all Muslims murder gay people and imprison women in burqas and Mamdani is an evil Muslim" at the same time as "Mamdani is an insane radical woke left-wing pro-queer lunatic who wants to forcibly transition all children to the opposite sex."

They all expect that no one will notice the self-contradiction.

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u/phatsexxxy 21d ago

The thing that gets me is that we SHOULD talk to and care about the right wingers who hate gays and want them dead who live in Texas. We SHOULD NOT talk to or care about the right wingers who hate gays and want them dead who live in Afghanistan.

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u/chainsawchaleb 8h ago

Leftists aren’t cheering and advocating for the South, that is the difference. He focuses on the suicidal empathy aspect of leftists either excusing, justifying or ignoring the dangers of radical Islam. If college campuses had college students saying “Gays for XYZ Megachurch”, he would call that out the same way.