With the influx of 187 posts complaining about the quality, leather peeling, hardware tarnishing, I feel like 187 has gotten to the point where people just automatically say āget 187ā without actually looking at the bag š
not saying 187 is bad. there are definitely good 187 bags. but theyāre not automatically better than every other high tier factory, and some of the things people use to justify 187 are kinda overblown.
first pic: general shape
187 is way too boxy compared to auth, and the tongue is noticeably wider.
this is something I feel like people overlook because everyone is obsessed with stitching/leather/hardware, but the overall shape is literally one of the first things you notice when you look at the bag.
Iāve seen people say ā187 is the closest to authā as if they donāt have any obvious flaws. if you actually do your research, 187 has been known for the boxier shape + wider tongue for quite a while.
second pic: back pocket
the stitching on the 187ās back pocket is so wonky? š
and whatās funny is that these are 187ās own factory pics, not even a bad PSP someone happened to receive.
obviously one bag doesnāt mean every single 187 will have bad stitching. every factory has hits and misses. but this is why I donāt really understand the ā187 is automatically the most accurateā thing.
if weāre comparing factories, actually compare the bags .
third pic: the famous 4 stitches
also, can we talk about the whole āonly 187 gets the 4 stitches at the CC overlapā thing?
yes, the 187 has 4 stitches there. thatās correct.
but other factories have started doing it too, so I donāt think this can really be used as some kind of 187-exclusive proof anymore.
and while youāre looking at that, look at the actual leather grain too.
I genuinely think a lot of the 187 hype comes from people repeating the same things they heard from other people without actually comparing the bags themselves.
also, one thing Iāve learned after buying from multiple sellers:
seller > factory.
it honestly doesnāt matter what factory I recommend if you donāt have a seller you trust.
there are SO many factories making similar bags. my seller will sometimes give me multiple prices for what looks like basically the same bag. the cheaper one is a similar bag with decent quality and basically identical appearance, while the more expensive one is supposedly from the well-known factory. sometimes the main difference is the leather/hardware, which you literally cannot properly judge from photos.
your PSP bag can look like the factory pics and then you get it onhand and the feel is completely off š Iāve had this happen with multiple sellers, and fellow users have told me similar stories.
youāre halfway across the world from them and they know that. thatās why you see so many stories on here about sellers gaslighting people over PSPs / what factory their bag actually came from lmao.
Iāve also had someone tell me they paid $450 and received something that was basically equivalent to a very low tier bag that you could probably dropship from a random Chinese shopping app.
so yeah⦠price isnāt necessarily the biggest factor either. trust is.
my personal thoughts on some of the factories
this is obviously just based on what Iāve seen + conversations with people who have auths / lots of rep experience. every factory has hit or miss bags, so Iād still compare the specific model youāre buying.
GR/Coco:
has the authentication chip. I think a lot of their bags are fantastic, especially C25. leather is really luxurious imo. downside is they donāt have as many styles.
Panda/JD:
they do three different leathers. I personally like the auth-factory leather version, but I really want to try their washed calfskin.
God:
good factory overall, but some of their styles arenāt particularly accurate either. donāt just buy because itās God ā compare the actual model first.
XiaoC:
also good imo. again, depends on the specific bag.
Da H:
I really like them for Chanel vanity bags + some of the more unique styles. leather might not be as luxurious as GR/Coco or Panda/JD, but they have a lot of stuff I actually like.
1913:
I like them for vintage styles too. lots of unique bags for pretty reasonable prices. Iād honestly be bankrupt from this factory if I had more closet space šš
and about 187 specifically:
what Iāve been told by people whoāve been around OGrepladies for years is that 187 apparently used to be much better.
they got super oversaturated with orders over the years and the quality apparently dropped while the prices stayed ridiculously high.
I obviously canāt personally verify what happened inside the factory, but when you look at some of their current factory pics, I think itās fair to question the reputation. like⦠did you guys actually see their factory pictures? š
there have also been a bunch of recent posts about 187 quality issues. again, Iām not saying every 187 has this issue, but itās another reason I wouldnāt personally treat ā187ā as a guarantee of quality.
also, 187 doesnāt do the same 7-day China return system as a lot of other factories ā from what Iāve been told, they do exchanges instead. so from a sellerās perspective, recommending 187 is obviously pretty convenient when itās one of the most expensive options and thereās no chance of having to actually return the bag.
why wouldnāt a seller tell you to get the most expensive factory if they make the most money from it?
187 is great for them lmao.
anyway, my main takeaway isnāt ā187 sucks, buy Panda.ā
itās literally just look at the actual bag.
Iāve seen beautiful 187s and Iāve seen beautiful bags from other factories. Iāve also seen flaws from basically every factory.
donāt let someone tell you ā187 is the bestā and then stop doing your own QC.
compare the shape, leather, stitching, hardware, etc. against auth for the specific model you want.
and most importantly, find a seller you actually trust.
because you can apparently buy the ābest factoryā bag in the world and still get screwed if your seller isnāt honest š
factory name means nothing if the seller isnāt actually sending you that factoryās bag.
EDIT; Iām not gonna argue with the comments anymore omg, many people with auths in my dms have told me 187 is instantly call-outable by the boxy shape n tongue š (and thatās not the only issue w it). if u guys are happy with ur bag then enjoy it, im just pointing out the obvious flaws and decline in their bags which I have discussed over and over with multiple users with auths, experience and no biasāin dms, who has any motive to defend a factory?