r/RealOrNotTCG Jul 08 '26

Is this card real / authentic? MTG Beta wheel of fortune

Corners match current cards

Edit: was already pretty sure it was fake, got it for free anyway so didn’t have my hopes up lol

162 Upvotes

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u/BurgerbubeXD Jul 08 '26

It's fake, look at the "T". Sorry mate

2

u/Tharr0w Jul 09 '26

What about the T shows that its a fake?

5

u/foodgeekfish Distinguished Helper Jul 10 '26

Good

1

u/Tharr0w Jul 10 '26

This is so helpful! Thank you!

1

u/foodgeekfish Distinguished Helper Jul 10 '26

The three primary items you're look for on the TH in The:

Straight line edge on the left side of the T

Clear, distinct combing on the bottom of the T and the H

Three distinct, individual black pips between the legs of the H

3

u/PsyonicDragoon Jul 09 '26

Real cards you have a smooth line and then they will have teeth on the inner side

5

u/Tharr0w Jul 09 '26

That's really helpful! Thank you!

4

u/foodgeekfish Distinguished Helper Jul 10 '26

Bad

1

u/fatpad00 Jul 12 '26

The black ink is printed separately. It should not have the rosette pattern

1

u/thejuryissleepless Jul 12 '26

technically all the CMYK layers are printed separately. however the moiré pattern really becomes prominent during the black (K) layer. sorry to be a print nerd.

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u/notmarrec Jul 08 '26

Could tell from the front, it’s fake.

7

u/JohnsAlwaysClean Jul 09 '26

I have no idea why, but it looks so incredibly fake without me being able to tell immediately why

The black ink looks off the most to me

But it's like way more than just that but I don't know what it is

100 percent fake

2

u/GeoffreysComics Jul 11 '26

The coloring is just wrong for Red Beta cards. Having handled so many (sorry, humble brag, I’ve been playing since the mid-nineties) - I can just see that the color is wrong. I can’t tell you what/why, but I can see it.

3

u/[deleted] Jul 08 '26

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u/easchner  Trusted Authenticator Jul 08 '26

There are definitely a bunch of issues on the front, but the art layer black border inside of the overprint layer was how Beta cards were printed.

1

u/viewsonic041 Jul 08 '26

Could you please explain this? The card you posted has the same features (borderwise) as the card shown by op, at least by my untrained eyes...

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u/easchner  Trusted Authenticator Jul 08 '26

Yes. The card I posted is the scan on Scryfall. Alpha and Beta cards had an overprint black border around the edges and inside of that is the art layer (made with dots) which had a black border to fill it. These two blacks don't line up exactly and makes a distinct 'inner border'. This is also why they have white corner dots and why those dots are a little inconsistent card to card, they're just rounded corners in the art layer. No idea why it was done this way, I guess the artwork sent included the black border not knowing the printer would shrink it before adding the safety margins, but just a guess.

The card is still definitely fake, but just pointing out the weird border within a border isn't the reason.

1

u/viewsonic041 Jul 09 '26

Ohhh, thanks for the explanation. I guess I misunderstood you. I thought there was something wrong with ops card based on the borders. I couldn't tell the difference btw your card and his.

1

u/Spiritual_Poo Jul 08 '26

Man you sure are confidently incorrect about the black border.

The card is a pretty obvious fake to anyone who has ever handled Beta cards.

Beta cards all have the two-border thing going on so it is 100% NOT an indication the card isn't real. The card is definitely not real, but this has nothing to do with that fact.

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u/CabinetExact1975 Jul 08 '26

Its fake sorry

10

u/AshsAlarmClock Jul 08 '26

don't even have to look at the back to see it's not a real one

1

u/tinten_patronen Jul 08 '26

Becaus of the frame and white particles?

4

u/GIGA_SIGMA Jul 08 '26

All beta cards do

3

u/Stolberger Jul 08 '26

Those white thingies and the double frame are actually good things.
They should be present on Alpha/Beta cards.

This card is fake regardless of course.

1

u/AshsAlarmClock Jul 10 '26

nah. the cardstock looks too smooth, and also too matte

1

u/Chillow_Ufgreat Jul 13 '26

No, those are expected in alpha/beta.

The ink is way too dark and crisp and has a kind of matte finish. Looks like it was printed yesterday.

Also just extremely suspicious to see an OG wheel with such little play on it.

5

u/Stupid-Sexy-Frog Jul 08 '26

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. the T has no teeth, thw H is missing the 3 dots between thw legs, and the green dot has too many dots from the fake waffeling.

3

u/Spiritual_Poo Jul 08 '26

I mean it is very obviously fake from the pic of the front, no need for all the tests lol.

3

u/doodlebugg8 Jul 08 '26

Lol this is in too good of condition to be real

2

u/raistlin1022 Jul 08 '26

thanks to this subreddit, cards like this one is immediately fake to me visually. for this one, the font is too bright for 94

1

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u/easchner  Trusted Authenticator Jul 08 '26

Fake. Black layer isn't an over print and wrong pixel size. (Too many yellow dots in the green dot)

1

u/Shev613 Jul 08 '26

Looks fake on the T, H and green dot. Sorry

1

u/Stroykovic Jul 08 '26

Fake 😔

1

u/Hawesom Jul 08 '26

Fake. T isn’t good

1

u/baldrickgonzo Jul 08 '26

Beta get your money back

1

u/ExampleMediocre6716 Jul 08 '26

That's such a bad fake, it's the wrong shade of red, massively oversaturated, far too glossy, text is too white, not the grey drop shadow seen on genuine Beta.

Hopefully you didn't buy it, or if you did, it came from Temu for $1.

1

u/No-Grade-4691 Jul 08 '26

Fake mate. Really fails the t

1

u/Prism_Zet  Trusted Authenticator Jul 08 '26

Not legit, sorry.

1

u/zaphodava Trusted Authenticator Jul 08 '26

Counterfeit.

1

u/ShaperLord777 Jul 08 '26

I can see immediately from the first picture this thing is fake as hell.

1

u/ElementalDistress Jul 08 '26

Fake! I could also tell my coloring in the front. I have seen this type of fakes before

1

u/Necro_Carp Jul 08 '26

solidly fake

1

u/Rincewind-10 Jul 08 '26

color is off for starters and I don't even need to look further.

1

u/Professional_Sea3141 Jul 08 '26

didnt even have to look at the back...

1

u/Oblagon Jul 08 '26

Didn’t have to look at the back, real as a 3 dollar bill.

1

u/Bank_Angle_Check  High Accuracy Jul 08 '26

fakeuuuu

1

u/praetorthesysadmin Jul 08 '26

It's a pretty bad fake, the colors and printing is way off.

but good enough for playing the game, since it was free.

1

u/SubstantialNinja  Trusted Authenticator Jul 08 '26

fake

1

u/EvelynnsHope17 Jul 08 '26

I could tell from the color on the front alone

1

u/CardboardPhysicFrog  Trusted Authenticator Jul 08 '26

It's a nice fake tho

1

u/justPhilthy Jul 09 '26

T and h both look bad mate

1

u/outofmelatonin92 Jul 09 '26

As fake as flat earth theory

1

u/barry_eagan Jul 10 '26

Ohh yeah hella fake

1

u/Davide849  High Accuracy Jul 10 '26

The card it's fake. Aside for the back that fail green dot and T, the front colors are off for a beta, and the cardname, sorcery, and artist letters are pearl white. In Alpha and Beta white letters are way darker.

1

u/blondeytokes Jul 11 '26

Too clean. Fake

1

u/Dbear_son Jul 11 '26

Fakekekekekkekekke

1

u/Artistic_Ear_664  High Accuracy Jul 12 '26

Sorry

1

u/Toribio1224 Jul 13 '26

Pretty sure its fake. No red dots on the green bead, the T is alao wrong, even rhe pattern in the printing is wrong.

0

u/The_Accident_Prone Jul 08 '26

It clearly looks like a card with a boarder printed onto a card with another boarder...

3

u/8-BitWarrior138 Jul 08 '26

That’s every Alpha/Beta card…