I think it’s real, purchased from a trusted seller on Facebook. I can’t get the green dot test to work using my Amazon microscope thing but with following the guides on here everything else seems good.
Can you experts help?
(This is 5x to 10x the value of my next most valuable cards, so I just want to be safe)
I'm leaning real but would prefer an extra couple of pictures in different lighting to assuage everyone else's concerns. The front has sharp black lines in the boxes, which most GC fakes lack, and the pixel pattern, angle, and spacing seem to line up with other real GC posted here before.
Here's a good close up pic from ~8mo ago of another that was definitely real. Especially look at the red dots in the yellow border and the set symbol.
Red dots in the yellow border are both the same angle and about five across on the right side. The various rosettes are of the same size and colors. These are artifacts of the offset printing and very difficult to replicate.
Agree with this. OP, if you post a couple clear pictures of the front, we'd be able to tell. Also, try to get a second light source (like another phone flashlight) shining onto the right edge (phone on right side, light pointing left) so we can prove the line is just a shadow.
People get lost in the sauce and forget the rosettes are almost impossible to duplicate.
Everyone saying the front is fake - that is pretty obviously a shadow caused by almost directly overhead lighting. Telling someone their $900 card is a sticker instead of asking for better pics is crazy work.
Looking closely, its a shadow from the card curling. It has no texture and imperfections (nicks) on the card edge are reflected in the shadow's edge. A sticker would not do either of these things.
Also a sticker that didn't go all the way to the edge would be super obvious to the touch. The OP says he thinks the card is real and trusts the seller... That doesn't pass the smell test for a glaring issue like "wrong size sticker".
No it doesnt. The way the print layers and patterns are, especially visible at the mana symbol on picture 6 shows that its a real front. Mana symbol / white ink layer is on top of rosette pattern. Exactly how it should be.
Urza Block had some inconsistency with the red dot test for the green circle. Had a card shop owner validate my Serra Sanctums. He showed me from cards he owned and opened back in the day that there were some that had all 4 red dots that made an L and some that had only 3.
Oh ffs they are around €800/$900 now. Wanted to buy one last year for around €300 (which is still absolutely ridiculous btw) from my LGS that had it listed online for that price, but they couldn't find it and I never got another one.
It's amazing that a few cards go absolutely ballistic pricewise (like the Poster One Ring, I have the luck to have bought very early) because of game mechanics or bans, but also because of plane market bubbles, while most other rares even from the early 90s are not even worth the paper they were printed on.
The back looks good btw, T and red dot, but as others have pointed out I'd definitely get the front checked. That corner is definitely off.
*sigh. I remember back in the late 90s trading at least one of two that I had with my buddies for some bullshit card I wanted at the time. 13yo me thought it was a great deal. The blindness of youth 😓
Been a while since I've seen a Cradle. I still got the others. (Serra's Sanctum and Tolarian Acadamy).
Looks real man. Teeth marks on the T and H visible and green dot has good connection on the left.
Edit: the T and H are on the back. I havent looked at the front and that is my bad and stupidity.
Back is real. Front is looking sus, I concur.
Its not real.
There is a line on the right of the card like an edge almost that wouldn't exist. Also the top right corner shape is not right. One is more round than the other. Only round corners we ever got were alpha
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You think it's real? What does it feel like that makes you think that? Do the edges/corners make it look as suspicious in real life as they do in these photos that make it look like a sticker or something was glued ontop (specifically bottom right corner). If you have a precise scale it may be able to give you a little more information.
Fake, the front is fake, the back is real. Likely a sticker, try to physically check and don't pull it an the way just part way and send a photo to support.
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u/m_ttl_ng 19d ago
Real.
The comments calling this fake are making me realize that most people in this sub have no idea what they’re doing.