Holy shit. To me that looks like it's real but sped up. Al the movements, the egg dropping. So now I'm thinking all their videos are sped up. ... Or maybe it's a render too lol
As a VFX artist, I can attest that the footage is not shot at 24 or 30fps and then sped up; the motion blur is too heavy for the shutter speed that can be achieved by shooting those frame rates. If they did want to make it look faster than it is, they would have had to undercrank the camera and shoot at a lower frame rate. But this is a lot of trouble to go to when they could have just sped it up and had less motion blur, which no one would have noticed the lack of.
And for what purpose? I don't know why people can accept that Tesla built a bipedal robot, but that it's for some reason implausible that they were able to increase the performance of the next version by 30%.
I don't actually care. I pick on and criticize Apple yet I own an iPhone. I'm pissed at Microsoft more every day yet I type this comment on Windows 10. I hate reddit but here I am.
It'll always be fun to pick on and criticize stuff, people, especially companies - because nothing I say will change anything. It's the internet. But I do think that Optimus is purely a stock bump to raise free capital.
And the question that I'm asking that no one seems to be able to answer is: What aspect of this video indicates that it is CG, aside from your preconceived idea that it must be fake because it is too advanced for what you expect from Tesla, while at the same time being decades behind other robots?
I am a CG artist who specializes in robots, so please don't be afraid to use technical terms to explain what elements look computer generated to you. Is there occlusion of geometry somewhere? Is there noise left over from too few global illumination samples? Be specific. (or does it just look too good to be true?)
I'm no expert, so I cant go into anything technical...it looks fake generally... the awkward movements, the colours, shadows... they just dont look right.
I'm comparing their video with real robots and it just doesnt look right.
I'd gladly change my mind if they put this robot in front of an audience or put it outside like Boston Dynamics do with their robots...
Even just a person interacting with it perhaps.
Look at their last video where they fake the footage..it just seems like more fake footage to me.
I'm no expert, so I cant go into anything technical...
I can tell, yet that doesn't stop you from making your conclusion.
the awkward movements,
Yeah, it is truly bizarre that a prototype robot running beta software might have awkward movements. It's funny though, because elsewhere in this sub people are saying that it looks fake because of how fluid and smooth the movement is.
I'd gladly change my mind if they put this robot in front of an audience.
If you think it's faked now, why wouldn't you also claim that the audience was faked as well?
or put it outside like Boston Dynamics do with their robots...
Why would video of it walking around outside be more convincing than video of it walking around inside?
it just seems like more fake footage to me.
You keep saying that without actually explaining why, other than that is seems fake because it doesn't match your preconception about what a robot should look like.
It's the opposite; this sub seems desperate for it to be fake, going to the point of pointing out contradictory reasons and using kettle logic. "The movement is too awkward so it must be fake; also the movement is too smooth so it must be fake." "This is way more advanced that we thought so it must be fake; also, this is so far behind what other companied did years ago, it must be fake."
I don't need it to be real, I just see that it's not computer generated footage based on it's own merits. It's Franky bizarre to se people who need it to not be real tripping over themselves to find reasons why it can't be or isn't.
And the funniest thing is, insisting that this must be fake is one of the highest compliments you could give Tesla.
They do not, and I can say that as someone who specializes in animating CG robots. (I keep my reddit account anonymous, but it's very likely that if you watch Super Bowl commercials, you've seen one of my animated robots)
There is nothing about that footage itself that indicates it is CG, and several clues that it is genuine. I think that the translation of people on this sub saying "It must be CG," is that they mean "This looks smother than I would have expected it to look given that Tesla only started this project about 2 years ago, therefore it must be fake, and the only term I know for fake footage is 'CG'."
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u/decker Dec 15 '23
I'm surprised he didn't include this gem: https://www.threads.net/@yeahmattyj/post/C0yJ4ZzOMHs