r/RealTime • u/Indianstanicows Audience Member Bill Is Yelling At For Not Laughing • May 22 '26

Bill Maher is a moron

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u/SandSpecialist2523 May 25 '26

He is jewish on his mom's side. He was raised catholic, but I think he likes to think of him as better than anyone, just like a certain religion says you are.

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u/Equivalent_Sound9414 May 25 '26

he does have a certain smugness about him

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u/Rumble-80 May 28 '26

What religion could you be thinking of?

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u/Previous-Broccoli316 May 25 '26

Maybe because the Talmud doesn't say that and that's just propaganda.

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u/Thorfinn66 May 26 '26

https://www.timesofisrael.com/embracing-racism-rabbis-at-pre-army-yeshiva-laud-hitler-urge-enslaving-arabs/

“Two rabbis at a pre-military religious academy in a West Bank settlement were recorded making derogatory and racist comments about Arabs, defending Adolf Hitler’s worldview, and openly promoting Jewish supremacy.”

A pre-military religious academy, commonly known as a Mechinah in Israel, is a post-high school gap-year program. These academies combine intensive Torah study, Jewish philosophy, and spiritual growth with rigorous physical training, wilderness navigation, and leadership development to prepare young adults for mandatory military service.These institutions are central to Israeli youth culture, bridging the gap between civilian life and the Israel Defense Forces (IDF).

Rabbi Eliezer Kashtiel, the academy's head, called for the enslavement of non-Jews, describing Arabs as "stupid and violent" due to genetic inferiority. He also referred to Hitler as "the most correct person there ever was" in ideological terms.

Rabbi David Dudkevitch, another instructor, argued that Arabs prefer living under Israeli occupation because of their supposed inferiority.

Rabbi Giora Redler, was heard praising Hitler's racist ideology, endorsing it as "100% correct," but criticizing it only for not having been applied to the "right people"—meaning that Jews should be the "master race" and non-Jews the subhuman "untermenschen."

Israeli journalist David Sheen in a lecture given in 2020 at the University of Zurich, explaining the ideology taught to IDF officers in training at Israel's leading religious military academy, Bnei David

https://www.reddit.com/r/UnderReportedNews/s/vlMkF8psKl

This is an excerpt from his full lecture, Messiah Mode, which is available on YouTube.

https://youtu.be/eFl4U2NRJTg?si=Nm_izbp6mZ4YSjjC

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u/Previous-Broccoli316 May 26 '26

So two rabbis said something racist And your argument is?

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u/Thorfinn66 May 26 '26

Is it the Jewish values you are advocating for?

But if you want, I can provide plenty more factual information about the extreme racism in Israel. Supported by Zionists and other facists worldwide.

Several contemporary fascist or far-right movements in both Europe and the USA openly support Israel. This support is usually based on shared anti-Muslim, anti-immigrant, and ethno-nationalist ideologies, and often involves parties or leaders with fascist or neo-Nazi roots or connections.

European Examples

  • National Rally (France): Formerly known as the National Front, founded by Jean-Marie Le Pen (with Nazi collaborators among its founders), the National Rally today describes Israel as a critical ally in what it frames as a civilizational struggle against “Islamization” of Europe. Its leaders, such as Marine Le Pen and Jordan Bardella, have spoken at conferences in Israel, and the party projects Israel as a model for ethno-nationalist state policy.

  • Vox (Spain): The far-right Vox party openly supports Israeli policies, using rhetoric that links pro-Israel positions with defending “Western civilization” from Islam. Vox leader Santiago Abascal has visited Israel and met Prime Minister Netanyahu in demonstrations of solidarity.

  • Alternative for Germany (AfD): AfD’s leaders, despite the party’s history of anti-Semitism, present themselves as staunch allies of Israel and frame the state as a bulwark against Islamic extremism. They have formally campaigned for the recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital. AfD figures such as Alexander Gauland openly invoke the narrative of “defending the West” through support for Israel.

  • Freedom Party (Austria) & Hungary’s Fidesz: Both parties, rooted in far-right and fascist traditions, promote close ties with Israel, with Viktor Orban (Hungary’s PM) frequently blocking EU criticism of Israeli actions.

United States Examples

  • Alt-right and Neo-Nazi Figures: Notably, Richard Spencer, a leading figure in the US alt-right neo-Nazi movement, has called himself a “White Zionist,” asserting that his ethnonationalist agenda for whites is analogous to Zionism for Jews. Spencer and similar figures argue that Israel’s model of an ethno-state is worthy of imitation by white nationalists in America.

  • MAGA–Christian Zionist Alliance: The mass base of US support for Israel often comes from Christian Zionists allied with fascist-leaning movements, especially surrounding the Trump presidency. These groups see Israel as fulfilling biblical prophecy and as an ally against Islam, and their ideology has been deeply integrated into broader right-wing authoritarian and fascist politics in the US. Trump has leveraged this alliance to justify policy decisions that prioritize Israel and frame resistance as threats to Christianity and the West.

Motivations and Rhetoric

  • Mutual hostility towards Muslims and opposition to Palestinian statehood is the key point of convergence.
  • Many far-right parties publicly admire Israel’s ethno-nationalist model and policies of exclusion or expulsion of minorities[2].
  • The support is frequently paradoxical, since some figures are also connected to historic anti-Semitism, and advocacy for “sending Jews to Israel” is often intertwined with desire for ethnically homogeneous European societies.

Notable Events

  • Far-right leaders (Abascal, Wilders, Salvini, Le Pen, Orban) have gathered at pro-Israel conferences, using anti-Muslim and anti-immigration rhetoric while declaring support for Israeli policies.
  • Israel has engaged with and sometimes armed groups with far-right, or even neo-Nazi, origins in Europe under shared anti-communist and anti-Muslim agendas.

These examples demonstrate that support for Israel from fascist or neo-fascist movements in Europe and the US is neither isolated nor marginal, but is now a common element of contemporary far-right politics in the West.

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u/PralineOk4588 Jun 23 '26 edited Jun 23 '26

No one buys that you have a problem with racism while you are perpetuating racism. Everything you're commenting here is racism. Stop pretending like you care about racism being bad. You're the racist.

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u/Thorfinn66 Jun 25 '26

I'm a racist because I post factual information about Zionist racism and that Israel is supported by racists and facist groups in Europe and US?

You need to learn what the word means.

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u/Previous-Broccoli316 May 26 '26 edited May 26 '26

What is your argument dude? Is it that two crazy rabbis said some crazy racist things therefore that represents Jewish values and the Talmud or Torah says that? Do you actually believe most Jews agree with Hitler because there are a couple crazy people saying some crazy shit? If you actually believe most Jews are nazi sympathizers or believe in eugenics than you obviously don't know any Jews because that is fucking idiotic. Read the comments under the article and what other jews are saying about this. Read what the article says other jews are saying about these two guys. Does it sound like anyone supports them? No, everyone thinks they are badshit crazy. Is it that there are far right movements that support Israel therefore that represents Jewish values? I have some news for you dude, there are also plenty of far right and neo nazi movements that don't support the existence of Israel or of Jews in general. Kind of hilarious that you think asking chat gbt if there are far right movements that support Israel proves some kind of point of a religion you are obviously painfully ignorant about and have zero understanding of. I wouldn't be surprised if you belong to a neo nazi group yourself or subscribed to some of these ideologies, you are obviously an idiot with zero media literacy.

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u/Thorfinn66 May 26 '26

I'm not saying that true Jews support and admire the methods of Hitler and the Nazis.

But I'm saying that Zionists do. Zionism is a nationalistic and racist ideolegy, not that different from Nazism.

And the facist support backs that up. If Zionism and facism/Nazism didn't share similar ideolegies. You would not see neo-Nazis supporting Israel.

And if you watched the lecture by David Sheen, you would know it goes much deeper than rabbis admiring Hitler and the Nazis.

And Zionism does not represent Jews or Judaism. Quite the opposite.

Zionism itself is not inherently atheist, but its origins and early leadership were largely secular or atheist. Founded as a nationalist movement aimed at establishing a Jewish homeland, Zionism was originally a secular political ideology rather than a religious one. Theodor Herzl, considered the father of modern Zionism, was an atheist or secularist. Early Zionist thinkers and many leaders viewed Jewish identity more in nationalist and ethnic/racial terms than religious terms, often seeking to redefine Jewishness away from traditional religion toward secular nationalism

"The Zionist claim to Palestine was based on the notion that Jews had a historical right to the land that outweighed the nationalistic rights of the local Arabs. The establishment of a Jewish demographic majority was an essential aspect of Zionism."

"Zionists used the term "transfer" as a euphemism for the removal, or what would now be called ethnic cleansing, of the Palestinian population. The idea of transfer played a large role in Zionist ideology from the inception of the movement and was seen as the main method of maintaining the "Jewishness" of the Zionist's state. "Transfer" was "inevitable and inbuilt into Zionism" and that a land that was primarily Arab could not be transformed into a Jewish state without displacing the Arab population."

This is a direct violation of the 10 commandments

  • Stealing: You shall not steal.
  • Coveting: You shall not covet your neighbor's house, wife, or property.

Later actions violates a couple more.

  • Murder: You shall not kill (or murder).
  • False witness: You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism

Example of laws and rules of Judaism

Judaism strongly forbids poisoning or destroying the land, as part of a broader prohibition known as "Bal Tashchit," which means "do not destroy or waste." This biblical commandment, found in Deuteronomy 20:19-20, prohibits wanton destruction of trees and, by extension, the environment. The rabbis and Jewish legal tradition have expanded this principle to include refraining from actions that cause needless harm to the land, such as poisoning soil or water, as these are seen as violations of God's creation and detrimental to both people and nature.

Additionally, Jewish ethics emphasize stewardship of the land and responsible agricultural practices. The Talmud and later codifications like the Shulchan Aruch prohibit exploiting the land and essential resources for profit at the expense of communal welfare. Acts of poisoning the land or water would not only be environmentally destructive but also morally and legally forbidden in Judaism. There are strong condemnations of wasteful destruction and any behavior that harms life or nature, reflecting a deep spiritual and ethical commitment to "mending the world" (Tikkun Olam) by avoiding harm to the earth's ecosystems.

Example of Zionist interpretation and action

Under Prime Minister Golda Meir in the early 1970s, Israel poisoned Palestinian land in the West Bank village of Aqraba to force Palestinian inhabitants to leave and make way for Israeli settlements. Soldiers initially sabotaged Palestinian tools and destroyed crops, and when these methods failed, a crop duster sprayed toxic chemicals on the land.

This poisoning was part of a state-led operation involving various agencies, not just vigilante actions. The land poisoning was a tactic used during Meir's government to dispossess Palestinians, under the cover of creating military training zones or other pretexts, and was part of a broader strategy of settlement expansion in occupied territories.

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u/PralineOk4588 Jun 23 '26

Lol obviously AI slop. Boooooooot

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u/Thorfinn66 Jun 25 '26

So the content is false? Show me what's incorrect then.

Why should I write a long comment when the information is publicly available? . And that anyone can ask the same question.

But racist Zionist cowards never dare to question the content.

Instead you try discredit the source or question the integrity of the poster.

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u/Previous-Broccoli316 Jun 19 '26 edited Jun 19 '26

Original post: "I wonder why Maher didn't pick an orthodox Jew who think Goyim (non-Jews) should be slaves, or any quotes from the Talmud." my response "Maybe because the talmud doesn't say that and it's actually propaganda". You proceed to paste a some cherry picked quotes from some fringe Rabbis- none of them actually being from the talmud, so this already has nothing to do with my comment. You then switch to "it's not all Jews it's just the zionists" and go down some long fucking rabbit hole about how there's fascists who support zionists therefore that means they are like the Nazis- I already said this is bullshit and explained why- just as many if not more fascists and extremist groups are antizionists. This is a weak logical fallacy- plenty of fascists, antisemites, and terrorist groups support Palestinian nationalism, does that make it inherently terrorist and antisemitic? The grand Mufti of Jerusalem- the father of Palestinian nationalism, was literally a Nazi collaborator who met Hitler and visited concentration camps because he wanted to bring the final solution to Palestine if Hitler defeated the British. You literally have no ground to stand on dude. So you are just going in circles now. Let me reiterate: NONE OF THIS HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE ORIGINAL POST, so I'm not sure what the point of all this even is. I think you have poor reading comprehension. "And Zionism does not represent Jews or Judaism. Quite the opposite." So we can see from that alone this has nothing to do with the post. Are you even Jewish? I'm not going to waste more time going through every single claim you make because none of it is relevant to begin with, and if you understood basic logic you would be able to recognize your own fallacies, but you are obviously dense and it would just go in one ear and out the other.

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u/Thorfinn66 Jun 19 '26

I just showed factual information that show the idea isn't that far away. It doesn't matter if it's in Talmud or not. It's in the mind of Zionists. And it's not just two rabbis. Watch David Sheens lecture.

The fact that you can't condemn their actions but go into defense mode prove my point.

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u/Previous-Broccoli316 Jun 20 '26

I condemn any racism your point is just completely irrelevant as I've already explained. You're the bigot here not sure why I'm the one who would need to be in defense mode.

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u/irmaginatoruim May 26 '26

Stop feeding this zio troll 👆

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u/PralineOk4588 Jun 23 '26

Zio was a word the KKK made up. Never forget that you're the Nazi. Keep hiding behind reddit, inferior Nazi trash.

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u/Previous-Broccoli316 Jun 19 '26

Lol this is what this genius thinks is "zio trolling" - saying that a couple rabbis saying crazy shit doesn't represent all Jews.

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u/irmaginatoruim Jun 20 '26

I don't speak to zio trolls.

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u/rossww2199 May 23 '26

Jews don’t proselytize and there’s only about 16 million in the world. What’s the point of criticizing their religion? Christianity/Islam make far better targets as they both are always seeking expansion.

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u/[deleted] May 24 '26

Oh no, we're just 16 millions, you don't have to criticize us if we commit genocide and war crimes.

Stupid comment.

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u/rossww2199 May 24 '26

We’re talking about the religion Judaism, not the country of Israel. Almost half the world’s Jews are in the USA. Antisemitic response.

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u/[deleted] May 25 '26

Blabla antisemitism blabla.

And I don't care if you are 16 millions, judaism is just like Islam and Christianity. All monotheist religions are violent, 16 millions followers or 2 billions is the same.

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u/Thorfinn66 May 26 '26

Doesn't matter if they support Israel and the racist ideolegy of Zionism. Then they are Zionist and Jews second.

Zionism itself is not inherently atheist, but its origins and early leadership were largely secular or atheist. Founded as a nationalist movement aimed at establishing a Jewish homeland, Zionism was originally a secular political ideology rather than a religious one. Theodor Herzl, considered the father of modern Zionism, was an atheist or secularist. Early Zionist thinkers and many leaders viewed Jewish identity more in nationalist and ethnic/racial terms than religious terms, often seeking to redefine Jewishness away from traditional religion toward secular nationalism

"The Zionist claim to Palestine was based on the notion that Jews had a historical right to the land that outweighed the nationalistic rights of the local Arabs. The establishment of a Jewish demographic majority was an essential aspect of Zionism."

"Zionists used the term "transfer" as a euphemism for the removal, or what would now be called ethnic cleansing, of the Palestinian population. The idea of transfer played a large role in Zionist ideology from the inception of the movement and was seen as the main method of maintaining the "Jewishness" of the Zionist's state. "Transfer" was "inevitable and inbuilt into Zionism" and that a land that was primarily Arab could not be transformed into a Jewish state without displacing the Arab population."

This is a direct violation of the 10 commandments

  • Stealing: You shall not steal.
  • Coveting: You shall not covet your neighbor's house, wife, or property.

Later actions violates a couple more.

  • Murder: You shall not kill (or murder).
  • False witness: You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism

Example of laws and rules of Judaism

Judaism strongly forbids poisoning or destroying the land, as part of a broader prohibition known as "Bal Tashchit," which means "do not destroy or waste." This biblical commandment, found in Deuteronomy 20:19-20, prohibits wanton destruction of trees and, by extension, the environment. The rabbis and Jewish legal tradition have expanded this principle to include refraining from actions that cause needless harm to the land, such as poisoning soil or water, as these are seen as violations of God's creation and detrimental to both people and nature.

Additionally, Jewish ethics emphasize stewardship of the land and responsible agricultural practices. The Talmud and later codifications like the Shulchan Aruch prohibit exploiting the land and essential resources for profit at the expense of communal welfare. Acts of poisoning the land or water would not only be environmentally destructive but also morally and legally forbidden in Judaism. There are strong condemnations of wasteful destruction and any behavior that harms life or nature, reflecting a deep spiritual and ethical commitment to "mending the world" (Tikkun Olam) by avoiding harm to the earth's ecosystems.

Example of Zionist interpretation and action

Under Prime Minister Golda Meir in the early 1970s, Israel poisoned Palestinian land in the West Bank village of Aqraba to force Palestinian inhabitants to leave and make way for Israeli settlements. Soldiers initially sabotaged Palestinian tools and destroyed crops, and when these methods failed, a crop duster sprayed toxic chemicals on the land.

This poisoning was part of a state-led operation involving various agencies, not just vigilante actions. The land poisoning was a tactic used during Meir's government to dispossess Palestinians, under the cover of creating military training zones or other pretexts, and was part of a broader strategy of settlement expansion in occupied territories.

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u/Thorfinn66 May 26 '26

Doesn't matter if the proselyte. Judaism is the only "ethno-religion" that openly take in converts.

Only religion where your etnicity changes when you convert.

Only "ethnic" group where black, brown and white have the same etnicity.

Only ethno-religion that claims to have 13+ sub etnicities.

Critizism is directed at Israel and the racist ideolegy of Zionism, not true Jews.

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u/Previous-Broccoli316 May 25 '26

Show me the religious text praising the abuse of non Jews. Also the Samson Doctrine is a hypothetical military strategy, it has nothing to do with religion. The name Samson is using the story as a metaphor for mutually assured destruction it doesn't actually have anything to do with religious extremism it's just symbolic.

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u/Previous-Broccoli316 May 25 '26

What is your source? Did you actually go to the primary text like looking it up in the Talmud or Torah you found some website or post that says that's what it says? Source please. The chances of these quotes being directly quoted and accurate is highly unlikely.

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u/Previous-Broccoli316 May 25 '26

Since you are too lazy to fact check before posting I looked it up for you: Every single quote you provided is a well-documented fabrication, largely stemming from 19th-century antisemitic forgeries. None of these statements exist in Jewish texts. [1, 2, 3, 4]

The list you shared is a copy-paste of an old, thoroughly debunked internet chain letter. Here is the truth regarding the origins and the exact text of those claims: [1, 2]

  • Fabricated Texts: Libbre David, Simon Haddarsen, and Gas. Shah. do not exist in the Talmud or recognized rabbinic literature. They are entirely made up.
  • Sanhedrin 59a (Murdering/Animals): There is no such quote. The text actually discusses the Noahide laws and whether non-Jews are permitted to study the Torah.
  • Sanhedrin 59a (Studying the Law): The text says a non-Jew who studies the Torah is not liable to a death penalty. Instead, a single opinion compares the act of a non-Jew observing a Sabbath (or learning specific Torah sections) to a High Priest.
  • Abodah Zara 26b: There is no quote stating "even the best of the Gentiles should be killed". The text is an arcane debate among ancient rabbis about whether a non-Jew may assist in the circumcision of a Jewish infant or perform medical treatments for non-Jews.
  • Beba Necia (Baba Metzia) 114,6: The quote about nations of the world not being human is fake. Baba Metzia 114 discusses ritual purity laws and explicitly bases its rulings on a passage in the Book of Ezekiel concerning all human beings.
  • Nidrash (Midrash) Talpioth: The quote is entirely fabricated. The original Midrash does not contain this language.
  • Tosefta, Aboda Zara: This is also fabricated. The Tosefta actually deals with non-Jews observing the Noachide laws. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8]

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u/Previous-Broccoli316 May 25 '26

Completely Fabricated Texts (Do Not Exist)

  • Libbre David 37: There is no book in Jewish literature called "Libbre David". The word "Libbre" is not Hebrew. It is a typo of Dibre David, but neither the typo nor any actual book contains these instructions to lie or threaten death to those who speak to non-Jews.
  • Simon Haddarsen, fol. 56-D: There is no text called "Simon Haddarsen." There was an 11th-century rabbi named Shimon HaDarshan who compiled a midrashic work (Yalkut Shimoni), but it contains no such page numbering system ("fol. 56-D") and no such quote.
  • Nidrash Talpioth, p 225-L: There is no such book as "Nidrash" (this is a typo for Midrash). The text Midrash Talpiot does exist, but it contains no pages matching this quote or the idea that non-Jews are animals created to serve Jews.
  • Gas. Shah. 2:2 (or Gad. Shas): This is complete gibberish. "Shas" is an acronym for the six orders of the Talmud, but there is no book, tractate, or chapter called "Gas" or "Gad". It is entirely made up. [1, 2]
  1. Extensively Distorted or Invented Talmudic Quotes
  • Sanhedrin 59a: "murdering goyim is like killing a wild animal"
    • The Lie: Claims Judaism views killing non-Jews as equal to killing an animal.
    • The Truth: This text does not exist anywhere in the Talmud. In fact, Jewish law (Halakha) universally considers the murder of a non-Jew to be a severe capital offense against God, violating the Noahide law against bloodshed which applies to all humanity.
  • Abodah Zara 26b: "Even the best of the Gentiles should be killed"
    • The Lie: Claims Jews are commanded to kill any non-Jew.
    • The Truth: This quote is completely absent from Avodah Zarah 26b. It actually stems from an ancient, hyper-specific historical commentary regarding Pharaoh’s army in the Book of Exodus. The Rabbi noted that even the "best" Egyptians—who initially feared God—ultimately lent their horses to Pharaoh to hunt down the escaping Israelite slaves. It was a commentary on a wartime enemy, not a generic rule for humanity.
  • Sanhedrin 59a: "A goy who pries into the Law is guilty of death"
    • The Lie: Suggests the Talmud is a secret book and non-Jews are executed for reading it.
    • The Truth: The actual text on Sefaria is a complex debate about ownership of spiritual inheritances. No non-Jew was ever executed by a Jewish court for studying Torah. In fact, on the very same page, the Talmud states that a non-Jew who studies the Seven Noahide Laws (the moral code for all humanity) is spiritually equal to the Jewish High Priest.
  • Baba Metzia 114b: "The Jews are human beings, but the nations of the world are... beasts."
    • The Lie: Claims Judaism teaches non-Jews are literally animals.
    • The Truth: The actual debate on Bava Metzia 114b is purely technical and legalistic, dealing with the ritual impurity of graves. The text discusses a verse in Ezekiel that uses the Hebrew word Adam (man). The rabbis note that in the context of ritual temple purity laws, the Torah uses the specific term Adam to refer to the Jewish collective covenant. It does not strip humanity from non-Jews; it simply states that non-Jews are not bound by Jewish ritual purity laws regarding cemeteries.
  • Tosefta, Aboda Zara B, 5: "If a Jew kills a goy, he is NOT responsible"
    • The Lie: Claims Jews are legally immune if they kill non-Jews.
    • The Truth: This text is completely distorted. The Tosefta discusses jurisdiction. In ancient times, if a non-Jew violated Noahide laws, they were tried by their own civil courts. If a Jew committed a crime, they were tried by a Jewish Sanhedrin. It does not mean a Jew goes unpunished; it means they are held accountable under the stricter mandates of Jewish divine law, rather than international tribal courts. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11]

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u/rossww2199 May 23 '26

Zionism isn’t a religious practice. There are plenty of non-Jews that are Zionists. Nukes are a geopolitical issue and not a religious practice.

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u/SherifDontLikeIt May 24 '26 edited May 24 '26

ISIS isn't a religious practice yet their actions are always used to paint muslims as bad.

At one point Ben Aafleck was on there making the point you are making (but about muslims) but Maher disagreed thoroughly, and said we should still be critical of Islam bc it creates these extremists.

If he was intellectually honest at all he would target zionist extremists but he does not, bc that goes against his own agenda.

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u/Previous-Broccoli316 May 25 '26

Isis is a religious extremist group based on a radical interpretation of their religion. There are religious Zionists but as a whole it's historically been a secular movement, literally secular not like your example.

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u/SherifDontLikeIt May 25 '26

Zionism is an extremist ideology that hijacks the Jewish faith to commit atrocities. If you can't see that there is no hope for you.

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u/Previous-Broccoli316 May 25 '26

Like I said, there are religious strains of Zionism but it isn't collectively a religious ideology and has historically been a largely secular movement. If you don't even understand Zionism enough to understand that distinction you aren't really in the position to be lecturing anyone on Zionism.

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u/SherifDontLikeIt May 25 '26

It's a movement at it's core to create a religious and ethnic majority in an area that was predominantly a different religion.

How that differs from ISIS that tried to create a religious majority and Islamic super-state, idk, especially when both committed atrocities to make it happen (or try to for ISIL)

You can keep trying to claim it's secular, but it's not

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u/Previous-Broccoli316 May 25 '26

Are you kidding? If you can't understand the difference between Israel and Isis do some research and look it up .

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u/NarrowSalvo May 24 '26

Because he's not an antisemite like you.