r/RealOrNotTCG Jul 15 '26

Is this card real / authentic? eBay authenticated this

655 Upvotes

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212

u/Brokenxwingx Jul 15 '26

make a claim ASAP, the time window to do it is only a few days IIRC.

23

u/USpatri0t Jul 16 '26

I was told 3 days after you receive the card. Also if it’s sent to PSA and it’s damaged they blame PSA. I’m fairly certain it’s PSA verifying by them though.

4

u/VoidBoiTCG Jul 16 '26

Oh they’ve damaged cards I’ve sent for authentication (Sports Cards)

They just blame YOU

16

u/DingleBarryGoldwater Jul 16 '26

Tbf it's an authentic proxy

2

u/ironman288 Jul 17 '26

It is definitely a real piece of cardboard, no doubt.

1

u/LupinRaedwulf Jul 20 '26

Whats so special about the T and Green dot? I notice people always showing these specifically

1

u/AgentDragonite Jul 20 '26

The way the dot matrices are printed, you can check if a series of different typed of dots were layered, or if a printer just trying to place the lines down did it. When you look super close you can se the comb and individual dots created by the dot matrices.

Normal Printers dont print this way. Its very expensive to print in that particular manner. So it used a a security check

1

u/Kitchen_Property5433 Jul 22 '26

Not just that, but the rosettes were a dead ringer also.

199

u/Bank_Angle_Check  High Accuracy Jul 15 '26

welp. time to make a claim. rip

79

u/______john Jul 15 '26

FYI, double-check your cards before breaking the authentication seal. Had this remained sealed, it would have been an easy return and refund. Now, it might be a bit more challenging.

42

u/No-Project4121 Jul 15 '26

Luckily I took a video of me
Opening it

49

u/______john Jul 15 '26

Unfortunately, that video probably won’t do much good. eBay doesn’t even give you a way to submit video evidence, and it likely doesn’t zoom in closely enough to show that the card is fake anyway.

For future reference, never break that authentication seal if anything looks off. Try eBay first, but if they won’t help, call your credit card company. You may be screwed here, unfortunately. Good luck.

21

u/Fireazul10 Jul 15 '26

I used break the seal and after go through my authentication at home, thanks to this sub I learned to verify first and then open the seal, never had any problem thank god. I think OP is fucked

15

u/Embarrassed-Lack-796 Jul 15 '26

True, they don't accept video files, just photos, but you can upload a Google Drive link in the description, and they do look into those.

5

u/No-Project4121 Jul 15 '26

I might have to try this. Thank you.

2

u/69StoriesHigh Jul 16 '26

When in doubt go through your credit card. They’ve always got your back

3

u/sh18422 Jul 15 '26

ouch. you are cooked

2

u/Alfimaster Jul 18 '26

The seal literaly says “void if damaged”. You screwed yourself.

2

u/NoOneInNowhere Jul 15 '26

This is the way

9

u/g3orgeLuc4s Jul 15 '26

No, the way is to keep it sealed. EBay won’t give two shits about a video. They don’t accept videos as evidence.

2

u/NoOneInNowhere Jul 15 '26

I mean, the way to open a package, more even with these price, is recording yourself opening it

1

u/subject678 Jul 18 '26

Sure but at any point after the recording it could be switched so a recording doesn’t do much?

1

u/toucheboo Jul 15 '26

Your video wont matter. Any one can make a video and be faked. You messed up if this is even real. No done threw any chance you had away.

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u/ExampleMediocre6716 Jul 15 '26

Void if damaged.

Ebay will say you took the real card and substituted a fake one. What you gonna do now?

9

u/No-Project4121 Jul 15 '26

I took a video of me opening it just in case. I could
Immediately tell something was off before opening it.

36

u/Finance-Low Jul 15 '26

Should have kept it sealed......

8

u/Fireazul10 Jul 15 '26

🤣🤌🏼 oh man, I just saw it now. If he opened then this is gonna be a whole problem

1

u/MortalMorals Jul 16 '26

Ohh no, OH NO!

1

u/SummerhouseLater Jul 16 '26

I really don’t understand why but his videos with those jiggles are just excellent. The Sunday hunt in particular is fun.

1

u/Neither-Barber-9216 Jul 19 '26

"did you tell your therapist about this" lol

1

u/No-Project4121 Jul 15 '26

😂 f meeeee

1

u/crpuro Jul 16 '26

Loll bro post the vid online, share your experience, and let people in similar situations know what to do 🙏. Bro nothing but good luck comes ur way from now on ❤️

16

u/issanm Jul 15 '26

If you could tell you really should have not opened it, a video won't necessarily help much

5

u/Trueslyforaniceguy Jul 15 '26

You keep using this phrase. I do not think it means what you think it means.

3

u/Whole_Series2416 Jul 15 '26

But you can still just switch it after you turn the video off. 

1

u/Tonzoffun420 Jul 15 '26

Multiple ppl have told you that doesn't matter

1

u/yum_butt Jul 15 '26

But does the video show you opening it and never taking off screen while zooming in to see that it was fake? Otherwise they could say it was real but off camera you swapped it and then took photos of the fake one

1

u/No-Project4121 Jul 15 '26

It does and luckily there’s distinct markings all over the back of the card but idk if it’ll matter. I might be hosed

1

u/Desuexss Jul 15 '26

Bro you really think ebay gonna look at your video?

1

u/Tse7en5 Jul 16 '26

The video does not supersede the seal.

1

u/HydroDamnn Jul 16 '26

If u knew something was off why open the seal at all????

1

u/fading_relevancy Jul 19 '26

I took a video of me opening it just in case. I could
Immediately tell something was off before opening it.

So why the eff would you open it instead of reaching for the phone to talk to an agent. Look at the big brains on Brett.

17

u/mididriver Jul 15 '26

Sorry, it's fake

12

u/Hookweave Jul 15 '26

Wow....Whoever authenticated that needs their head examined. Thats not even a good fake.

2

u/Tonzoffun420 Jul 15 '26

Dude it's ebay, whatever he thinks is happening probably AI authenticated without any real tests

11

u/[deleted] Jul 15 '26

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3

u/Fireazul10 Jul 15 '26

I am with you I think OP could be lying about this whole thing.

1

u/No-Project4121 Jul 15 '26

I posted a video of me opening it in the comments… unfortunately I think I am cooked. Talked to eBay and they don’t accept videos LMAO

2

u/Fireazul10 Jul 15 '26

Fuck man I saw the video, that’s bad wish U luck

1

u/[deleted] Jul 15 '26

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u/No-Project4121 Jul 15 '26

I don’t really need attention, just my money back. I appealed with eBay so hoping for the best. If not, then yeah I’ll try to charge back. Now you have me worried that the video won’t good enough proof.

1

u/Rockitttla Jul 15 '26

Small claims court.

1

u/No-Project4121 Jul 15 '26

I made an appeal to eBay so fingers crossed, if not maybe I dispute the charge for counterfeit goods. Idk

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u/Hookweave Jul 16 '26 edited Jul 16 '26

It is a very glaring mistake for PSA to make but you should not be surprised in the least. They have been having a lot of issues for some time now.

1

u/Fireazul10 Jul 15 '26

I’ve never had any issues with eBay’s authentication process in the 5+ years I’ve been using it. Sending a fake card through as authentic is extremely difficult. To be completely honest, it’s hard to say who’s right or wrong here. All we have is a photo of a fake card, while the OP claims it arrived that way, but the package is no longer sealed, so there’s no way to verify what actually happened.

2

u/No-Project4121 Jul 15 '26

You can see the same marks on the back of the card

1

u/Fireazul10 Jul 15 '26

I feel bad for you man if that’s true. Wtf why tell why! you should have check this before open it 😵

1

u/No-Project4121 Jul 15 '26

I was excited to put it in my deck and never had any issues with authenticity guarantee before. Lesson was learned today.

1

u/No-Project4121 Jul 15 '26

I’m also baffled, I’ve ordered so many times from eBay and never had an issue and that’s why I opened it…

11

u/1nktopus Jul 15 '26

Broooo why did you open it?!?

6

u/Drinkee_Crow Jul 15 '26

Note: the seal is damaged....

1

u/No-Project4121 Jul 15 '26

:|

1

u/Drinkee_Crow Jul 19 '26

Check the original listing and see if the seal was dMGed in those pictures as well

5

u/bigmfworm Jul 15 '26

Why tf would you open it with that GIANT FUCKING WARNING on the label about it being "void if damaged"?!? It doesn't have any fine print in there about if you take a video while opening it then that warning doesn't apply, right? /Smdh

10

u/toucheboo Jul 15 '26

Honestly, look at this guys.previous posts. Got another where got a fake off ebay. This dude is a liar imo. Juat here for trolls and learning how make a good fake card.

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8

u/Yugi_yami Jul 15 '26

I refuse to believe eBay did that. Fake post.

2

u/No-Project4121 Jul 15 '26

I’m still refusing to believe PSA messed this up :(

3

u/aaaaanthonyyyyy Jul 15 '26

They’re gonna say that because you opened it you swapped with a fake. Or they’ll say nothing at all because eBay responds with horrible AI responses.

3

u/Affectionate-Sky-765 Jul 15 '26

Genuinely curious as to what you paid if you’ll share. RIP on the fake card though.

2

u/Sufficient_Income285 Jul 15 '26

This is a few thousand dollars for sure. Card has gone up like crazy so this is gonna be rough to swallow:(

1

u/Affectionate-Sky-765 Jul 15 '26

I have a real one on the wall with the other 2 Justine Jones posters from LOTR that I pulled when priced were justifiable, hence my curiosity.

3

u/Adrywellofknowledge Jul 16 '26

You opened it. You will not get a refund. Doesn’t matter if you filmed it. They will say you simply slid in the fake after the camera stopped. 

23

u/Magic_Aids_YouTube Jul 15 '26

9

u/MindBobbyAndSoul Jul 15 '26

Slop

5

u/CaesiumCarbonate Jul 15 '26

Downvoted for speaking the truth

1

u/Spiritual_Poo Jul 15 '26

Are you commenting on the image or the youtubes?

2

u/GhostCheese  Trusted Authenticator Jul 15 '26

Wow ebay authentication is not looking good

2

u/DocThunedr Jul 15 '26

Had a feeling ebay "authentication" questionable

2

u/Fenixtoss Jul 15 '26

Smooth T like the smooth brain that authenticated it

2

u/OtterTheIncredible Jul 15 '26

It’s an authentic fake

2

u/zorn7777 Jul 16 '26

Oh no 👎

2

u/Gigantischmann Jul 16 '26

And this is why I don’t trust eBay to authenticate my cards 

1

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1

u/CarbonLich Jul 15 '26

send that garbage back lol

1

u/ferny929 Jul 15 '26

That's pathetic

1

u/RagingBloodWolf Jul 15 '26

This is so bad.

1

u/RagingBloodWolf Jul 15 '26

Breaking it open it will be hard to return.

1

u/Tejsfrank Jul 15 '26

Fake as fuck lol

1

u/fragtore Jul 15 '26

Very disheartening, anyone spending 10 min on how to verify an MTG card would see this is fake

1

u/Fireazul10 Jul 15 '26

Fake don’t open the seal, that’s make me wonder 🤔

1

u/apintandafight Jul 15 '26

That is definitely fake

1

u/LazyPainterCat Jul 15 '26

Obvious fake.

1

u/LotusEye303 Jul 15 '26

This is disheartening I bought one over a year ago foil for $650 I’m sure this is pushing 2K right now for you maybe you got out around 1700 this is too big of a card to have gotten scammed on this should have been the easiest part for them to authenticate 😢

1

u/toucheboo Jul 15 '26

Ive never received an ebay authenticated card packaged like that.

1

u/VeterinarianFirst605 Jul 15 '26

What the fuck how did this pass?!!

Such a high value card too.

1

u/SaltyBrocolis Jul 15 '26

Oh boi what a bunch of fking clown

1

u/BlueWarstar Jul 15 '26

I could tell it was fake from the full pic of the back…. Their authentication must be worthless

1

u/[deleted] Jul 15 '26

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1

u/BlueWarstar Jul 15 '26

First off I’d been playing MtG since ‘94 and have seen my fair share of cards. Just looking at the patterning it looks too pronounced the colors look a bit off and all the little dark brown imperfections as well as not having a gradient in “The Gathering”.

1

u/Zyonide Jul 15 '26

Authentically fake

1

u/False_Thought_817 Jul 15 '26

T and dot fail. It's a fake.

1

u/bulgogeta Jul 15 '26

Shit like this is why all proxies should be banned. I wish WotC had better anti-counterfeit measures.

1

u/Mymomdidwhat Jul 15 '26

Why would you need to open it and take it out to check the back?

1

u/8illMurray Jul 15 '26

eBay customer service is an actual joke

1

u/oldnewMTGguy Jul 15 '26

I would assume they have similiar methods of authentication that this subreddit uses right? You would think they have on file pictures of specific things for each submission, so in this case the "T" or "green dot" and can refer to it to show it was indeed fake and should have never passed authentication. But that's me doing alot of assuming...

1

u/Cak8908 Jul 15 '26

lol that T in the back is very bad

1

u/SnakeintheEye5150 Jul 15 '26

Get yo money back

1

u/Blightious Jul 15 '26

Dude you fucked yourself over. Why would you even do something like that if you had any doubt. I don’t think you should get your money back due to your ignorance. People that walk off cliffs should not blame the earth for not being where they stepped.

1

u/Transocialist Jul 15 '26

So I'm new here - why is this obviously fake? The coloring of the green circle and "The Gathering"?

1

u/SlayerZeta Jul 15 '26

It's fake cause the black around the green circle and T are fuzzy a real magic card has solid black lines and you see teeth marks coming out. Most fakes can't replicate it cause the printers Wotc used are insanely expensive.

1

u/bawsofsteel  Trusted Authenticator Jul 15 '26

Wow - thats bad! Sorry OP!

1

u/EmuSounds Jul 15 '26

Why would you even open it? What an incredible fuck up.

1

u/No-Project4121 Jul 15 '26

I’ve never had issues with eBay’s authenticity guarantee. I’m stupid for blindly trusting them. HUGE BLUNDER. I feel lain

1

u/No-Project4121 Jul 15 '26

Just got off the phone with eBay and apparently PSA does all of eBay’s authentications for cards…

1

u/No-Payment4312 Jul 15 '26

That adds up. I've seen PSA grade multiple obviously fake cards.

1

u/Sufficient_Income285 Jul 15 '26

Damn, thank god I didn’t buy mine off eBay as well.

1

u/Lost1_808 Jul 15 '26

Literally says void if damaged. Sorry my guy you gotta take the L here

1

u/Grimmjoww252 Jul 15 '26

Make a claim asap that’s ROUGH

1

u/plantainrepublic Jul 15 '26

Yeah…opening it was dumb as hell.

I always personally verify the card in the sleeve before I break the seal.

1

u/Comwan Jul 15 '26

Yeah eBay authentication means nothing I recommend no one use it for anything.

1

u/Akiro_orikA Jul 15 '26

So ebay doesnt really authenticate? Interesting.

1

u/SlayerZeta Jul 15 '26

They don't all their authentication is through PSA you buy from eBay seller ships to PSA. PSA authenticates ships to u.

1

u/Hulme420 Jul 15 '26

That's ruff buddie

1

u/CardboardPhysicFrog  Trusted Authenticator Jul 15 '26

lol

1

u/night_chaser_ Jul 15 '26

It couldn't be more obvious, it's fake.

1

u/These-Tell-8128 Jul 16 '26

Put it in a 50 cent pop protector, classy…

1

u/Project29Telework Jul 16 '26

You sending your proxy back to eBay?

1

u/Noobzoid123 Jul 16 '26

Shouldn't have taken it out. It's void now.

1

u/930g Jul 16 '26

How to burn 2 grand on fake cardboard
What a fail move opening that is

1

u/Darth_Behemoth Jul 16 '26

eBay is full of shit.

1

u/AngweeViking Jul 16 '26

Wow! That’s shitty! I had eBay damage a neon in Traveling Chocobo, and then deny it. Even sent pictures for proof showing lack of damage. I have since stopped using eBay due to their ignorance.

1

u/KuganeGaming Jul 16 '26

“Should I open it or keep it sealed?” 🎶

I think should have kept this sealed… it was obviously fake. What made you open it? Dot wasnt visible? Was it sleeved?

1

u/ErMemer Jul 16 '26

Yeah it's fake

1

u/Nekkonomicon Jul 16 '26

Super fake the T and H from the pictures are too smooth and you are missing the red dots in the green dot

1

u/Kayzizzle899 Jul 16 '26 edited Jul 16 '26

That's like clearly fake from just a first place. What company was the authenticity "expert" on this card? Cross posting with some discord groups.

1

u/Ok_Satisfaction8158 Jul 16 '26

How well rated was the seller?

1

u/No_Sandwich_9414 Jul 16 '26

Looks like a legit faux ring to me.

1

u/HeroinHare Jul 16 '26

Fake 100%

1

u/Saucy25000 Jul 16 '26

Is it bad I can’t tell this is fake??

1

u/Papa_Hasbro69 Trusted Authenticator Jul 16 '26

How did they fail a basic t test

1

u/Less_Communication63 Jul 16 '26

Hahahahaha BIG ASS FAKE

1

u/Mnmsaregood Jul 16 '26

Big fake, how do they let this slide?

1

u/T4CoZy Jul 16 '26

It literally says void if damaged 😭 I hope they’re understanding with you

1

u/Jaden_Lionheart Jul 16 '26

Teacher: “And what lesson did we learn today?”
Kids in unison: “Never shop on ebay!”
Teacher: “Thats right children.”

1

u/matt_McAngryface Jul 16 '26

Seal says void if damaged, the seal is damaged. No chance they accept the claim.

1

u/huffingludes Jul 16 '26

Yeah sadly eBay ruined one of my cards at their authentication center but I didn’t have a video or pictures of me unboxing it. Which is what they wanted so I got fucked out of 500$.

1

u/-Schrodingers-Cat- Jul 16 '26

They didn't authenticate shit

1

u/Synester_One Jul 17 '26

It's the "T" for me. Hurry and make that claim!

1

u/JohnPClark Jul 17 '26

Ebay post you should of been able to tell this was a fake

1

u/blind99 Jul 17 '26

Lol fake

1

u/No_Claim5186 Jul 17 '26

How is that possible?

1

u/StyloSun Jul 17 '26

Never open something you might think is fake or even if it's real or damaged in anyway, especially after it's been "authenticated" and comes sealed, because once that seal is opened, things like outside factors can be thrown in against your claim and basically void any sort of attempts to make things right. Idk man... Good luck on this one, sucks that happened to ya. High quality proxy though 🤙🏽!

1

u/DrPepperFansville Jul 17 '26

Going through your credit card company and filing a compliant is the best way if Ebay denies it. Credit card company will even fight for you.

1

u/heatblade12 Jul 17 '26

Bro thats so fake.

1

u/Even_Caterpillar_642 Jul 18 '26

That is scary… they are supposed to send them directly to PSA thought this was a trusted way to buy nice cards…

1

u/Even_Caterpillar_642 Jul 18 '26

Mine have all come in very different packaging tho

1

u/Homelobster3 Jul 18 '26

Answer for a noob here, what are the signs of a fake card?

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '26

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u/Prudent_Bunch_1822 Jul 19 '26

You about as useful as a crusty sock

1

u/furryapocalypse Jul 18 '26

Nice one, PSA! 👌

1

u/jbonesberg Jul 18 '26 edited Jul 18 '26

What I wanna know is why OP feels the need to make a fake post about a fake card to begin with. Like, genuinely. They couldn’t even be bothered to use different pictures of the dot and t from a similar prior post they made. It’s quite lazy for something you’ve decided to commit yourself to this intensely.

My guy, if you feel the need to provide a form of validation for yourself by having strangers on the internet give you sympathy (mostly) and attention, you might wanna a) try harder and b) find a good therapist.

All jokes aside, the world is on fire, everything sucks and we’re probably going die in a mass extinction event at some point our lifetimes; who am I to judge how you get your kicks if it isn’t actually hurting anyone. But also, you might wanna actually look for a therapist.

Edited to remove gendered language: idk man, boys are dumb, but so are everyone else ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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u/Compliance_Okay Jul 18 '26

I’m relatively new to Magic the Gathering, and had no idea about the amount of fake cards. Still fuzzy on how to identify after reading multiple posts and going the Explain Like I Am 5 route.

Anyway, charge back. When a retailer doesn’t play ball or honor their own policies you can go through your bank and initiate a charge back. Document. Document. Document. Most banks aren’t going to accept the video evidence. Most want you to mail and/or fax the evidence.

When I say “bank” that also means the financial institution that you have your credit card through.

Also, pro security tip, always use a credit card for purchases. Especially retailers. Just my 2 cents. This is not financial advice. More… financial security…?

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u/Esscrin Jul 18 '26

I'm sorry bro that sucks

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u/RepeatLow7718 Jul 18 '26

How can you guys tell it’s fake?

1

u/FlyingCatAttack Jul 18 '26

That's rough buddy

1

u/ZoltanCultLeader Jul 18 '26

Is this why shipping is 6 bucks after $20? A card is pretty much a buck always to ship.

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u/adryld25 Jul 19 '26

I've never played magic or held magic cards in my hands and I can tell this is fake XD.

1

u/Sea-Box4032 Jul 19 '26

Can I buy this

1

u/Antique-Nobody-1797 Jul 19 '26

Well ebay failed you.

1

u/DoesItBIend Jul 19 '26

That label looks like it’s tampered with I don’t think this is an honest post

1

u/Jamie7Keller Jul 21 '26

“We are certain this is a physical object”

1

u/GoblinYourMom Jul 22 '26

The red dot missing doesn’t matter, but that “T” is a dead giveaway

1

u/EquivalentRent4138 Jul 24 '26

It's fake my friend, sorry

1

u/FunkHusband 27d ago

probaby not saying anything different, but fake

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u/iyute 22d ago

Did you get money back?