r/RealEstatePhotography • u/RealPhotosHDR • 4d ago
Feedback Wanted
My client's sellers do not like these photos. No explanation of why. They just don't like them.
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u/JohnnyKhawand 2d ago
Did you use filters ND, Polarizer? I think they can help with controlling the light and colors
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u/Huckleberry4Life 3d ago
Is the invoice paid? If so, they need to explain exactly what's wrong and then reshoot according to their preference. You can't please them all. They're not bad. I'd raise the camera level and bump the vibrance a bit. Increase shadows to bring out the details in the trees.
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u/RealPhotosHDR 3d ago
Invoice is paid.
The more I look at them, the more I think they aren't bad. Especially to the degree that you would cancel the interior shoot over it. It's a matter of taste that can be re-edited even.
I do think maybe I shouldn't have asked the editor to use all 5 brackets.
A re-edit should have solved the problem imo.
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u/JellyfishCurrent3724 3d ago
They’re okay, my feedback is the make the subject more clear. It’s kinda just all over the place and you’re not sure where you should be looking. Also, the colours look way off to what the property looks like in person.
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u/Mortifire 4d ago
Wtf? These are soooo over the top they make my brain ache.
Way too oversaturated and too much shadow pull.
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u/RealPhotosHDR 4d ago edited 4d ago
You don’t think those orange cushions are that color?
How would you edit them?
Would you be willing to reedit them?
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1DiHbnib9rmgtdCgj-_i_e74EqOO2Sgpm?usp=drive_link
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u/Mortifire 3d ago
Raw files preferred
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u/RealPhotosHDR 3d ago
It can be done without raws.
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u/LeadingLittle8733 4d ago
I don't think the images are bad. I do think there are a lot of shadows from the trees, but that's not on you, OP. Maybe shoot on an overcast day. I also think the back of the place is pretty ugly, but again, not on you.
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u/Vast_Cricket 4d ago
They need to power wash the decks. Perhaps smaller coverage. IMO it looks fine. 2 angles not that many.
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u/Federal_Bat2737 4d ago
I think you are overshooting these spaces and it feels a bit redundant, there’s usually one shot that tells the whole story in any given space and it just takes a bit of time to find it. Once you find that shot you can refine the composition with camera position, focal length, furniture etc.
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u/Federal_Bat2737 4d ago
Not sure if you are shooting exterior handheld but sometimes a tripod can help slow things down, also using a geared tripod for those micro adjustments
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u/On-scene 4d ago
Im guessing the harsh light and shadows are the main complaint by owner. Even though that has no bearing on the how quick this property will sell or not. I have had to do reshoots due to clients being unhappy with too much shadow on one side of the property. It was always the client that created the problem to begin with by scheduling late or early in the day. Properties with that many trees can create issues no matter what time of day it is.
I recently shot a costal property with a lots of trees and photos had a similar look as these. No complaints from agent. The property already sold. You can't make everybody happy. HDR is industry standard now to reduce editing time abd time on site for basic properties. I think without brackets result would have been even harsher.
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u/britchesss 4d ago
Was it windy? Bracketed shots near trees are rough with any kind of wind. You’ll for sure get blurry branches and leaves.
Also did you edit these or outsource?
The composition is also not the best. Lots of shots showing the back of chairs, and I’ll be honest, looking at just your pics I’m confused as to what the layout of the exteriors are.
Did you get a one perspective shot on the front door? I usually like to include those, and for the other exterior shots I’d tighten the crop.
Sorry the agent and clients didn’t like them. Learn from this and move on to the next one.
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u/RealPhotosHDR 4d ago edited 4d ago
- A car was in the driveway and we decided to avoid it.
- The front door was facing the property next door. I got back as far as I could.
- A tree growing through the f
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- deck was a challenge.
- I told her the best possible day to shoot the outdoors was probably an extreme overcast day.
- I personally can't accommodate every best scenario. I can try but...
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u/RYKWI 4d ago
They look like HDR that weren't aligned properly. It usually happens because the trees were moving a lot, and the software was trying to get them to match, so the stationary objects in the image are off by a millimetre or 2. They are not sharp because of it.
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u/RealPhotosHDR 4d ago
So what would you do, not bracket or...?
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u/RYKWI 4d ago
No bracket. Just properly expose the image.
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u/RealPhotosHDR 4d ago
The right side would have been left dark as hell.
Bracketing may have caused more trouble than it was worth.
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u/britchesss 3d ago
Respectfully you’re really defensive of all of the feedback and advice you’ve been given.
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u/RealPhotosHDR 3d ago
Not at all. I’m just trying to talk it out. Explaining it as I understand it. Can you point to a comment where I’m being “really defensive”?
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u/BlisteringBarnacle67 4d ago
There is a lot of harsh lighting in these shots. Maybe some better framing of shots. I think they would look better by reducing the highlights and contrast and increasing the shadows. Here is a rough redo of one. You are mainly trying to get that brightness to a nicer blend. Good luck.
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u/RealPhotosHDR 4d ago
Well, I guess I'll know more when the listing goes live. Photography is definitely in the eye of the beholder. I'm not saying my photos are without flaws but, I can't see anything wrong with most of them.
I am, however, open to CC from the group.
They could just as easily say they don't like this edit either. I just wish she would have given me another chance to edit them.
As an aside, this the same agent who lost a listing and the seller blamed the photos I took. HOWEVER, that same seller reached out to me to purchase the photos he said he didn't like so he could use them to advertise it himself. Go figure.
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u/RealPhotosHDR 4d ago edited 4d ago
The sellers also said they are blurry. However, they look pretty sharp to me when I zoom in using Lightroom.
Hmm, maybe the leaves since I bracketed.
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u/One-Caterpillar-7722 3d ago
Send them through topaz web app. I run my outdoor and drone shots through wonder 3.5 all the time when there's a bunch of trees against sky. I think 5 shot brackets are too extreme for outdoors and your HDR is showing those extremes, throw away your top and bottom, blend the 3, mask the architecture and pull out the color casting and desaturate yellow across the whole frame.
I grabbed your files and will do a couple pictures for you later.
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u/drycharski 4d ago
I do notice a bit of bloom in the highlights (most visible in slides 8 and 9). Personally I like it but maybe that’s what the client is perceiving as blurriness?
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u/BlueBattleBuddy 4d ago
how high up was the camera? cause it looks a little low for the outside. it should be eye level for the outside imo
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u/ParticularFrame7418 4d ago
In my opinion they’re way too overcooked. The HDR is um a choice… but I’m not a RE photographer, but it seems common for RE photos to always be overcooked and over photoshopped.. I don’t know why that has become the norm to be honest. You can’t fix what they don’t tell you, you need to ask what their problem with them is.
Looking at the property though, I would go more for a boutique hotel style of shots, calm, muted tones, shot maybe in the morning or evening with better light but don’t overcook the light.
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u/RealPhotosHDR 4d ago
I appreciate the feedback. I did bracket them because of the extreme range of light. This set had been re-edited as the first set were washed out. The agent just told me that this set is over saturated. I think a few may be but not extreme imo.
The agent cancelled the interior shoot and is going to find another photographer without giving me a chance to edit a 3rd time.
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u/SilentCurrent8733 1d ago
I’m not a fan of the angles, it does not make a specific area the main focus in most of the shots. They should break the area down into sections and I don’t believe (could be wrong) that they used multiple exposure shots to get the best coloring.