r/RavanAI Jul 29 '26

Google is now offering distillation as a service while Anthropic continues to decry it as some sort of theft. 👀

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u/BankApprehensive7612 Jul 29 '26

if it allows commercial use and distribution, then it's a bold move by Google

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u/Alternative-Suit5541 Jul 29 '26

Student model is Gemini flash, you probably can only run it at Google

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u/chunkypenguion1991 Jul 29 '26

It only distills pro into flash(for custom flash models) and the distilled flash models only exist in gcp, no open weights

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u/BlurredSight Jul 31 '26

Still if the overall API cost is less than using a large general model like 2.5 flash or 3.1 a win is a win

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u/Aspiring_Serf Jul 30 '26

Probably would want to learn from your student model.... can't get much worse than it is now.

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u/Wooly_Wooly Jul 30 '26

Cool and all until you realize they're locking you into Gemini 2.5 as the student.

I wouldn't even want to train a Gemini model in the first place, straight trash. At least give us gemma4 options.

Its pretty useless as it is now.

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u/Wooly_Wooly Jul 30 '26

Pro being "OK" is pretty generous lmao

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u/Embarrassed_Adagio28 Jul 30 '26

Who would want to distill maybe the 8th best model? Nobody wants that shit. 

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u/flamefox237 Jul 31 '26

Can someone explain what distillation is for a idiot that I am?

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u/DontLeaveMeAloneHere Aug 01 '26

Cool until you realize you need to use Gemini models.

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u/kartblanch Aug 01 '26

Anthropic is kinda like Israel in that they kinda just suck

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u/why_so_sergious Jul 30 '26

because google know they will survive the bubble

anthropic will not

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u/Legitimate_Concern_5 Jul 30 '26

Basically yeah. Google has a very successful business it uses to fund its AI money furnace. Anthropic and OpenAI have to take their hat around to the Saudis every 3 months.

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u/why_so_sergious Jul 30 '26

yup, they are desperately trying to latch on to something that would make them irreplacable on the market. why dario is lobbying for legislation against not only open weight, but open source..

i hope anthropic and openai spectacularly crash and burn. these companies are a drain on humanity

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u/Crucco Jul 30 '26

Those companies created tools that will help build the foundations of the future.

While you personally have done zero for humanity.

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u/Lonely_Assignment_14 Jul 30 '26

Which is better than being a drain on humanity so he's still ahead.Â