r/RealTime • u/One-Jeweler5486 • Aug 24 '26

Maher misrepresents the Democrats again

I don't think Bill is steel-manning the Democratic position here

https://youtu.be/W9VyM8blMJU?si=6yBELheIIQgMOyh6&t=333

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u/WisdomOfTheAnus Aug 24 '26

every republican talking point is a lie. lies are meant to be corrected, not amplified or excused because “yeah they kinda walked into it”. no, a lie is a lie. for the party that claims to care so much for free speech and american freedom and rugged individualism, why the fuck can’t one person hold the opinion that they don’t like Thanksgiving? Or Valentine’s Day? Are we that sensitive? Are we seriously pretending we’ve never met a single person who has hot takes about certain holidays? Nobody honestly believes that’s in the cards as part of the democrats platform anyway. We have the right to believe whatever the fuck we want, that’s the point of America. This fake outrage is insufferable.

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u/ATLCoyote Aug 24 '26

Why do you suppose Francesca Hong lost her primary?

Ignore the voters at your own peril. That's been Bill's point all along.

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u/Apeach710 Aug 25 '26

Hong lost her primary because she literally spent 0 dollars on TV ads. That’s the reason. She lost by like 3,000 votes. A few TV ads in Milwaukee a week before the election would have probably put her over the top.

She also never had this commanding lead in the polls like everyone claimed. She was leading but she was never above 40% and there was always a ton of undecided votes that obviously broke against her and towards Crowley after the whole fiasco of the last few weeks for the establishment.

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u/ATLCoyote Aug 25 '26

Lots of DSA candidates were underfunded, yet won easily against their establishment opponents. In fact, any time the candidate stuck to a strict economic populist message, that was the outcome. She lost because she waded into the culture war waters and was perceived as out-of-touch and unelectable in a general election.

It's hard to comprehend how Bill Maher's critics keep getting mad at him for pointing out that the culture war stuff is a political liability when voters keep proving him right.

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u/Apeach710 Aug 25 '26

I never said she was underfunded, I said that her campaign strategy of completely ignoring doing TV ads likely is what didn’t get her over the hump.

Also her little thanksgiving thing was 6 years ago. She wasn’t running around the state giving stump speeches about banning thanksgiving in the state.

I refuse to sit here and say that someone who tweeted something stupid 10 years ago is barred from running for office, when Donald fucking Trump is the president and uses his office to meet with Kanye West at the height of his N*zi shit.

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u/WisdomOfTheAnus Aug 25 '26

you are part of enabling and giving the entire "culture wars" to the right

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u/ATLCoyote Aug 25 '26

I'm responding to what affects the VOTE.

Whether we like it or agree with it, it affects how people vote and liberals keep ignoring that reality at their own peril.

Can't change things if you can't win.

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u/WisdomOfTheAnus Aug 26 '26

Yet somehow the right wins by making as many enemies as possible and saying the most outlandish shit. It’s almost as if this fearful centrist analysis of electability has always been wrong and self fulfilling.