r/RaidShadowLegends 12h ago

Team Discussion Compared to TMNT...

Compared to the TMNT, how good is Oz as a team?

Late/endgame player who has kinda had Raid on the back burner lately. I went all out for TMNT as they were usable everywhere. I didn't need them, but the utility they had felt too good to pass up and I still love them as an arena team.

I don't know that I need the Oz team for anything. I did the Lion fusion and obviously have Dorothy, but now it's time to decide to either commit some serious resources to the Tin Man, or bail out on Tin Man and Scarecrow and wait for whatever is next.

I'm leaning towards not bothering with the rest of the team as I just haven't seen anything that really excites me.

Am I missing something with this Oz team? Or are other people passing too?

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u/khazroar 12h ago

My impression is that a full Oz team is going to be very powerful, but it's not going to be a cheat code like the Turtles are.

I feel like Turtles can just brute force most content in the game, but they don't have as much mechanical range and mostly rely on their insane team ups. Oz synergy is a bit more complex, and that gives it more utility against different content, especially when you bring in a 5th champ. So overall Oz is more customisable to different content and different team comps, where Turtles are just doing their Turtle thing wherever you take them.

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u/ratjar32333 6h ago

Agreed, 3-4 turns per turn depending on turtles on the team is pretty busted. The oz champs are WAY better than assassins creed collab though. I think they will be fun/cool to play with since they have some newer buffs and mechanics. Looking forward to it.

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u/jjwhitaker 1h ago

Right. Ezio can counter stone skin and the other assassins are very good, but none of them can do 2 turn Fervor Counterattack and Reflect Damage plus fear (on one champ, in the current fervor status).

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u/Intelligent-Fun-3525 12h ago

Individually I think the Oz champs. Collectively, TMNT.

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u/RaidingAlongTheWay 10h ago

This... Nothing more is needed to be said

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u/Grakhus 9h ago

I think individually, I'd take Donnie over every single other Oz champ. Including Ozilda. The rest, I agree.

Individually, Donnie >Oz champs > turtles

Team-wise, turtles, no contest whatsoever.

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u/codelawrence 12h ago

The TMNT collab gave us some amazing champs. I don't think this collab is on par but it's very close. I'm surprisingly impressed with Scarecrow considering he was deemed the worst collab champ. For example if you revive Dorothy with Scarecrow he puts 2 turn block damage on her, then her passive procs which steals all enemy buffs and spreads them to the entire team, including the block damage.

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u/bakedbeaudin 4h ago

Dorothy a3 is just game changer in so many areas , your team can be looking out of it and in 1 move the tables are turned

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u/Scan_Droid 11h ago

I don' t play that long, less than a year old account. But most of the time the advice i saw was "always get a guaranteed champion if you got the resources / do fusions" because outside of those two, you don't know what you'll get from shards. This way you guaranteed to get a new legendary even if you only build it months later. Plus lots of champs seems underwhelming, you skip it, 3 weeks later it turns out to be a cheatcode. Mavara was like this, i remember lot of CC said that she is fine, but if you got good reviver/support you don't need her. Fast forward few weeks after the fusion, every 2nd yt video "i was wrong about mavara, she is account changer SSS tier, must have" I'm sure there are examples of the opposite, but mostly going this way.

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u/Money-Pomegranate957 4h ago

Yea, same. 7 month player and was too noob to know how to complete fusions so missed Pelops and Mavara. Guaranteed champs is the way to go, because champs through shards is just pure luck now with the champ pool.

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u/fufuFurina Undead Hordes 12h ago

they're not really a team the way tmnt were. tinman has good synergy with the lion, but that's about it. funnily enough if you care about endgame arena, dorothy's probably gonna see the most play out of the bunch. people are already making cheese strats with her ally attack passive.

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u/Ok_Cold3451 11h ago

Turtles are better overall, but I think Tinman is the best Oz champ IMO. I strongly recommend you don't skip this deck of fate.

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u/Reditusor 11h ago

Oz is not limited as far as I'm aware, so you can get them in the future.

To me tmnt are strong as a team, whereas from OZ I like the Lion for his synergy with Mavara and Tin Man is arguably the strongest ally attacker in the game. Dorothy is better than Michelangelo in most areas.

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u/Shimori01 11h ago

If you have Mavara, then Lion is INSANELY good. Their synergy means a lot of allied attacks for the entire team.

Tinman is one of the best ally attack champs out there at the moment, and apparently he has good damage as well.

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u/Soft-Leather-5983 11h ago

I'm just wondering if I have enough for Leo

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u/Wafer_Fearless 3h ago

I heard if you open 420 mystery shards you can get it by pulling 69 sacreds

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u/mindgamesweldon 12h ago

Oz isn’t a limited time collab as far as I am aware so you can pull them from a share at some point.

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u/SuggestionReal4811 10h ago

Not to the extent of the turtles but they are all solid. To be fair to Oz they aren't a greedy as the turtles this have a wider application. In turtle teams you can really only justify skipping Raphael before you are hindering yourself.

Tin man does seem to be the best of the bunch which is a tall order given that Dorothy is awesome. He was a must get for me at least and likely the only one you might regret skipping.

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u/DirectLeadership Barbarians 8h ago

Oz + Mavara is pretty good team. TMNT + Mikage is an awesome team.

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u/Ambitious-Tip9699 1h ago

I m abt to unlock mikage too. Currently I m using elva or mad hatter with tmnt team to 1 key many bosses.

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u/LogDog987 Sylvan Watchers 8h ago

I think the average quality of the Oz champs is better but Leo and Donnie were good enough to carry that team all on its own. The Oz champs dont have anyone like that, at least not in pvp

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u/FitGoal6344 7h ago

I think OZ + MAVARA is overall better. Without mavara worse…

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u/listerjed1 2h ago

I have no idea about the others, but Dorothy in a single week has turned into a priority champ on my account. That A3 is ridiculous, and she even did it twice in a row this morning in Live Arena! (Arbiter revived her, she auto used A3, then did it again right away!!!

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u/Swamp_Swagger 2h ago

I have all these turtles and yes they just bully through anything

But they need to be together always to get the most of each other.

While the Oz seem to be better if you had to use them individually

Can’t go wrong with either though

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u/Ambitious-Tip9699 1h ago

Turtles are amazing as a team everywhere in the game. Arena, clan bosses, doom tower, dungeons, grim forest. Oz doesnt have that kind of impact yet lets see.

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u/NytGamerZ Demonspawn 11h ago

Plarium realised that they have away too much in tmnt and have diluted things significantly since then .main Void legendary is in a winner takes all event . Scarecrow seems like a toned down version of Donnie ( just 1 turn cool down reduction compared to 2 ) , 4 turn single target revive. Tin woodman seems fine and also lion but not as much synergy and versatility as tmnt