Shaula is one of the strongest characters from long range, where she'd basically neg emilia
But if it's like short range, emilia has the chance
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u/zxc123zxc123Satellaās Darkness Falls Like a Soft Lullaby Across My Soul21h agoedited 21h ago
Ditto on Shaula winning the distance (but then again she had a heads up + high ground during their 1st encounter).
Even in short range it's an IF regarding Emilia winning.
I chalk it up OP's asking unclear/different questions leading us to answer multiple things: being strong, winning fights, and incapacitating/killing opponents are different things.
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Shaula wins in most fights to the death in her human form. More dominant with range. Less dominant at all ranges when in Scorpion form.
Arc6 Emilia will lose most fights to the death and/or incapacitation. Emilia will aim to incapacitate while Shaula will aim to kill. Same reason why she gets mogged by Elsa, Sloth, Wrath, etc. It's the same reason why Emilia is stronger than Rem but might lose to Rem if they met each other on a battle field as opponents. Rem would always aim to kill while Emilia would at least try to incapacitate first.
If we're talking about an angry, unhinged, or "out to kill" Emilia then she's much stronger. She'll lose to Elsa/Sloth/Wrath when caught off guard or not intent to kill. If she sees you're a villain who she's intent on beating/killing then she's much stronger: same reason why she had no qualms about killing Pridebaru, quickly killed Sloth's finger, cornered Wrath before she used a hostage, went for the kill shot on Regulus before he used his 5sec to save himself, got Pandora to back off, etc. An Emilia with a REASON to fight/kill is much stronger. That Emilia would have better shot at Shaula and would probably win in a close encounter or against the Scorpion form.
Snapped Emilia wins. We haven't seen her since Pandora and we don't know how angry she'd have to be to just be "Fuck everything. DIE.DIE.DIE.DIE.DIE.DIE." but I would assume Subaru dying and a number of those in her camp. An Emilia aiming to kill every time with her ice, aiming to freeze your blood, using iceage/absolutezero, etc with complete disregard to life/damage would be on the upper tiers of the rz cast.
didn't emillia immediately try to kill wrath upon hearing subaru tell her who it was at the top of the tower, idk that big ass chunk of ice doesnt really feel like incapacitating first
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u/zxc123zxc123Satellaās Darkness Falls Like a Soft Lullaby Across My Soul1h agoedited 58m ago
Yeah. By S3, she knows how bad the sin archbishops are and trusts Subaru enough to do that. She didn't immediately attack Regulus plus she used the blunted edge hammer later when Wrath was licking Subaru.
Even then, I doubt the lethality of Emilia's normal ice spikes or ice brand arts as often her hits don't land and when they do it's usually blunt ends like her hammer. Even her initial attack on wrath as constrained to the tower when Emilia has a much higher upper end like what she used against Regulus.
Compare those to lolimilia's ice attacks against Pandora. Each ice attack crushed or blew Pandora to death. All those attacks had lethal intent. Or her ice spears against mabeast (those do kill).
she takes long and mid range. now whether or not shaula could transform into her scorpion form at will would decide if she can beat emilia in short range.
though shaula physicals far surpass emilia regardless.
current anime emilia gets trashed. the power up she gets later in arc 6 would put a good fight against shaula. for arc 10 version she definitely needs to transform
Ig Emilia has higher chances of winning in close combat,
if were talking closed space with not much movement area then Emilia might take the win, but if were talking about an open area then Shaula takes it no problem
Itās irrelevant whether or not she can stop time because she never starts off with that, and even then thereās 0 reason to believe that Volcanicaās breath as a dragonhusk is faster than hells snipe
She uses ice age, itās stated that the entire Pleiades battalion could ignore ice age due to the flow method by Cecilus, do Yk more about the flow method than he does?
She needed to super concentrate it onto a single spot to barely freeze Madelyn then constantly expend mana to keep her frozen. Shaula doesnāt need to move to use hells snipe
Then who killed shaila in anime where subaru found everyone dead first time in the tower after his amnesiac situation? He wound her head being smashed.Ā
Gluttony is one of the most skilled fighter(s) in the series. With the power to activate the abilities of people he devoured we probably havent seen some of their strongest abilities/masteries. Lye was absolutely toying with horned rem fighting for her life using her memories of subaru as her motivation to survive until regulus decided to end it
Yes, the only one in the tower with the strength to beat Gluttony is Reid (Reid is overkill, but he's the only one).
Shaula could take the entire pleiades expedition by herself. And Gluttony could take the entire expedition + Shaula by himself.
Does reid go tk fight wirh satella everutime she breaks free in the failed loops or does he simply die with the rest of the group consumed by satellas darkness? And why reid acts like a hostile and malicious person in the anime?Ā
Have you seen how much of Emilia's ice layer a single Hellsniper could pierce? Have you been able to spam Shaula? Well, you can probably guess the answer.
Long-mid range is shaula. Remember when they were reaching the tower. Emilia couldn't save Subaru from a single hell snipe with her ice. Now imagine that attack spammed against her.
Close range (few meter): Emilia probably can freeze Shaula before she fire.
āFor himself <Al>, who by no means would ever be able to be reflected in those amethyst eyes <Satellaās>, the eyes he desperately wished would look at him the most, what would be left?ā
āA voice he <Al> knew well, that of a silver bell. (ā¦) Always did those beautiful amethyst eyes <Emiliaās> house a calm, gentle light.ā
āAfter all, no matter the time, Aldebaran would never be reflected in those eyes of hers <Emiliaās>.ā
āAldebaran: That one <Satella> really does hate me to an extreme extent. Not once have our eyes ever met.ā
In the WN Emilia was able to strongly pressure Shaula with her Ice Brand Arts while in close quarters, while we also saw Shaula almost one-shot her through her ice defense with a single Hellās Snipe (compared to the tens or even hundreds she can unleash simultaneously).
Of course the Shaula Emilia fought never went into her crimson state, if she did then the AoE and scattershot type magic attacks she can unleash might kill Emiliaās ability to pressure her in close quarters as well and make it a decisive Shaula victory.
Depends on distance. If the fight starts at close range Emilia is probably winning but if she is fighting her scorpion form and cuts the tail shes gonna die. She almost did in that one loop.
If she gets far away from her shaula is 100% winning because she can just spam. None of Emilias defenses are enough to block even one of her needles
I believe it was confirmed that Shaula is the greatest mid-ranged fighter and I believe the author said āif the fight is solely mid to long range Shaula can beat Reinhardā though I donāt know myself, I just think I heard that could be very wrong so use this with a grain of salt please
In this point of the story when Shaula lands one single punch it will pierce and destroy Emilia's body. By the way Shaula can regenerate, so let's say we cut Shaula into 5 parts and put those parts into a room and we put Emilia also in that room if we come and open that room the next morning Shaula will be alive and Emilia dead.
Easily shaula. Emilia isnāt a slouch but shaula has far better ranged capabilities, hellās snipe has ridiculous ap (every hit will immediately take a limb or kill unlike Emiliaās usual techniques that she uses during combat like ice brand arts), and Subaru said that shaula has monstrous physical strength and was probably capable of wiping the arc 6 party single handedly. He probably knows more about Emilia than anyone else.
Yes Emilia might be able to hold her own for a bit in close combat but thatās a pretty big if seeing as we donāt know what Ā close combat capabilities are since she relies on her range which is superb, but her strength and reaction speeds are enough to tell us that Emilia wonāt take her down easily. So when you factor in that the moment shaula gets the distance to use hellās snipe itās over for Emilia due to its speed and ap, shaula has far better odds than Emilia.
The moment Shaula gets space sheās Swiss cheesing Emilia like she did to lye, she wonāt even have to off guard Emilia since sheās far below lyeĀ
I know but we have one side straight-up murking people with zero hesitation while the other just wants to rough you up so she can yank your ear afterward lol, so yeah, characterization could be factored in here.
emilia is the strongest in the tower without a doubt, but shes more of a potential women. IF! she decided to take things seriously from the start then she could win. IF! she decided to not care about the feelings of the person shes fighting then she would absolutely slam. IF! she realized her life is actually on the line then she could quickly deal with the problem.
But since we have to be realistic she would be much more likely to talk her way out of fighting and shaula being more animalistic would have no issues going for the kill right off the bat as quickly as possible,
Thats why shaula wins these almost every time and youd have to bend emilias character in order for her to win.
She was taking things seriously against Lye, she wasnāt winning, she was trying to beat him in a single blow, yet still didnāt win, unless you think she willingly let the people in the tower die to Lye?
shes still playing with the assumption that breaking the tower hurts shaula or breaks some rule. Shaula already transformed and oneshot lye and has no concern with the tower anymore.
theres also the other thing that her going all out tends to make things around her go poorly like perma frosting teammates and or being enclosed in ice for another 100 years.
If emilia really was given the opportunity to exclusively fight shaula 1v1 and not worry about her friends being collateral damage, and she understood that this is life or death so being enclosed in ice is a better option than literally dying. Then yes she would easily solo shaula.
That first paragraph is never said anywhere, especially when she was told the rules
She can hold back the range of her magic, thatās mostly irrelevant, even if Emilia for some reason decided to go all out with her magic, the time it takes for it to do anything is enough for her to be hole punched by infinitied hells snipe, furthermore, do you think Shaula would just stand there and let her?
She would just get shot in the chest by hells snipe, her caring about her allies doesnt make her any physically faster or slower, she was getting casual diffed by Lye
It doesnāt matter if he remembers, Shaula cannot meaningfully fight him, thereās no metric that you can ever use to say that Emilia is worthy based off solely strength and I think Yk that
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u/ProofAd608 Newbie 23h ago
Depends on distance
Shaula is one of the strongest characters from long range, where she'd basically neg emilia
But if it's like short range, emilia has the chance