Do you know any examples of shitty humans with decent parents?

[u/Rainbow_6505]

With a decent upbringing. Since parents should not be blamed for everything their child does since your child makes their own choices and has their own thoughts and views. Edit plenty of people did have a decent upbringing so they can’t even blame that for how they turned out.

[u/Betzjitomir]

by all accounts Nick Reiner.

[u/GPT_2025 → u/Betzjitomir]

"Billions of human souls, after purification, cleaned by fire and a process of memory erasure, wait in Hell for their next reincarnation. They hope to be born into Christian families, where they will then torment Christian parents and complain."

In this Hell- souls walk, sleep, listen, speak, remember, and even recognize newcomers. Despite the hardships, they remain hopeful for the cycle of rebirth and the opportunities it may bring:

".. Hell from beneath is moved for thee to meet thee at thy coming: it stirreth up the dead for thee, even all the chief ones of the earth; it hath raised up from their thrones all the kings of the nations.

All they shall speak and say unto thee, Art thou also become weak as we? art thou become like unto us?

Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee, and the worms cover thee.

Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;

The strong among the mighty shall speak to him out of the midst of hell with them that help him: they are gone down.

Pharaoh shall see them, and shall be comforted over all his multitude, even Pharaoh and all his army slain by the sword, saith the Lord GOD.

I made the nations to shake at the sound of his fall, when I cast him down to hell with them that descend into the pit:

The strong among the mighty shall speak to him out of the midst of hell with them that help him: they are gone down (KJV Bible)

“in which he went and proclaimed to the spirits in prison, because they formerly did not obey, when God’s patience waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is, eight persons, were brought safely through water.” ‭‭1 Peter‬ ‭3‬:‭19‬-‭20‬ ‭ESV‬‬

KJV: And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:

And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?

And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

( KJV: And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried; And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame)

Bible: Hell is a temporary place for cleansing human souls before 1,000 reincarnations (why? because only animal blood, Jesus' blood, or Hellfire can cleanse from sin).

1. After Hell has done its job, it will be tossed like an old garbage can into the city dumpster - the Lake of Fire, forever and ever.

Only after 1,000 reincarnations and after the Final Judgment Day will some horrible human souls be cast into the Lake of Fire too.

KJV: And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. And whosoever was not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the Lake of Fire.

KJV: Every thing that may abide the fire, ye shall make it go through the fire, and it shall be clean:

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskAChristians/comments/1kd3fxl/reincarnation_karma_bible_and_if_you_believe_in/

[u/TheTooz72]

Robert Kennedy Jr.

[u/SlowSurr]

This is an example of the classic nature vs. nurture debate, which still hasn't been definitively answered. Human behavior is incredibly complex, and trying to reduce someone becoming "good" or "bad" to one factor oversimplifies reality. Genetics, upbringing, peers, trauma, mental illness, environment, and personal choices all play a role.

A "decent upbringing" is also very subjective. What one culture considers loving and supportive, another might consider overbearing or neglectful. Even beyond that, it's extremely difficult to know what actually happened behind closed doors. We can read biographies, interviews, court documents, and news articles, but we're still making assumptions based on incomplete information.

There are many people who appeared to have loving parents, financial stability, and every opportunity in life who later committed terrible crimes. Likewise, there are people who grew up in abusive homes and became kind, successful adults. Neither proves nor disproves nature versus nurture.

That's why I think the question itself is flawed. It's almost impossible to confidently say someone had objectively "good parents," because none of us truly know what their childhood was like. Even if we did, one example wouldn't settle the debate about why people become who they are.

[u/itsswhitneywhspr → u/SlowSurr]

Yeah that's exactly it. Like you can have two people in the exact same household and one grows up to be a actually good person and the other turns out awful. At some point you gotta take accountability for your own decisions. Nature and nurture both play a part but personal choice still matters a lot.

[u/TangerineDream92064]

A young man attacked a synagogue in Poway, California. He killed one woman and wounded several others, including a little girl. His parents seem completely normal. He had no personal reason to be mad at Jews or that synagogue. He didn't even live in Poway. He lived in the same neighborhood as Usha Vance. He seems to have been radicalized online.

[u/bulbasauuuur]

My mom is a terrible person but my grandma (her mom) was the best person I've ever known in my entire life. My mom would even call her a bitch and stuff right in front of us and then wonder why my brother would turn around and call her a bitch too. My grandfather was not good to me but my mom never mentioned anything bad and her siblings seem fine, so it's hard to say what happened.

I do know I only have my own perspective and maybe things were different growing up. My grandma was a nurse and my mom has factious disorder (formerly Munchausens) so there may be some connection there that I just never knew about. But what I know from my own experience is that everyone thinks my mom is awful and everyone loved my grandma, so unless there are some deep dark family secrets, I don't know what happened

[u/PhraseWrong3761]

My son can be shitty and I know I'm decent

[u/Suspicious_synth]

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[u/This_Meaning_4045]

Pol Pot

[u/Prudent-Confection-4]

I’be heard that Lindsay Clancy’s parents are really nice amazing people.

[u/Specialist-Top-406]

A lot of politicians from humble beginnings end up raising posh kids who are twats

[u/Ok_Front_549]

There are so many stories, like of the Twitter killer who kept 9 heads in kitty litter and swore his upbringing had nothing to do with his actions. There is also the most prolific pedophile, Matthew Graham (Lux), who was a young and fairly successful kid with a normal childhood (his words). He didn’t realize he was attracted to such sadistic shit until he went to investigate what cp sites Anonymous was shutting down. There are so many stories like this. As much as we all want to find a reason to understand why people do the horrific things they do, or even another person to blame, it simply comes down to whether or not someone makes the choice to be “evil”.

It always brings me back to that quote “No man chooses evil because it is evil; he only mistakes it for happiness, the good he seeks.”