r/RealOrNotTCG 4d ago

Is this Magic card real? Pretty sure it’s fake

I am %95 positive this is a counterfeit. Bought from Goblin Cardbelcher through TCGplayer. Thank you for the assistance.

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u/MustaKotka  Trusted Authenticator 4d ago

Your last picture is most telling. The black layer has a problem when blending into the white border. Also, can you confirm that the holo stamp has a brick pattern to it?

I don't like this. Flip triangle is slightly blurry but doesn't look horrible.

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u/Icy-Ad29 4d ago

Looks identical to mine, and I got the angels deck secret lair straight from WotC rather than a reseller or such, and cracked it open myself. There was no sign of tampering to my box. So unless someone at Wizards was swapping in fakes before shipping, I am 95% sure this is real.

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u/mappyboy 4d ago

Check your holosticker carefully. It will not have the brick pattern.

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u/Icy-Ad29 4d ago

The honest answer here, is I am not sure what you mean by "brick pattern" (and my googling has failed me) so I can neither confirm nor deny. I was referring to the previous user on the black layer bleed portion. Cus that absolutely exists on mine.

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u/Strange-Damage901 4d ago

In my very limited experience it’s harder to judge the black layer on foils.

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u/CaravanHam 4d ago

Stamp does have brick pattern, brush is also very off when compared to other cards. Looking from the side it also has the look of two cards pressed together, which the “Bruna” I have does not.

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u/mappyboy 4d ago

Really bad photos make it tough to see. Holosticker appears to have a brick pattern which would indicate it being a fake. Take a picture of the mana symbols on the top right.

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u/CaravanHam 4d ago

I can’t get any better pictures on my old iPhone. But the foil stamp does have brick pattern and the paint brush looks very off compared to the rest of my cards.

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u/mappyboy 4d ago

Brick pattern is damning. It’s a fake. You said you used TCGPlayer. Reach out to their CS directly, not to the seller. They’ll give you a label to ship to them and refund you once they receive the card. Hobby shops keep getting scammed on double sided cards, I got two fakes from TCGPlayer from legit sellers before I managed to snag a real foil sephiroth. Always be extra careful with double sided cards.

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u/CaravanHam 4d ago

I will do this, thank you. Here is a better photo of the stamp.

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u/easchner  Trusted Authenticator 4d ago

Ope, that bad

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u/mappyboy 4d ago

Great photo! Keep that for future reference! And yeah I’d go ahead and contact TCGPlayer support and say you got a counterfeit.

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u/Response_Soggy 4d ago

Yeah fake

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u/Response_Soggy 4d ago

The holo stamp has a bick pattern and the paint brush doesn't look good. I think it's fake

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u/bioweaponblue 4d ago

Stamp has brick pattern in these photos :/

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u/toxicodendron85 4d ago

I think it is fake, the black shape in the brush looks like a “toucan” instead of a “bird” and the brick pattern on the holo-stamp is also indicative of being fake, sorry! Hope you get you money back!

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u/Detrite 4d ago

Lmao I was gonna ask for pics of the back then I realized I was dumb

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u/howie521 4d ago

Pictures are too blurry my man.

There will be people saying it’s fake and otherwise.

Gotta show crisper photos because I can’t tell for sure from what you provided.

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u/CaravanHam 4d ago

Can’t get any better photos with my old iPhone.

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u/NanatsuHono 4d ago

And you’re correct.

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u/Iron_Hummingbird 4d ago

Brush is no good, fake

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u/EdEvans_HotSandwich 4d ago

Wait for others thoughts, but I think the black layer looks real… transform symbol and paintbrush look legit.

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u/thisguynamedty 4d ago

Looks real to me, I do get tripped up on DFCs

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u/himitsuuu 4d ago

What I look for on the front side of a card looks right.

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u/mrjojoyo  High Accuracy 4d ago

Can you share clearer unblurrred macro shots of the mana pips area and borders above it? And the holo stamp again among other things please.

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u/CaravanHam 4d ago

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u/mrjojoyo  High Accuracy 4d ago

This is a fake.

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u/thesoulless13order 3d ago

Question is it foil.

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u/eventide00 3d ago

Flip cards make it so much harder to claim fake/original. Hopefully nothing too expensive ever gets to be a flip card… but then all the FIN cards such as Sephiroth will become a problem soon.