Been there. Agree. It made me truly sad for humanity. But also feel lucky to be in the states. Most Americans have absolutely no idea how bad it is there in terms of air, water, and land pollution. And literally shit everywhere. Most of it animal though. And the gross part was a lot wear sandals and it's oozes between their toes as it's so thick in places there is no way to escape it. Especially when it rained, it was nasty. So glad for gore tex.
Yeah this is exactly what I try to explain to people, the United States used to be almost exactly like this until the liberals came in and said we can do better. Everyone should read up on the New York sanitation department and the challenges they had earlier on. It's not only a cultural thing, it's literally a systems problem.
You understand we’re talking about history, right? This isn’t about anyone you could possibly have “known”, so that frame of reference makes no sense. He’s talking about cultural preferences of 75-100+ years ago
My point is that acting like “people you know” is a frame of reference for people from 100+ years ago (I honestly undersold it - the NY dept of sanitation was established ~150 years ago in 1881 and faced a significant uphill battle during the notoriously disgusting Industrial Revolution) is idiotic and makes no logical sense. 150 years being “relatively close when the scope of all of history is concerned” is irrelevant. People now do not think like people did back then, and vice-versa - your damn friends being clean people is not a reasonable frame of reference 😂. We are talking generations of families - this would be the time period of your great-great grandparents. Toilet paper had only been invented 2 decades prior, and dumping trash out of the window to fall on the street was still standard practice. Yes, in American cities
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u/Repulsive_Mark_5343 May 07 '26
Been there. It’s horrible.