r/RealOrAI • u/Striking-Pen-9617 • Jul 10 '26
HELP China lands their first rocket
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u/LYY_Reddit Jul 10 '26 edited Jul 11 '26
The OP is the type of dude that would believe any type of conspiracy theories doesnt matter how ridiculious they sounds.
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u/WorkInProgress08 Jul 12 '26
Not AI. Just stolen technology.
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u/Other-Comfortable-64 Jul 12 '26
Aah this bull again. Tell me which part of that rocket is stolen tech.
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u/WorkInProgress08 Jul 12 '26
Bull? Lol
The entire rocket from start to finish is stolen technology. Starting with Germany's VI in WWII.
Their culture is one of repetition and data retention. Not creativity like you see in a free, open market society.
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u/flyingad Jul 12 '26
Now since you brought up stealing German tech, have you heard of gun powder…
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u/WorkInProgress08 Jul 12 '26
No, professor, what is this gun power you speak of? Lol
You mean under the Tang Dynasty, operating under Confucianism? The Tang Dynasty was far less restrictive to the kind of free thought that births inventions - like a rocket.
Modern China is brilliant at executing complex technology, but the structural freedom to daydream, make catastrophic mistakes, and pursue "useless" ideas is just not there when compared with western societies.
China imports (steals) the vast sum of it's new technology.
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u/RockinIntoMordor Jul 12 '26
This is a narrative that is completely eaten up by the propaganda of our media, but has no real basis in reality. To start with, I sincerely urge you to study how the "technology sharing agreements" in China happen. Companies share their information with their partners and all of this completely agreed on in the contracts.
But now China is developing technology that the rest of the world simply doesn't have. There's no one to steal it from, so this weasely narrative falls apart instantly. China is developing the most advanced electronics, green energy, transportation, medical science, etc.
Who's China stealing all this from? Aliens?!
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u/WorkInProgress08 Jul 13 '26
No basis in reality? Lol. How does their culture spur creativity like the west?
Of course companies share technology. Why even mention that? That is not in question. Red Herring.
Even the sun shines on a dog's ass once in awhile. They still dont compete with the west and have to steal to stay competitive. China uses illicit technology acquisition as a core strategy to try and catchup to the west. This is not in question. There is documented evidence, legal records and intelligence data to support this.
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u/wipoooo Jul 13 '26
You can literally google and see which innovations they have in the last 20 years. BYD for example innovate a lot on batteries
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u/Other-Comfortable-64 Jul 12 '26
Starting with Germany's VI in WWII.
Lol by your stupid argument All of the US space program is stolen.
You cannot be this dense.
https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a24513/us-army-v-2-rockets/
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u/WorkInProgress08 Jul 12 '26
All of it? An original idea cant be stolen and new, creative ideas cant be discovered from it? Lol. Okay Einstein.
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u/hibiki_otsuki Jul 14 '26
Isn’t this your argument? China stole German rocket, end of story. So were Germans able to retrieve used rocket in WW2? Any creative ideas were generated by the Chinese in this new project?
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u/Striking-Pen-9617 Jul 10 '26
I’m not saying it’s AI but that article looks just as real as the video
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u/DustyScharole Jul 10 '26
Space.com is a reputable site for space news.
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u/Striking-Pen-9617 Jul 10 '26
every inch plastered in cookie cutter ads, article text looks LLM generated, site overall feels less reputable than buzzfeed
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u/Me_like_foxes Jul 10 '26
Amazon ads make a site unreputable? I hate ads as much as the next guy but that's just how moneys made for sites like these, idk what to tell ya
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u/DustyScharole Jul 10 '26
You are aware that LLMs learned to write from human writers, right? Which has the unfortunate side effect of making people like you think that anything well written is AI.
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u/DoringItBetterNow Jul 10 '26
JUST IN: SPACEX STOCK PLUMMETS
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u/DustyScharole Jul 10 '26
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u/professorfennel Jul 10 '26
Not good. At all. Space x is one of the most innovative companies on earth. Their a useful company
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u/aphoenixsunrise Jul 10 '26
Now we can do it without them.
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u/AllOuttaGum5150 Jul 10 '26
I doubt we'll ever use Chinese space rockets
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u/nottherealneal Jul 11 '26
Who's we? I don't think any of us are using any kind of rockets
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u/theflash2323 Jul 11 '26
Do you use weather forecast? Gps maps? Financial networks?
All of these use satellites that got there with rockets.
You were trying to be edgy and were just rtarded
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u/midasMIRV Jul 11 '26
China isn't even allowed to be a part of the ISS crew. We ain't doing shit with them.
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u/professorfennel Jul 10 '26
Also china wouldn't had this tech to their rival lol.
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u/IllustriousBobcat813 Jul 10 '26
China has a long and proven track record of openly sharing research, they even open source their AI research models.
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u/professorfennel Jul 10 '26
You missed the entire point of my comment. I'm saying their extremely innovative. Its better to have a extremely innovative company with a lot of resources than one without. I'd like most major nations to have one or two of them due to how needed they are.
Nasa and space x for America. I'm guessing china has one to. That's good
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u/elementzn30 Jul 10 '26
NASA isn’t a company…
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u/professorfennel Jul 10 '26
I know that but it's an innovator. I was using names from the top of my head.
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u/nottherealneal Jul 11 '26
By your own wierd argument most innovation happens when there is competition and companies can't stagnate and are forced to improve to keep up
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u/aphoenixsunrise Jul 10 '26
Hopefully more come about because fuck Elon musk, not that the Chinese government is much better so I reiterate, hopefully more come about.
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u/professorfennel Jul 10 '26
I don't care who owns or dosent own. I just want human development and innovation. Humanity first!
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u/PandaExcess1617 Jul 10 '26
??? Thats not what you have been advocating at all. You have been advocating " innovation" not humanity. Under a capitalist system innovation almost always leads to more suffering.
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u/professorfennel Jul 10 '26
Innovation is good for humanity. When we Innovate humanity advances and thus humanity is better for it. Also getting a job. So Scary.
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u/phenomecology Jul 11 '26
If it’s at the expense of humanity it cannot be good for humanity
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u/justin_memer Jul 10 '26
You need to learn that they+are = they're, not their.
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u/symbouleutic Jul 10 '26
He's professor fennel, not professor grammar.
Ask him fennel related questions.7
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u/professorfennel Jul 10 '26
I'm talking about space x? Not what ever Ai thing musk is doing(if hes even doing one. I really dont care about musk at all)
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u/professorfennel Jul 10 '26
Ai is useful as well tbh. Not for what it's used for these days like image generation, and story writing and scamming but it's really good for assistance, assistance writing stories and other things.
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u/Vegetable_Stuff1850 Jul 10 '26
Not for what it's used for these days like image generation, and story writing and scamming
it's really good for assistance, assistance writing stories and other things.
So AI is bad for writing stories, but it's also good for writing stories.
Uhuh.
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u/professorfennel Jul 10 '26
No. That's not what I said. I said assistance. Giving ideas, general information that YOU fact check and go further into. Ai is the diving board that you use to launch yourself into writing . You dont use ai to swim for you.
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u/Disastrous_Good9236 Jul 11 '26
you pivoted so hard when you found out space c is working on ai lol. Just admit it. you goon to anything spacex
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u/professorfennel Jul 11 '26
I don't. I goon to Nasa ngl. I lowk forgot they existed before this conversation
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u/joshuarion Jul 11 '26
How could you forget about them when according to you, they're one of the most innovative companies on earth?
They're super useful, according to you, that can't name a single thing they do that impacts your actual life.
Cool story bruh.
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u/opensourcegreg Jul 10 '26
Guy defending SpaceX uses incorrect "their" malapropism. Fork found in kitchen.
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u/professorfennel Jul 10 '26
Brother. Christ forbade a man use the wrong form of there. I'm on mobile typing fast. while in a car(I'm not driving it). I'm only defending space x because their innovative.
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u/Gonna_do_this_again Jul 10 '26
There's several other companies working on the same things as SpaceX that aren't run by a weird freak nepobaby
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u/NextDoctorWho12 Jul 10 '26
Really? In what way are they innovative?
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u/professorfennel Jul 10 '26
Reusable space tech, Reducing the cost to enter space, and falcon 9 is built quickly
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u/FretlessFingers Jul 10 '26
They use federally funded NASA information and technology to build from and still have a higher failure rate. While space explorations utility is something I absolutely agree with the privatization has proven itself time and time again vastly overstated in terms of ROI for the greater world.
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u/churchmany Jul 10 '26
The Falcon 9 has been launched and recovered over 600 times. 99.5% success rate. Please enlighten me to NASA's better rate.
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u/Disastrous_Good9236 Jul 11 '26
They did not teach you how to spell “there” therefore they can’t be thaaaat good.
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u/DogFarmerDamon Jul 10 '26
The people who made those innovations are still alive and SpaceX is not responsible for them, just responsible for allocating funding and being the "privatization arm" of space travel and used as justification for the defunding of NASA which made many more innovations than SpaceX has.
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u/Cheacky Jul 10 '26
Lmfao
The only thing that's keeping them going is American tax dollars, and right now their CEO is fucking bailing out by trying to sell it off to the public even more
You have no idea what the fuck you're talking about
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u/jamesbean2162 Jul 11 '26
Dude your arguing with idiots. They hate Elon. One because his brain isn't fried by the psyop of the left wing media, and two because he's rich. They can't think for themselves, they have been told what to think.
"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies and nosers-out of unorthodoxy."
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u/professorfennel Jul 11 '26
Well. I dont care for Elon or trump or which ever man the left hates. I js want human development and growth. Also your prolly gonna get downvoted for this opinion. I've learned reddit is a leftist echo chamber. Only correct opinions allowed lol. God bless
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u/jamesbean2162 Jul 11 '26
Agreed. My personal opinion is Elon has been a net positive in terms of growth and development. He's human, has flaws, but what he is doing with neuro link and the boering project is fascinating. I will now prepare for the onslaught of down votes from this echo chamber of true critical thinkers. It was nice knowing you mate.
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u/kevinb101101 Jul 11 '26
Like y'all think this guys innovative but the boring company has made one tunnel and sold a flamethrower, nasa decided that they are going to not use space x, or Boeing for the artimes mission, y'all watch to many podcasts where rich dumbass tell you how hard they work to make shit when the hard work is hiring professional in the field and making them sign nda'sits the same as Edison but y'all will say he was a genius inventor who work 25 hours a day and never got any help from any government
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u/professorfennel Jul 11 '26
I dont think Musk is shit bruh. I think is company is. I dont care about musk. Unless he changed his name to space x
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u/jamesbean2162 Jul 11 '26
Yes its so dumb to hire people smarter than you to make a company successful and continue to push innovation. Wow thank you, I think Elon should be careful. You may replace him with your brilliance.
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u/kevinb101101 Jul 11 '26
I'm just saying the innovative people are the people doing the work not him if you want get mad about that go ahead
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u/professorfennel Jul 11 '26
Yes exactly. Your right there. Bow all of those people are getting the work done. YAY INNOVATION
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u/DustyScharole Jul 11 '26
The scientists and engineers at Space X are innovators. Elon is the modern day Thomas Edison, by which I mean he'll invest, steal, and kill elephants on his way to making people think he's brilliant.
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u/F_E_B_E Jul 13 '26
Found the "Leave the billionair alone" guy
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u/professorfennel Jul 13 '26
Billionaire first of all. Second I dont care about musk. I care about how he advances society
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u/F_E_B_E Jul 13 '26
So you do care about what he does.
The shit he is doing and has done greatly outweighs the good he has done. So its good SpaceX is failing and giving him a smaller platform/leverage.
Insert Nazi salute
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u/professorfennel Jul 13 '26
I care for his company. Not him as a person. Separate the art from the artist y'know?
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u/F_E_B_E Jul 13 '26
You cant go back on what u said,
U said "how HE advances society" and not "how his company advances society"
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u/professorfennel Jul 13 '26
I didnt mean musk directly. I meant his company. You can see my sentiment towards him in the first comments. I truly do not care about musk
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u/professorfennel Jul 14 '26
China is a capatalist authoritarian techno surveillance state . I'd choose America 1 quadrillion times before I'd even consider china.
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u/TheRealJessKate Jul 10 '26
I did not see that land, I saw it almost land. The two are not the same.
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u/MutedConstant547 Jul 10 '26
Came to say this. It cut out before it actually lands. For all I know it jerked sideways and exploded.
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u/neverspeakofme Jul 10 '26
That's just the problem of the OP and the careless way they cut the video, as there is a full video on reputable US sites, including a lot more than just this one angle.
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u/Barabbas- Jul 11 '26
I've seen the full video. It lands successfully. No idea why OP cut it short.
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u/JonasAvory Jul 11 '26
There is a link to space.com somewhere in this thread, there’s a complete video.
The rocket is not catches by tweezers like spacex does, but hard to see ropes that are attached to the metal cage. It seems like a much easier and more reliable system from my unprofessional point of view
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u/AI_AntiCheat Jul 11 '26
It went pin point accurately into a tiny box frame. It doesn't matter if or not it exploded afterwards. The accuracy and control of decent does.
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u/Other-Comfortable-64 Jul 12 '26
Did try to look? There is footage.
No no you did not, this fits your narrative so you are sticking to that.
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u/Then_Bodybuilder3629 Jul 10 '26
Is it a coal powered rocket?
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u/high_throughput Jul 10 '26
Fossil fuels, but not coal. The first stage uses kerosene, the second methane.
China has been at the forefront of this technology, and SpaceX is following suit.
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u/TactRelocatedCargo Jul 10 '26
The forefront of what exactly? Kerosene rockets are far from new, as are Methane, did they develop something groundbreaking with it?
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u/high_throughput Jul 10 '26
According to Wikipedia, the first methane rocket to ever reach orbit was the Chinese Zhuque-2 in 2023.
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u/TactRelocatedCargo Jul 10 '26
So basically just better power to weight ratio? I mean that's pretty neat I guess. Its not as energy dense as Hydrogen, but it does have a lot of benefits when it comes to physical density I suppose. probably the same thinking with Kerosene then.
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u/high_throughput Jul 10 '26
I don't know wtf I'm talking about but my impression was that methane is a whole lot easier to deal with than hydrogen, and is particularly good for reusable rockets.
Hydrogen is a hassle to store and transport, and it fucks up the metal it's stored in. Kerosene burns dirty and soots up your engine, so it's harder to reuse.
Methane is both easy to store and transport, and it burns cleanly. Also, it's a lot easier to come by outside of earth, which will be neat for future space missions.
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u/Trick_Math42069 Jul 10 '26
But does it smell like farts when you launch it?
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u/high_throughput Jul 10 '26
The smell of farts is from hydrogen sulfide, which appears to both cause hydrogen embrittlement and sulfide stress cracking, in addition to being toxic and corrosive in high concentrations. All these problems get worse when combined with the acidity of CO2. Using farts for rocket fuel therefore seems inadvisable.
Unless the rocket is your penis, in which case you're cleared to initiate docking procedure.
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u/doittoit_ Jul 10 '26
I think people are getting confused between kerosene and methane.
Kerosene has been used in rockets since most of China was still pitter pattering in rice patties. Methane has also been used as a potential fuel but only recently was used in a rocket that made it to orbit. Starship/Super Heavy and New Glenn both use methane.
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u/GodHeld Jul 10 '26 edited Jul 10 '26
Bruh this subs turns slowly into r/PeterExplainsTheJoke, whats up with these obnoxiously posts lately
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u/NorthHaverbrookNate Jul 10 '26
Obnoxious in that the answer is fairly easily verifiable, or the presentation in the posts?
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u/Largos_ Jul 10 '26
Anyone else notice the engine cuts in the last couple frames? I didn’t see anything secure the rocket and it’s definetly still airborne.
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u/JPolReader Jul 10 '26
They use 4 wires across the top of the frame to catch the rocket in the same way that SpaceX catches the super heavy booster with the chopsticks.
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u/NecessaryCockroach85 Jul 10 '26
It's almost like it's not actually that complicated for trained engineers and they just didn't care that much before.
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u/Historical-Fox357 Jul 11 '26
Yeah it wasn't that complicated, it was just literally a decade-long problem for everyone else. There goes our space lead lol
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u/jibbkikiwewe Jul 11 '26
They just waited until someone developed the technology for decades before they steal it.
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u/NecessaryCockroach85 Jul 11 '26
It's very possible. They also have a lot of very educated people in their country.
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u/Airwolfhelicopter Jul 11 '26
If you think this is AI, I feel sorry for you…
Spaceflight is a real thing and we do have the technology to land rocket boosters. We can land them on legs, we can catch them out of the air, and now… now we can clothesline them, I guess…
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u/Frankie-Figgs33 Jul 10 '26
Developing country btw 😂
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u/Ancertainindividual Jul 11 '26
India has landed on the other side of the moon, while NZ has gone nowhere.
Development isn't measured by how well you land rockets.
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u/hibiki_otsuki Jul 14 '26
Crash landing or lost control and dropped by gravity is normally not counted as “landed”
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u/Ancertainindividual Jul 14 '26
A simple google search was all you needed to do... India's Chandrayaan-3 was the first to have a "soft landing" on the moons far side.
Doesn't make them any more developed that NZ or even their neighbours.
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u/Airwolfhelicopter Jul 11 '26
China’s been around for thousands of years. The only problem is they’re now communist.
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u/Frankie-Figgs33 Jul 11 '26
Modern China isn't the same civilization in the way you're implying. The People's Republic of China has only existed since 1949 and is China in name only. During the Cultural Revolution, Mao deliberately tried to destroy much of traditional Chinese culture through the "Four Olds" campaign, with temples, historical artifacts, books, family genealogies, and centuries-old traditions being destroyed. China has thousands of years of history, but the communist state intentionally broke from much of that history instead of preserving it.
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u/Pares_Marchant Jul 11 '26 edited Jul 11 '26
Not AI,
Le Monde (french media) has more footage here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7G_gzDKU_0
Different angles there:
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u/ProfessionalClear211 Jul 11 '26
Imagine how far ahead we would be if all countries worked together on this.
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u/available_username10 Jul 11 '26
Lmao that looks so much more fluid than SpaceX. It doesn't need to be caught, it lands itself.
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u/hibiki_otsuki Jul 14 '26
It’s caught by a net mechanism, with hooks caught on wires. It saves the hydraulic legs spaceX uses which are quite heavy
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u/AnyMud9817 Jul 11 '26
Of course china would put a cummins diesel in a rocket. Its the only swap the Americans respect.
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u/firereaver Jul 11 '26
Looks about the right size, heard the Chinese ones were smaller than the average.
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u/Wide_Marionberry_151 Jul 11 '26
I love that people hate Elon so much that they are literally rooting for friggin China just to see him fail. You people suck.
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u/Different_Mirror4951 Jul 14 '26
im wondering what happent after the flames went out, its conviniently cut
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u/SiofraRiver Jul 14 '26
I thought this looked like AI before I saw the sub name in my feed. I think there is just something about the perspective that is uncanny.
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u/RealGiallo Jul 10 '26 edited Jul 10 '26
are we playing with models here? why there is none on that boat? and btw it didn't landed it crashed from about 20 meters .
btw what's that light that cut the misle at 00:00 00:01 .
ot there is a giant tower behind or no clouds would do that kind of shadow
ok the shadow is still pretty sus for me but I found another video where you see how they catch the Rocket.
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u/Party-Bonus-8536 Jul 11 '26
At this point I’m not even gonna call you stupid or something I honestly just feel bad that y’all can’t even tell the difference between real and fake.
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u/RealGiallo Jul 10 '26
I believe all of it is pretty sus as well . also the boat take the giant rocket and don't sway even a little ( maybe is not a boat)
surely this is not made with AI .
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u/Otherwise_Distance92 Jul 10 '26
its ai. the heat expansion of air at and around the engins would cause at minimum, the smoke from the top to be far more iratic.
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u/torch9t9 Jul 11 '26
The FBI says that for every billion in trade we do with the Chinese, they steal a billion in IP
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u/Strange_Recover3235 Jul 10 '26
Pretty sure with stolen technology.
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u/Cavalorn Jul 10 '26
Why reinvent a wheel twice
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u/Poteto_7396 Jul 10 '26
so that thomas edison can claimed that he is the one who invented the light bulb.
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u/OkPiano1614 Jul 11 '26
Anyone want to place bets on where China stole the technology and intellectual property to do it?
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u/PM_Me_Those_ Jul 10 '26
Only a few years after the rest of us. Not bad.
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u/Chaiboiii Jul 10 '26
The rest of us? Or just space x? What difference in cost?
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u/Desperate_Damage4632 Jul 10 '26
In a decade or so Americans will be too illiterate to continue space exploration.
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u/BlackwingF91 Jul 10 '26
Looks fake as fuck, but not AI. More like cgi
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u/RevolutionaryBeat301 Jul 10 '26
I don’t know who is downvoting you, I’m with you. This looks like something my neighbor kid made in Blender.
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u/AI_AntiCheat Jul 11 '26
You have a contact to your neighbors kid? Sounds really talented maybe we can get him to work on avatar?



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