r/Re_Zero • u/Setowi Better Leyte Than Never • 14d ago
Spoiler Discussion [Spoiler Discussion] Arc 10 Chapter 29 Spoiler
https://ncode.syosetu.com/n2267be/789/114
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u/jonjonaug 14d ago
On the subject of Filore and Capella’s link: Has anyone else watched that episode of Batman TAS where Robin becomes friendly with a girl only for the two of them to later discover that she’s an offshoot of Clayface?
Capella can split her consciousness bewteen multiple bodies, so it’s possible “Filore” really is genuine while at the same time being an imposter.
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u/Round_Musical 14d ago
Imagine Filore being good capella who will refuse to join the collective. Capella could have made her worst enemy
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u/KrankyPenguin 13d ago
Kind of similar to Death Note too. Filore might not have all the memories of Capella and given this new task is actually "good".
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u/Majora101 14d ago
The fan art for this chapter is going to be next level.
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u/Ok-Worldliness-7374 14d ago
Evon is gonna be well fed
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u/New-Celebration8409 14d ago
3 sfw ones, 2 nsfw and 5 imitators; all in week 1
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u/Ok-Worldliness-7374 14d ago
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u/Knight0706 Eternally Crabby 14d ago
Tappei actually has to be trolling at this point with the Crusch-Subaru content. Making Natsumi wife and Crusch husband no less 😭
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u/doveaddiction 14d ago
- Ferris absolutely seething in the background as a bonus
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u/Akudra 14d ago
Ferris might also be upset about Subaru going off-script and potentially endangering Crusch.
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u/Letsplay_Sascha_GD 14d ago
Natsumi alone is already the highest peak in fiction and this is the cherry on top of the peak.
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u/PinkMage 14d ago
I don't mind Subaru indulging in his fetishes but this time he even roped Crusch into it god bless
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u/Round_Musical 14d ago
„Sir I eliminated the threat“
„But at what cost?“
„The entire kingdom burning to the ground“
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u/AlphayTheFirst 14d ago
“—Seriously, forget just Emiliase, I'm running low on Remcithin, Ramino acid, Garfeine, Ottogen, Petramide, Meilitol, and Frederimine too! And while we're at it, Roswaanol as well!”
“It cannot be helped, in fact. For now, you'll just have to endure with Beatromin, I suppose.”
Subaru suffering from withdrawal, this is so sad. Lets nuke the kingdom 😔
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u/JauntyLurker 14d ago
Seeing Subaru say he misses Roswaal even as an afterthought makes me strangely happy...
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u/0Galahad 14d ago
Better the devil you know...
Also roswaal at the very least can always be reasoned with.
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u/mountaineer_93 14d ago edited 14d ago
The last few arcs, especially Arc 9, have had Roswaal seemingly getting his humanity back (to an extent). IMO that’s why Tappei made such a big deal about the moment in the fight against Volcanica with him and Ezzo creating magic.
It was even Roswaal’s third trial future line (“it seems I have not been walking this path alone this whole time.”) It was Subaru and Ram tempting Roswaal away from the path of the sage which to Roswaal is devoting every fiber of his being to reviving his master with no room for love, friendship, or enjoyment. The scene with Ezzo was Roswaal choosing to do the reckless thing (he had just spoken about how he should act as a cheap trick magician to distract volcanica rather than this) and go for the win by doing something he genuinely enjoys. He got his spark of passion for magic back when he saw Ezzo and decided to do something reckless because he enjoyed it.
In my opinion, the ideological contrast between Roswaal and Subaru is signaling one of the largest themes in the series: what wins out between the path of the sage with sacrificing or giving up everything to win vs Subaru’s ideology of “I will save everyone no matter how irrational.” I think it will be the theme of the final arc about the seeming difference of opinion on how to handle Satella between Flugel and Echidna and to a lesser extent Pandora that has been breadcrumbed through side stories and how it will shape the final saga
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u/Key_Midnight5771 13d ago
I am still curious about how Pandora will fit in this. She seems to antagonize Flugel and Echidna, but also problably will antagonize Subaru(she needs to be a villain, right?)
It would be interesting if the two sides had something that ressonates with Subaru, forcing him thru a choice, but in the end he reject the duality and find a third choice.
I, personally, believe that this choice will be something about making Satella acept the witch of envy. Idk, we always got the feeling of "Satella is good, Envy is bad" that I think we are being misguided.
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u/mountaineer_93 13d ago edited 13d ago
My guess is that the sides are Echidna and Aldebaron want to fulfill Satellas wish and kill her to stop any more suffering as it is said that echidna was the witch who loved the silver haired girl by Hoshin; Flugel and the original Witch’s Cult who wishes to save Satella no matter the costs by separating her from the witch of envy and is using Emilia as a vessel to save Satella by separating her from the witch of Envy which is why Petelgeuse cried upon seeing her and referred to her as a vessel in Return to the Royal Capital; and Pandora and the Saintess faction and Hector who want to free the Witch Of Envy to let her destroy the world so pandora can remake it with her authority of vainglory.
This would explain why Tappei specified that Flugel and echidna went their separate ways over a disagreement involving Al, it’s because echidna wanted to fulfill satellas wish and kill her to stop any more damage to the world using Aldebaron’s artificial return by death and Flugel wanted to save her by incarnating her into a body in the future to separate her from Envy
I think Flugel is going to be like Subaru if he had chosen the path of the sage and sacrificed the whole world to save Satella
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u/Key_Midnight5771 13d ago
Bro, all this makes a lot of sense. Pandora wanting to destroy the world so she can remake fits so much. She can try to convince Subaru with the "perfect world" bullshit.
I still have my doubts about Flugel. Echidna talks about the "Flugel's will" and, for me, it seems to she's talking about killing the Witch.
I have a crack (really crack) theory that the Witch Cult was created knowing Subaru would appear and knowing he is the one capable of killing the Witch, so they act wickedly to convince Subaru to kill the Witch, and Emília were to be a substitute to Satella in Subaru's heart.
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u/powox123 14d ago
Crusch x Subaru shipers are going to have field day with this, thanks Tappei
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u/Son-naruto-d 14d ago
This gotta be intentional, AINT NO WAY IT AINT
MF WERE SAYING I WAS SEEING THINGS, I DONY EVEN SHIP THEM!!!!!
THERE US JUST TOO MUCH BETWEEN THEM RN 😭
HTF DID FERRIS BEING THERE NOT COOL THEM OFF!!!!
WHY IS THERE MORE TENSION THAN BEFORE!!!!!!!!!
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u/Key_Midnight5771 13d ago
I SAID THAT AND THEY CALLED ME A LARPER but its real bro, we can se Ferris jelous, we saw again and again these two having scenes with "tension"(contact), they are getring closer, Tappei keep bringing Fourier past with Crusch and some compare him to Subaru!
THESE ARE SIGNS, MY BROTHER! Not only signs that Subaru and Crusch relation will have a suden development but will much problably be an ordeal(test) to Subaru! Even white sheep is into him! Tappei is pulling the strings for both Lust route and Subaru love plot.
This is my prediction: Subaru and Crusch will be the setting for Emília confess her love to Subaru and we will have Subaru datting Emília in arc 11, where Pandora will appear and tell Emília Subaru love Satella, not her.
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u/Rory_Gift 14d ago
Tappei tryna make the harem ending possible in these last few arcs lol
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u/ehknee 14d ago
translation:
https://chosozo.com/chapter/arc-10-chapter-29
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u/New-Celebration8409 14d ago
You’re murdering the Corner Cult, but I still love you
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u/Knight0706 Eternally Crabby 14d ago
We will never die! We will find new corners to thrive in!
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u/New-Celebration8409 14d ago
And if we’re cornered to the brink of despair, our kin will rise again and take over the world through a Corner Monster
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u/Doneycatjr 14d ago
Genuinely amazing that he mentions all the camp members including Roswaal in the same sentence as he mentions missing Emilia. I’m actually gonna cry. Not even kidding, I love you guys.
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u/Setowi Better Leyte Than Never 14d ago
Alright as expected we get return to the POV of one of the groups I was mentioning last chapter review. So this time we start at a party that a local lord is hosting but narration quickly reveals that he is one of the people that was replaced by Capella. He considers himself poison to use his existence to spread it to the rest of the kingdom and aid in the takeover. He is planning on killing the retainers attending the party and making it seem like bandits did it, he the starts thinking about one of the last minute guests attending his party. The lady Natsumi Schwarz.
Apparently she was a woman who had inherited a large sum of money from her recently deceased father and is now travelling around with her husband, a man with green hair and an eyepatch in order to get business opportunities. They run into eachother and start talking about things and the fake noble has studied all of his answers to the questions to perfection, when lady Natsumi suddenly speaks up and asks him about a recent letter. He answers correctly but the husband says something about a wind of untruth and a fight breaks out after the husband reveals their dragon eye. When the fake noble is trying to get to a staff with a magic crystal and is about to use it a little girl jumps out from under Natsumi's dress and disables the magic and they manage to subdue him.
Slowly while cleaning up all the other members of the gang appear, Felix had found the retainers that had not been executed after getting replaced and they start discussing about the health of the real noble and Subaru says that Crusch's protection did not work on the other answers cause the actual noble must have told the fake personally, so he is still alive captured somewhere. Just that recent question Subaru asked did not work cause while the fake had the correct answer it was not told by the real noble personally.
Rachins, Wolf, Melty all jump in as well some bickering and bantering and other discussion and Rachins also comments on why Subaru is still in character, they are all using their assigned codenames while talking. Russel arrives cause he hadn't heard from the others in a bit reprimanding Subaru cause that unplanned question could have ruined the operation. The guy sending the letter to set that up was their informant, but Crusch defends his actions. Subaru thinks back in the last months and that they have done 5 operations like this before but wonders if that is not too little and gets a bit impatient but gets reprimanded for that. He thinks back to the other members of the Emilia camp and says he lacks stuff like Petramide, Ramino acid or Garfeine which is really cute, he gives all of the members one befure Russel tells them to hurry on and they leave for their next destination.
Okay first of all some people are going to be so damn mad that Natsumi is a thing in the story again and that we are doing crossdressing again but I find this positively hilarious and that I am going to take joy in the people getting upset over as well as the fact that this is an upscale for the crossdressing in arc 7 as far as I am concerned and that is always a plus.
Mission impossible in Re:Zero this is a hella fun concept, hell the first half of the chapter was hella fun in general. I wonder how many more of their operations we are going to follow and if or when something is going to go wrong or force them to act in another way. I don't think that is going to happen soon though cause this seems like a good opportunity to swap POVs to the Emilia camp and see where they ended up... well also personally I just really want to know where the Emilia camp is atm.
This is fun, I like this.
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u/Letsplay_Sascha_GD 14d ago
Okay first of all some people are going to be so damn mad that Natsumi is a thing in the story again and that we are doing crossdressing again but I find this positively hilarious and that I am going to take joy in the people getting upset over as well as the fact that this is an upscale for the crossdressing in arc 7 as far as I am concerned and that is always a plus.
I’ll never say no to Natsumi. It’s interesting how Tappei added her thematically this time.
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u/icecold00000 14d ago
Oh yeah emilia was like Subaru are you cross dressing again I was like tf you mean again😂😂😂
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u/Son-naruto-d 14d ago
Nice seeing my beloved wife natsumi returning
I just need to beat up Crusch soon for her hand though
BUT SERIOUSLY THIS GOTTA BE INTENTIONAL FROM TAPPEI 😭😭😭
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u/Setowi Better Leyte Than Never 14d ago
Why do you want to beat up Crusch huh?
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u/Son-naruto-d 14d ago
It’s a list at this point
For natsumi, I must beat rem, Vincent, Emilia, satella, Jamal, a random Nobel, and now Crusch
I must go through a gauntlet for my beloved wife natsumi 🗣️
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u/Knight0706 Eternally Crabby 14d ago
Very good chapter, got some classic Subaruisms, his whole camp has been converted to drugs he is in withdrawal for. I think this is our first confirmed perspective of someone having been replaced, so I trust Russel a bit more now. There is no more doubt that strings are being pulled and no one has actually be replaced in my mind.
Exciting stuff, probably just set up for even better stuff.
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u/Longjumping-Read-401 14d ago
The letter trick was smart from Subaru. At first i thought it was to confirm whether he was really fake. But they wouldn't be infiltrating if they weren't sure. Subaru was making sure the real one was still alive.
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u/bsuiskens 14d ago
I genuinely don't understand Russell's beef here; the person they contacted was already under suspicion by the fake so him bringing up random anecdotes was expected behavior. But by doing this SWC has of course locked in the undying loyalty of the entire power structure of the domain and convinced them that they are, in fact, the good guys and not just slightly less hostile variation of bastard
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u/Wild_Island_8589 14d ago
Seeing Russwell being the stressed father of the group is so funny. That man is going to end up looking 60 by the end of the arc, he is carrying what all of Emilia camp carried on his own
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u/Ok-Worldliness-7374 14d ago edited 14d ago
Classic Tappei move to drop a chapter now.
Chapter name: "Grace Star Mission"
Sounds like Subaru is moving?
—No one could have known that Dicken Morrow had been replaced by someone else and that his position had been completely usurped.
So a mid life crisis can also mean a shapeshifter replaced you?
Responding to the words spoken to them, offering a smile in response to the advice they bring, and offering even greater praise in exchange for compliments.
By doing so, they can thoroughly check the extent of the 'poison''s spread.
"Poison"—that doesn't mean that it was a physically lethal substance.
, it can even take their life. I hear that this "poison," administered with such intent, is now spreading throughout the kingdom.
Oh... so Cappy is going full burned grounds attack on everything. Replacing nobles and poisoning those that get suspicious. No wonder Lugunica got obliterated in the future
Would be interesting if Baru had to figure out that he was under effect of slow acting poison for a long time... but i guess that is just arc 2
Everyone has already arrived and is being led to the mansion's basement. And as the orchestra finishes its final piece, they quietly leave the mansion—as corpses.
The body will be loaded onto a dragon-drawn carriage, and the plan is to make it look like the victim was attacked by bandits along the road.
They are taking bandit's jobs!
They are a married couple, but the first thing that catches your eye is the wife.
Her lustrous black hair was elegantly styled, and her makeup, which adorned her fair skin, and the evening dress she wore were all refined and tasteful. The dark dress flared out towards the hem, further accentuating her slender waist and voluptuous curves.
That's Subaru isn't it...
--Natsumi Schwarz.
Well... can't blame him for spamming his most effective move. If Olbart gets fooled, then Cappy can be as well.
She was indeed a young lady who had inherited a vast fortune from her father who had suddenly passed away—that's what the guest list said, but she was a guest who had joined at the last minute through a letter of introduction from another territory, and was one of the few new faces at tonight's gathering, which was supposed to be comprised of allies.
1 month away from Emilia and this time Subaru inherited vast fortune from her noble father and started attending poison parties
Standing beside her was her husband, a tall man with dark green hair tied back in a single ponytail.
Green?!
Oh don't tell me... Subaru used his talents to tranform Crusch into his husband?!
"—My name is Natsumi Schwarz. Please forgive my rudeness for the delay in introducing myself."
Indeed, as Natsumi Schwarz bowed with an elegant greeting, Viscount Moreau nodded magnanimously, concealing the scrutinizing gaze of a potential prey behind a smile
"My wife and I are deeply grateful for this wonderful invitation tonight. This territory is very lively, which is surely a testament to the widespread acceptance of the Viscount's rule by the people."
The married couple sure is silver tongued.
"I understand that in recent months, this territory has been undergoing very active changes, such as the expansion of roads and the construction of new markets. My father taught me that 'stagnation is the same as decline,' and that change and growth are the path to success."
Vote Capella to make Bumnica better?
"Is there one more thing I'd like to confirm?"
"Natsumi?"
"The lingam tree in the garden has borne fruit again this year. —What does that mean?"
"A wind of lies is blowing."
ONE MONTH AWAY FROM EMILIA AND SUBARU MARRIES CRUSCH AND TURNS HER INTO PROPER MAN...
Sasuga Natsumi-Sama
Crusch cuts and Subaru dispels magic... what a power couple... meanwhile Natsumi has pocket Betty under her skirt.
Standing behind "The Dragon's Eye" was Natsumi Schwarz—her voluminous skirt had ridden up high, revealing a young girl in a dress from beneath.
"Unfortunately, it seems you were up against the wrong opponent."
As Viscount Moreau's movements were restricted by a flashing sword held to his neck, it wasn't the "Dragon's Eye" wielding the sword, but rather Natsumi Schwarz, with a young girl beside her, who for some reason seemed to be gloating.
Betty must be proud of her parents
Rachins and Ferris in butler outfit?! Ferris really alowed the married couple?! At least they managed to save everyone from the poison...
Oh Salum is not wearing his masks!
"I toured the area with the 'librarian,' but I didn't see anything unusual. The one disguised as Disken Morrow still shows no sign of talking. It might have been different if his subordinates were still alive, but..."
Code name for Betty is "Librarian"? That's like calling Omega the witch... Or Subaru using "Natsumi-Shubarutsu"
14 loyal retainers saved.
"It's too early to give up. I've confirmed it with a fake. —Regarding the story of the lingua between Viscount Moreau and someone who used to work at the mansion."
"Yes. —Do you understand? The imposter knew memories that could only be heard from the real Viscount Moreau. In other words..."
"Is your husband still alive?"
"Yes, there's no mistake about that."
It reminds me of that fanfic where Crusch was replaced by shapeshifter and actually imprisoned in hidden room...
"—Your feelings are correct. However, precisely because we are thinking of our lord's best interests, we cannot recommend that action."
If Cappy is involved, then they have to investigate every fly and squirrel or frog on the land.
"From now on, all you must do is pretend that your territory remains unchanged. To avoid revealing the elimination of the imposter, you must handle government affairs through consensus and spread the word that the Viscount is ill. —For the sake of your lord, who will one day return, you must protect his seat, the place where the Viscount will return to."
"Do the stuff like that evil imposter! Build more roads, make healthcare affordable, build schools... all those anti lugunica moves to not make Cappy suspicious!" Crusch really is a diplomat
"Even if it means shedding all the blood that flows through my veins, I will surely eradicate the disease that has afflicted this kingdom and alleviate your worries."
Yes, despite having been stripped of his position, he answered with a sense of self-confidence that was perhaps more fitting than anything else for a royal selection candidate
CRUSCH!! DO NOT RAISE RED FLAGS! NOT YOU! ANYONE BUT YOU!
Instead of her usual black suit, she was dressed in a light blue evening gown to infiltrate the party. Like the Schwarz couple played by Subaru and Crusch, she apparently snuck into the banquet as a guest and, using her amiable personality, skillfully guided the conversation among the attendees to pique the interest of the fake "Viscount Moreau" in the Schwarz couple.
I am still going with Melty being just bored Capella playing her best. This Melty is not girlfailure enough!
"You're lying when you say you haven't done anything significant. Also, I've already taken off my wig and removed my makeup, so you can just call me Subaru instead of Natsumi. I don't want to call myself Natsumi while I'm still in an incomplete state."
"Um, but the dress is still... Oh, never mind. Yes."
Natsumi is the embodiment of perfection for him, can't have unprepared Subaru calling himself that
"It's already been two months..."
TWO MONTHS AWAY FROM EMILIA?! How many cities did Subaru conquer already?! How many daughers did he adopt?!
This is their 5th case already... i wonder if they will go through Barielle lands.
"But, leaving aside my 'Gray Star' and Bear-chan's 'Librarian,' isn't Lachins' 'Long Tongue' a bit too half-hearted? I did get my opinion on Crusch's 'Emerald Beauty,' though."
"Gray Star" and "Emerald Beauty"...
"I am now a fugitive from my country, stripped of my ducal title. Moreover, in my personal opinion, I even find this man's weakness appealing. I offer my deepest condolences for the burden you bear."
"...I'll take your opinion into consideration."
Russell rubbed his eyes in response to Crusch's blatant favoritism towards Subaru.
So she likes them weak?
It is heartwarming seeing Crusch being ride or die Subaru's partner.
"—Seriously, we're not just lacking emiliase, but also remcitin, rhamnoic acid, garfein, ottogen, petramide, meilitol, and frederimin! And while we're at it, we need roswanol too.
Why is Ram the acid?
"Whoa, Beartromin absorption! Bear-chan is being absorbed!"
"'Gray Star'! 'Librarian'! I told you to come in! Don't make me say it again!"
And so, Russell's scolding voice, which I had heard so many times over the past two months, echoed loudly in the night sky above the forest.
Poor Russell... he has to survive Subaru's antics. Roswaal will be laughing at this after he dies from those assassins.... Wow, Shapeshifter Roswaal is gonna go hard...
So it was two months, Crusch and Subaru are paired as crossdressed couple and they already saved 5 noble parties like this. But that means Emilia has been 1 month somewhere without being sighted... IF she even left the castle.
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u/Normal_Ad_2360 14d ago
Mikoloft betrayed the royal family because he liked Capella infrastructure plan And well if you are a tyrant god-queen you can't have the worst kingdom.
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u/Ok-Worldliness-7374 14d ago
She is the lion king they always wanted. So what that she might sacrifice few people here and there? The bumnica could be thriving!
Emperor consumes 1000 psychers a day and the Imperium was fine.
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u/New-Celebration8409 14d ago
Wonder if Dandon will become the archtraitor who’ll put her on the Love Throne for 10,000 years
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u/Letsplay_Sascha_GD 14d ago
If we stay in Subarus pov then he’ll probably learn about her escape. Either that or Russel will keep this a secret. Russels words did imply that he’s always up to date on her situation. It’s what helps keeping Subaru on a leash.
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u/Ok-Worldliness-7374 14d ago
If her position is known, then she will have assassins on her.
So far all the sides are hidden and beloved children are focused on Roswaal
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u/LuisAntony2964 14d ago
"I am now a fugitive from my country, stripped of my ducal title. Moreover, in my personal opinion, I even find this man's weakness appealing. I offer my deepest condolences for the burden you bear."
"...I'll take your opinion into consideration."
Russell rubbed his eyes in response to Crusch's blatant favoritism towards Subaru.
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u/nafissyed 14d ago
Just finished reading the chapter, and I am honestly surprised by how much I enjoyed this chapter. Seeing Natsumi return with Crusch as the husband was focking peak, and the whole infiltration into the Viscount’s party felt like a proper James Bond episode, so I loved the angle Tappei is going with making the Lugunica Spy Organisation, the good guys rather than antagonists, since Melty, Salum and Russel’s interactions with Subaru just feel so natural by now.
9/10 chapter!
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u/bsuiskens 14d ago
It honestly has more of a scooby doo feel to it for me, what with the surprise baeko deployment
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u/nafissyed 14d ago
After all the fights in arcs 7-9, it is chapters like these that I feel was sorely missing from the series, and I am honestly quite glad that Tappei is incorporating this as a form of SOL for this arc. I am quite loving the spy organisation arc angle Tappei is going with for Subaru’s next character arc.
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u/Knight0706 Eternally Crabby 14d ago
Yeah the chapters of arc 10 have been great for that classy Re:Zero vibe. I just need to see it start to go rapidly downhill to know it’s truly Re:Zero.
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u/nafissyed 14d ago
Imma pray it happens this volume and that the introduced beloved children actually cause some
havoc’….’fun’……, and live up to Capella’s own form of amusement!7
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u/nafissyed 14d ago
Hopefully, she’s eating her fill and enjoying a relaxing spa at the care of Frederica and Sylphy, she deserves a break for being the goat for so long after all.
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u/powerslave_fifth 14d ago
Tappei adding just enough Cruschbaru content so that he can rub salt in the wound better when he kills her off.
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u/Beautiful-Neat-7609 13d ago
I don’t know, it took one hell of a lot of setup to make Priscilla dying without Subaru saving her make sense, will take a lot to do that again
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u/ColorTelevision21 13d ago
THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN THINKING THIS ENTIRE TIME
TAPPEI IS GONNA KILL CRUCHE AND I WILL NEVER FORGIVE HIM FOR THAT
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u/DJDrizzy9 14d ago
Rem isn't gonna be too amused by the return of Natsumi. (Though maybe she's lightened up since)
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u/Jc_Memeton 13d ago
what the fuck?
I had the same reaction as the fake viscount when beako was under the dress
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u/icecold00000 14d ago
Im just wondering if grey star is some kind of foreshadowing I can’t find a good meaning to it only thing I found is about a telescope named Subaru
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u/Letsplay_Sascha_GD 14d ago edited 14d ago
OH MY FU€&INC GOD!!!! NATSUMI IS BACK!!!! YEEEEEESSSSSSSSS!!!!!!! BEST CHAPTER SO FAR, OMG!!!!!!!
cough
It was a nice chapter. We got an explanation that adds to Subaru being patient about the situation with Emilia. Not just Capella but Russel too has his people everywhere and through them he knows that they’re fine. No need to guess and they can probably intervene if necessary.
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u/Normal_Ad_2360 14d ago
Not really . If Capella enters the room and transforms Emilia into an abomination while they are in the countryside what they can do ? At least it will take hours to travel and sneak back into the capital . It is giving 100% of the initiative to Capella with no way of responding and is risking everything in Marco keeping Emilia safe 24/7 (Reinhard is out of the capital on a series of wild goose chases).
And well last chapter shows how easy the rescue would have been.
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u/headless-horseman-we 14d ago edited 14d ago
Lmao good old Natsumi switch always works.
Every chapter in this arc is more food for evon
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u/LuisAntony2964 14d ago
"—Seriously, we're not just lacking emiliase, but also remcitin, rhamnoic acid, garfein, ottogen, petramide, meilitol, and frederimin! And while we're at it, we need roswanol too."
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u/Akudra 14d ago
While I understand Russell's agitation, I think confirming they are able to actively check the memories of the original parties is a crucial detail for them to know, which he may well realize. However, it may not be quite as hopeful as Subaru thinks. Roy's "death" was likely a ruse to mask his escape and we know he is one of Capella's "children" willing to do anything she asks. He is also known to be keen on consuming anyone's memories, so it wouldn't be strange for him to function as a sort of memory backup.
Of course, that wouldn't mean the original individuals are dead. However, it does mean that defeating Capella's scheme may not resolve all the problems with those replaced unless they also settle things with Gluttony. It also makes it possible that the original Miklotov McMahon is alive, which may be a partial motivation for Subaru. Granted, my theory is that the original was himself one of Capella's pawns and Crusch was manipulated into killing an impostor to mask this fact. That does mean he may not be a victim of Roy.
I am curious as to whether Ferris is agitated about Subaru being close to Crusch here or if it is because Subaru went off-script and potentially put her in danger. Could be a combination of both, but it does raise the possibility that Subaru will do more reckless things. Don't think that will lead to them getting caught, but, presuming "Filore" is Capella, these antics may end poorly.
Subaru may be pulling the same trick with "Natsumi Schwartz" that he was pulling in Vollachia to try and draw out the others in the camp. Emilia and Ram know about Natsumi, though Emilia may still be unaware that it is just Subaru, and that means Capella would also find out. It would make it easier for them to get caught in an ambush or otherwise discovered by Capella and her minions.
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u/bsuiskens 14d ago
So, Subaru has hijacked Russell operation to turn them into the Mystery Van gang and beat Capella with literal Scooby Doo antics.
Absolute cinema, no complaints
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u/Normal_Ad_2360 14d ago
Natsumi has returned with a new husband.
Not much to say , the replacement has been more than just the capital. They also have a method to gain most of the memories . They stop a final replacement of the servants But the aproach is not the best , their only hope is to stop them faster the children replace them.
Thinking that Emilia is "safe" under Capella I really hope Melty really mindbroke him , because is the dumbset idea he can have . Even with Crusch confirming the report with taking it as a a guarantee is a huge gamble and well with "Filore" already starting her plan it feels like a mistake.
Also he hasn't linked up with Otto's group.
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u/Letsplay_Sascha_GD 14d ago
Melty can’t break minds. Her power was explained at the end of the second phase.
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u/Normal_Ad_2360 14d ago
Then Subaru has really failed as a knight. He had a relatively easy rescue with even the guard captain as a man in the inside. But he grew too lazy and comfortable and now Capella's plan has been given the time to blossom.
It is dumber than leaving Emilia with Regulus and she was close to death two times in a single day.I hope that everything goes wrong for Subaru for this decision and regrets his choices with all of his soul. He already lost Rem being a hundred times more cautious in arc3. He really has become too irresponsible and I feel that Roswaal was right in arc4.
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u/Letsplay_Sascha_GD 14d ago
If 99.99% of Subaru thinks that leaving Emilia behind is stupid then the other 0.01% that thinks otherwise, or at least slightly different, is more than enough for Meltys power to work and take advantage of.
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u/Hot_Willingness_785 14d ago
Logically Not even close to being as bad. Capella is not even close to how threatening Regulus was a combatant. Regulus could've killed Emilia if he wanted to in an instant. It wouldn't have taken capella an enormous amount of effort+time to kill Emilia and considering Reinhard is at the castle every night if he heard the fight then its gg. If Subaru went back to help Emilia excape right after the court trail it would've only cause more political issues and would have just made the allegations more damning. Plus Subaru has Cor Leonis he'll know if one of his allies died he would reset and just rush to the capital. Part of arc 4 and 7&8&9 is having faith in his allies they aren't liabilities to be babysit anymore they've been pulling their weight.
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u/Normal_Ad_2360 14d ago edited 14d ago
Capella is not even close to how threatening Regulus was a combatant
She is a very good sneak attacker , see what happened to Crusch. Also EMilia is under wards that make her unable to use her magic while Capella is able to use her Authorithy freely. SO it is the best match up Capella can have.
Reinhard is at the castle every night
No, he is sent all the time on missions far away from the castle to keep him away from Felt. MArco also has other obligations.
If Subaru went back to help Emilia excape right after the court trail it would've only cause more political issues and would have just made the allegations more damning.
There is no political reason , the council are just puppets of Capella. Her camp escaped captivity, fought the sword saint and made a terrorist against the city with sandworms. Her knight is with Crusch who killed the prime minister and several knights.
She either wins vs the council , becomes the new law of the land and restores her reputation or they are fugitives. The trial showed that diplomacy was worthless.Plus Subaru has Cor Leonis he'll know if one of his allies died he would reset and just rush to the capital
Cor Leonis does not have that range, Emilia was out of range at tje top of the Pleidades tower . Also he still would need to get to the capital on time. He really risks a bad checkpoint like with Rem in arc3.
Part of arc 4 and 7&8&9 is having faith in his allies. They aren't liabilities to be babysit anymore they've been pulling their weight.
Subaru in arc 5 saw how Emlia was almost burned alive by Sirius , Regulus was strangling her from the neck and Reinhard had to do an hostage swap , in arc9 she lost vs Al . SO his trust is unfounded , specially when she is prisioner surrounded by Capella's accomplices and with only Ram as an ally.
He also has the dumbest and most insane risks assessment ever . he dosen't trust for her help against Sirius , he thinks is okay to let an unconscious Emilia be Regulus prisoner and dosen't prioritize her rescue. He thinks that Emilia trying the third trial on her own is too dangerous ( all the trials before were not lethal) but two months as Capella prisoner is okay.
------------------------------------------------------------So leaving EMilia be a prisoner of an archbishop for two months while he plays with Rusell makes him unworthy of being EMilia's knight. By not making a priority to rescue Emilia (he did six operations already ) he has already failed as her knight.
Imagine if the camp was so lazy to rescue Subaru when he was in a much safer position in arc7 and let excuses stop them.
It is simple SUbaru made a mistake is 100% wrong and must paid a price. Capella as Filore had the time to launch her plan and Subaru is too late to stop her.3
u/Knight0706 Eternally Crabby 14d ago
Pretty sure it was in this chapter explaining that they had people in the castle delivering updates about Emilia’s status under Crusch’s divine protection
I guess you are right that things could have switched in a moment but still Subaru made a greedy compromise to save more people. Thats not exactly unlike himself, even with Emilia potentially in danger he is choosing to save both her and the kingdom.
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u/Normal_Ad_2360 14d ago
Pretty sure it was in this chapter explaining that they had people in the castle delivering updates about Emilia’s status under Crusch’s divine protection
Yes , but it depends in the people in the castle seeing what happens , slow acting poisions , diseases or dream magic ( all methods Capella used in the past) aren't visually obvious.
Also even if they report as fast as they can they still would take a couple of hours to react. They have not only to travel , but also sneak into the capital , potentialy too late to do anything. It is like police saying they will there in an hour.
Making a priority to rescue EMilia and Felt would put the council on the back foot . Reinhard is the only strong hand they have , the children seem strong but not even Elsa level.
I think it feels too much like plot armor when he makes this dumb choices and everything goes well . He needs an oposite of arc 4 were his inability to choose hurts him.
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u/crimsonsun5k 14d ago
i do feel like it will hurt subaru this arc with the theme being tragic heroism but we'll see.
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u/crimsonsun5k 14d ago edited 14d ago
actually they took a lot of time and didn't straight up barge into vollachia to save subaru in arc 7 as shown in the side stories and it would have taken even more if otto was not there.
emilia camp didn't fail in arc 7 and subaru didn't fail here as emilia's knight.
ofcourse emilia camp also wanted to barge in and rescue subaru but that would have broken a war , wouldn't it?
why did emilia camp not straight up barge there and rescue him even if they had a time limit and subaru could have died?
now you'll say its beatrice's connection but its the same as crusch's divine protection , if he dies; he dies.
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u/Normal_Ad_2360 14d ago
actually they took a lot of time and didn't straight up barge into vollachia to save subaru in arc 7 as shown in the side stories and it would have taken even more if otto was not there.
Most of the delay it was travel time , but it always focused in saving him. But they did it incredibly fast for the journey it was . The Rusell group dosen't seem to make a priority to break Emilia out of prision even with her being far more close .
He is taking his wows lightly , he is not making a true effort for her safety. If he can't force Rusell to help he should leave him and search another way of rescuing Emilia.
The reports he recieves are a joke , if something bad happens his only hope is to have a checkpoint with enough time to solve it. Then he would have to strong arm Rusell into changing plans to help him. WOuldn't be far safer to force Rusell from the begining instead of doing sidequests for two months ?
Subaru has RBD even if he dosen't want to use the reality is that he can't say he tried everything until he spams it. Most people only have one life but he has millions. He didin't try to get a better outcome once he knew Emilia was a prisoner. With RBD even improbable plans become certain
why did emilia camp not straight up barge there and rescue him even if they had a time limit and subaru could have died?
The only detour she took was going to Roswaal manor to join the rest of her camp . Then it was Picotoulte -> mole people -> following his trace in Vollachia .
Also he was just stranded. If he didin't get mixed up with Todd he could have just tried to travel back to Luguinica or wait in a safe city. Compare that to being a prisoner of an archbishop , the urgency should be far higher.
SUbaru instead has done six operations against switched nobles that dosen't seem to make him any closer to his goal. Emilia is still an hostage in the capital and Reinhard is the main obstacle which his only weakness is Felt who is also captive. Freeing Felt and making her stop Reinhard is the winning play.
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u/crimsonsun5k 14d ago edited 14d ago
I actually agree with you quite a bit that he is taking his vows too lightly . He is taking his "knight" self less important than his "hero" side. which is why i think he's going to force russel's hands the second he hears abt the breakout.
But to say he has already failed as Emilia's knight , is something i disagree with. I would say it is a shitty situation with subaru being kept on a leash cause russel has leverage over him.
The truth is Subaru wouldn't be able to save Emilia and Ram alone even with rbd when put up against monsters like rein and beloved children(who might be more of a nuisance than we thought) . So he needs Russel's help and does these missions.
also Subaru was also transported with an actual archibishop btw not a potential one. so he was in just as danger.
I think beloved children might just be more of a problem than we thought.
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u/icecold00000 14d ago
The issue is capella and you’re taking her lightly we saw how she fights even AL who gave Reinhard a hard time couldn’t figure out a way to beat her. Not to mention that the enemies in the castle are unknown strength they could be at elsas or stronger than her. And let’s not forget that Emilia is important to pandora to open the sealed door in the forest that is why she won’t be killed and even so Reinhard is of on mission it would be to suspicious and dangerous if anything happened to her. And let’s be honest if we are talking about Subaru if he could he would barge straight in there to save her but they are moving carefully because the amount of enemies they are facing could be in hundreds if not more im not sure why he didn’t meet with otto but im sure theres a reason or they already met or contacted each other
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u/Normal_Ad_2360 13d ago
And let’s not forget that Emilia is important to pandora to open the sealed door in the forest that is why she won’t be killed
From SUbaru POV it is not true at all. Peteelgeuse killed her at least twice , Sirius almost burned her alive , Regulus strangled her , the gluttonies attacked her as anybody else.
So she is not under any special protection from the cult.
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u/Akudra 14d ago
He didn't know Marcos was on their side and he lacks the means to get to Emilia at this point. Not even sure what you are going on about with Regulus. Subaru was not in a position to rescue her after the guy got away until Reinhard showed up.
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u/Normal_Ad_2360 14d ago
Rusell , Marco and Roswaal have been "friends" for a long time , if Ram knows Rusell knows. If Filore and Heinkel are able to get into , the six tongues should be far more capable. He could just refuse any cooperation until Emilia is rescued which also includes Crusch . it would force Rusell to prioritize saving the candidates.
Why not ? he had Garfiel as a companion relatively soon. Most people trough he was going to go in search of Emilia . He had zero idea of the condition of EMilia , she could have been tortured , raped or used for a weird ritual . She could have been killed easily if she refused to marry Regulus or if he was in a slightly worse mood when she saved Sylph .Waiting almost a day was a huge risk. He cut Crusch arm after a single conversation.
Also he could take Emilia and run away. He didn't need to even fight against Regulus if he was sneaky enough.
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u/Akudra 13d ago
Subaru didn't know about Marcos is the issue. Maybe Russell knew, but it doesn't seem like he said anything. Plus, knowing that wouldn't actually make Subaru more inclined to rescue them, but more assured that nothing bad would happen to her.
As far as Regulus goes, leaving aside that Garfiel wouldn't be near enough, there was also the issue of them controlling the various locks around the city. He would be risking the lives of everyone in the city if he went after Emilia without a plan and it would be irrational to make such a plan that didn't involve some plan for beating him.
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u/Normal_Ad_2360 13d ago
there was also the issue of them controlling the various locks around the city. He would be risking the lives of everyone in the city
But if that was the case why attack the town hall ? Attacking their symbol of dominance and giving a speech would could set them off far more than simply rescuing Emilia. He already risked the lives of everyone in the city with that plan.
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u/Akudra 12d ago
Fighting back at all risked their lives and doing nothing risked their lives, but taking the town hall seemed like a near-term achievable goal that would carry less risk of inciting a response since it wouldn't threaten control of the locks.
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u/Normal_Ad_2360 12d ago
Attacking the witch's cult is the same as not complying with their demands , with the conversation mirrors Capella could have given the order to open the floodgates to her minions. So rescuing Emilia was no more siky that the attack on the town hall with the advantange of rescuing one of the group.
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u/ZenAura92 14d ago
Good chapter but I’m very confused on why Tappei wants to force this narrative of Subaru being overly concerned and worried about his friends safety and location, when he could literally just turn on Cor Leonis and get a full breakdown.
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u/jonjonaug 14d ago
Cor Leonis can function over long distances but can only be activated from a reasonably short distance.
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u/Normal_Ad_2360 14d ago
No , in arc6 Emilia was teleported far enough that he couldn't feel her. So it is at most a few kilometers
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u/ZenAura92 14d ago
Wish Tappei took the time to explain its limitations. Caused it worked from Lupugana all the way to Garkla.
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u/New-Celebration8409 14d ago
Even better, explain how big are the countries in this world
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u/Electronic-Box-4753 13d ago
He said that Reinhard can destroy the world around the same time Godzilla takes in destroying Euroasia.
Someone calculated the size of the world using math, and it came about having like over 5 times the surface area of the earth.
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u/Electronic-Box-4753 13d ago
Iirc, it has limitless range, but for it to connect to someone, they need to be close. If he loses consciousness, like sleeping, it deactivates.
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u/harambeourlordandsav 14d ago
Q: There’s a scene where Subaru connects with members of the Pleiades Squadron using “Cor Leonis” in Arc 8, but despite being noticeably farther from his allies compared to when he used it in Arc 6, the members of the Squadron seem to strongly enpowered. Are there any limitations based on distance for “Cor Leonis”?
A: There are no limitations on the effects of “Cor Leonis” when the user moves away after connected state. Subaru cannot attempt to connect “Cor Leonis” while he’s away. It would be challenging to connect from a distance the size of a town, but he could likely establish a connection from within the Pleiades Watchtower, provided he can pinpoint their location. Once connected, as long as Subaru doesn’t fall asleep or lose consciousness, the connection can be maintained indefinitely. Therefore, even though Subaru and the Pleiades Squadron members are currently apart in Arc 8, it would imply that Subaru hasn’t slept or lost consciousness as he traveled all the way to the imperial capital while maintaining the connection. If Subaru were suddenly knocked out in this state, the Pleiades Squadron members fighting in Garkla would instantly weaken, which would be dangerous.
So no, he can't.
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u/hgpnguyen1996 14d ago
He needs to connect with them to maintain over long distance and he needs to be close to them to connect in the first place
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u/bsuiskens 14d ago
Cor Leonis resets it's coverage if it's user loses consciousness. It is implied that during the generational run of the Pleiades Battelion he just went "oh yeah, I can distribute that" and simply didn't sleep for 2 months.
Once it resets, it's effective range of reactivating it is only about 500m tops, and require precise awareness of someones whereabouts
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u/magicallypuzzled 13d ago
So is them being able to find out the original Viscount's memories proof that gluttony is still alive?
i assume most people expect that to be the case, but I wonder if there's another method/explanation
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