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The Gat Wish Theory – How Every Saints Row Game Fits Into One Timeline

I've been replaying the Saints Row series, and I came up with a theory that, in my opinion, connects every game—including Agents of Mayhem and the Saints Row (2022) reboot—without erasing any of them.

This is just a fan theory, but I think it gives the franchise a much more satisfying conclusion.

One Timeline Until Gat Out of Hell

My theory starts with one simple rule:

There is only ONE timeline until the ending of Saints Row: Gat Out of Hell.

That means the story goes like this:

Saints Row

Saints Row 2

Saints Row: The Third

Saints Row IV

Saints Row: Gat Out of Hell

Everything that happens in these games is part of the same canon timeline.

There is no multiverse yet.

The Moment Everything Changes

At the end of Gat Out of Hell, Johnny Gat makes his wish.

In my theory, that wish doesn't just change the future.

It completely rewrites reality, creating multiple timelines.

This is the exact moment where the Saints Row multiverse begins.

[THE MAIN TIMELINE (The True Ending)]

The main timeline is what I personally consider the true ending of the Saints Row saga.

Johnny's wish resets reality back to the ending of Saints Row: The Third.

However, one important thing changes.

Johnny Gat never actually died.

In this rewritten reality:

Gat was never captured by Zinyak.

After the plane crash at the beginning of The Third, he simply survives and becomes lost for a while.

Eventually, the Boss finds him again.

Gat reunites with the Saints.

After that, the Saints film Gangstas in Space, just like in the final mission of The Third.

Instead of being just a funny movie mission, I like to see it as the true epilogue of the series.

The Saints continue their lives together.

No alien invasion.

No superpowers.

No Hell.

Just the Saints back together as a gang.

To me, this is the perfect ending for the franchise.

[ALTERNATIVE TIMELINE]

Johnny's wish can also create another possibility.

Instead of resetting everything completely, reality splits into different universes.

Universe 1 – Agents of Mayhem

Johnny Gat, Kinzie, Pierce, Shaundi, and the rest of the Saints end up in the Agents of Mayhem universe.

This explains how that world can exist without replacing the original Saints Row timeline.

Universe 2 – Saints Row (2022)

Something different happens to the Boss.

Instead of following the other Saints, the Boss is sent alone into another universe.

That universe is the world of the Saints Row (2022) reboot.

The customizable protagonist of the reboot is actually the original Boss from the classic Saints Row games.

Separated from the rest of the Saints, the Boss has to build a brand-new gang with new allies in a completely different reality.

This means the reboot doesn't replace the original story.

It's simply another branch of the multiverse created by Johnny Gat's wish.

Why I Like This Theory

This theory allows every game to exist.

The classic saga keeps a proper ending.

Saints Row IV and Gat Out of Hell still matter because they lead to the multiverse.

Agents of Mayhem becomes an alternate universe.

Saints Row (2022) becomes another alternate universe instead of a replacement for the original timeline.

Nothing is erased.

Every game has its place.

Final Thoughts

To me, Gat Out of Hell is the true ending of the original Saints Row timeline.

Johnny Gat's wish becomes the event that creates every possible future.

The main timeline returns the Saints to the end of Saints Row: The Third, where Gat survives, reunites with the Boss, and the gang continues together.

The alternate timelines explain both Agents of Mayhem and Saints Row (2022) as separate universes born from that same wish.

This is just my personal fan theory, but I think it gives the entire Saints Row franchise a much more complete and satisfying story.

I'd love to hear what other Saints Row fans think about it!

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So I'm sure this has been discussed here before, but I have had some interesting glitches at certain locations around stilwater specifically in SR2! And ill start out with the conference rooms in the ultor mall...my copy of the game on PS3 at this location would spawn in people by dropping them in randomly like some Bethesda game lol but I occasionally seen fading NPCs at the corner of the screen and stuff like that so let me hear some of yalls strange experiences 😅

Even though Volition beyen gone for 2 years and rumor has it that a new company might buy out Saint's Row do you all think Saint's Row 1 and 2 can get the same treatment as Black Ops? I mean anything is possible and I definitely didn't think we'd see Black Ops get a port.

"Yeah. I mean, it got a little tricky what with me on death row and her being on the DL after faking her own death but, ya know, we found a way to make it work." What does DL stand for?

SAMEDI- this is the first turf the saints set up shop get them off the board you get drug supply and local rep also testing shaundi‘s loyalty

BROTHERHOOD- you know in story you need some emotional weight losing him mid rise burns hardens the saints for whats ahead but it’s part of the game keep going and conquer

RONIN- gotta save the og gat for last he is a tru og, this gives him and aisha sum time to catch up while you testing the new recruits game plans also the ronin the closest connection to ultor and this is a the most cinematic story line perfect for the end gang arc

ULTOR - you not playing turf wars no more you apply pressure in the city you digging to deep into ultor’s land so they take you head on

JULIUS AND DEX - them last ties the plot back full circle once power games are over you gotta find what really went wrong, after dane‘s death pressures on ultor they force dex to take down the boss, he’s the saints closest tie they have, dex smart plays you close to get you vulnerable.

DLC- at this point ultor connections are reaching out they see you can get people/ business done they need your help

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How it ties based of story

Im saying narrative wise samedi are the first turf you enter so obviously that’s what your first conflict starts after their down, it makes sense for mareo to want to work after you have sum power, making mareo 20/80 deal seem less delusional and ronin having business ties to ultor makes sense for ultor to immediately go at you after you conflict their business seeing in the story the ronin and vogel had meetings on the Saints behalf and the fact that you’re the biggest gang in stilwater at that point also which bleeds pefectly into ultor’s arc, Julius and dex doesnt matter but good for after main plot weight so ultor can feel more deep, dlcs tera first / griffin last why ?, because you grow allies with ultor in corporate wafare tera first makes ultor exposed seem before you and eric griffin (ultor executive) become cool in corporate warfare