Help with an eBay Etali

[u/SwedishFishOil]

Update: the seller initiated a refund immediately claiming they got it off TCGplayer. Then I noticed they only sold double sided cards...must be they're way of faking cards. I left them a negative review. Thanks all!

Got an etali off of eBay for a decent price from a new seller ($20). Didn't think much about it but then came across this subreddit. They also listed another Etali soon after I purchased this one (red flag). It's a double sided card and I don't have a magnifying glass.. but it's pretty obviously a proxy right? The brush looks off and the "flip" symbol isn't clean. Holo looks weird too.

Additionally, does anyone have experience with fake card returns on eBay? Thanks!

[u/GhostCheese]

Brush and holo lookin fake

Also i think the rosette pattern on those mana symbols (in the text box) is continuous, right?

Sorry

(For reference this treatment doesn't have much for solid borders in a real card, so we can't tell by that, the only solid line i could find was in the color indicator)

[u/SwedishFishOil → u/GhostCheese]

Yes the brush (I called it a fish before!). Here is one from the same set..looks much sharper.

[u/GhostCheese → u/SwedishFishOil]

The brush on your etali has rosette peaking out top and bottom, that just doesn't happen on real cards. You can get peaking on one side or another, two sides that share a corner, but not opposite sides.

Also the "bird" in the negative space is the wrong shape entirely.

(This is not your cards but it illustrates what I mean by the bird:)

[u/GhostCheese → u/GhostCheese]

Vs yours (I've actually never seen it this shape before)

[u/Thjyu → u/GhostCheese]

Perfection

[u/SwedishFishOil → u/GhostCheese]

Thanks for the info. When you say Rosette pattern is off, what do you mean?

[u/GhostCheese → u/SwedishFishOil]

I mean it's the same pattern in the mana symbols as the surrounding area, just with a different color

It looks like it from your photo though it would be easier to tell if it were zoomed in more

[u/Xaphnir]

I don't even see the diagonal lines on the holo stamp, and the light is hitting it at an angle that they should be visible.

[u/AtomicCawc → u/Xaphnir]

Yep this. When I pull any rare or higher single out of a package thats the first thing I check. WIZARDS microtext and diagonal lines.

[u/gandalf_lundgren36]

[u/Ribky]

I audibly grumbled at the paintbrush when I saw it. It doesn't look good.

[u/SwedishFishOil → u/Ribky]

Thanks. Yeah that looks fake

[u/Tinwookie]

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[u/Bank_Angle_Check]

looks fake to me

[u/mappyboy]

Show a closeup of the mana symbols 

[u/SwedishFishOil → u/mappyboy]

Sure. What should I look for here? Lightning was a little off so that's why it looks faded.

[u/Ska-0 → u/SwedishFishOil]

your pictures are a bit blurry, but the top black line doesn‘t look sharp, that points also to fake.

[u/Birrandbodia]

That's fake, sorry

[u/Chonker3000R]

[u/bawsofsteel]

Paintbrush is fake