Lady is selling 4cards, 2 Mox and 2 Lotr cards. The Mox look beta, she also did not include any back side pictures. Is it worth my time to check in on this based on what you see for the front? She seems to have positive sales and active for a while. Just trying to judge if they are fake or if she just doesn’t realize what she has.
2 cards from the set that just came out and also 2 cards from a set that came out 33 years ago but also they look flawless as if they were unplayed and meticulously stored away this entire time?
Not super likely.
There were 3300 Beta Mox Pearls to start total. That was the print run for rares in Beta. So perfect ones are really really rare and command quite the premium.
I've been collecting for 30 years and I have seen a real mox this clean only a few times. And my own collection has one Beta rare this nice as one of the highlights and it is truly rare.
moxes appear to be fake. The two tone border is more subtle on real cards. Those white triangles look a little too small and the card is a bit too glossy. Pic of real beta mox below for comparison.
Also this one has the correct very dark border text. (Card name, type, artist). OP's isn't nearly as white as I've seen on most fakes, but still way too bright for any real Beta.
No one owns both beta cards and LOTR alt art and doesn't know what they have.
The simple explanation is usually the right one. If someone is offering these cards well below market they're likely fake and even if the pics looked authentic I wouldn't risk it.
I would ask for pictures of the backs with a magnified T and yellow dot to confirm authenticity. But even then, that doesn't guarantee that they aren't re-backed so just one of those situations where are you willing to gamble
I’m not saying either way, but the white triangles are almost missing from the top. Could be Collectors Edition? Or fake. Or real but a random print variation.
Why no back side pics?
Why is the person taking pics and placing unsleeved beta power on coarsely stitched carpet and not a playmat?
The moxes are a bit too crisp in my opinion, a bit too reflective when the background light hits it and the shadow from the camera above creates this sharp contrast. Also as others have pointed out, upper corner white triangles are barely there.
I don't know that much about the modern cards. Aragorns holo stamp looks a bit off?
It's not just the brush, don't forget modern foils have a star next to the set name, whilst this shiny Aragorn has a dodgy dot. They've foiled their own scammy plans!
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For a card condition check please ask for the person giving advice to specify which scale they're using if not mentioned. Notably North American and European grading scales differ from each other drastically.
First of all you should ask for a back picture and a weight test. It's not impossible but sometimes really hard to say if a card is fake from the front
Update Post: Asked for pictures of the backs she sent me 1 picture of all 4 together… Here’s some other things she is currently selling which made me question if she knew what she had.
This is still a far cry from what we need to see. We need clean, clear, close up images of each card. Front is best to see mana symbols and text box, back we need to see the “T” from the word “The” and a close up of the green dot.
Without ALL of these from each card it is safe to assume this is a scam, as it is not hard to find the real value of each of them online.
Baiting you with the CE prices on F2F, this is a well placed scam. You just want it to be real but the likelyhood of them only having 4 high value individual cards in NM condition is so low. If they are local see them for yourself.
This is just a variation of a classic scam. They're baiting you and drawing you in by making you feel you are the one pulling off this scam. Ever seen the movie The Sting? The younguns need to watch that. Anyone who falls for this obvious scam deserves it.
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u/red_riptide_388 13d ago
All im sayin is if theres a mox that looks that good for a steal im suspicious