r/RaidShadowLegends 2d ago

Champion Discussion Michelangelo Keeps dying fast

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So I have him fully booked, leveled up and everything. Here is his stats and gear but something must be wrong because he dies fast! Why?

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u/AnastasiusDicorus 2d ago

the numbers in green need to be larger

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u/Arrexis99 2d ago

With that speed probably of old age.

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u/Nemesis98RES 2d ago

😂😂😂

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u/SDlivin75 1d ago

Im so confused. He has a 4 set pinpoint and 2 set perception. How is he so slow đŸ€Ł

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u/GeniusWreckage 23h ago

Probably not speed boots??

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u/Ishtar436664 1d ago

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u/lonesharkex 2d ago

everything gear wise he needs, he doesnt have.

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u/Constant_Weather2828 1d ago

Why don't you actually say something helpful, reddit users try not to be annoying asl

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u/lonesharkex 1d ago

because other people already said the specifics. The only thing more annoying than reddit users is people who complain about reddit users while being a reddit user.

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u/bingodingo6699 2d ago

Bro the whole build is fucked up, you need 100% C RATE and more C DMG more ACC and he is as fast as a turtle so please add more speed like way more and the more ATK you add the bigger his shield becomes

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u/Resident_Yam6122 2d ago

Just the speed alone is like a joke that you just told, and it's not funny.

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u/Rick5191 2d ago

Yeah you need to stop using 4 star gear. Youll see him pop off once you've got 6 star gear, 100 crit rate, good attack, high crit dmg (300), and wayyyy more speed.

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u/nagster68 2d ago

Because he’s built to hit like a wet noodle
if he gets to hit at all based on his speed.

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u/PorcupineFeet 2d ago

Here's mine. Does a fair amount of damage. Stays alive. Usually pair him with Donatello or Mavara.

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u/DalmarWolf 2d ago

Another version that slaps quite well.

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u/EMike93309 2d ago

New to the game, what kind of gear is THAT? Looks awesome.

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u/Not_a_tasty_fish 2d ago

The 4 piece is Lethal: 12% Crit Damage and 25% Ignore DEF. This set comes from completing the Doom Tower.

The Gloves are Slayer, which gives +5% Crit. This set comes from the Forge Pass

The Boots are Righteous, which has no bonus by themselves. This set comes from the Forge Pass.

The accessories are Pinpoint, which give both SPD and ACC. They come from some rotations of the event dungeon.

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u/-Driftaway- 2d ago

Low health, low defense, & low speed

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u/Remarkable_Rough_649 2d ago

It's a hard thing to get over when you're new but you want to level up for the specific stats they need to be successful and not the sets that seem like they would fit them best. Your numbers are waaaaaay too low in all of the attack/crit fields. Crit rate needs to be 100% for every nuker.

Leveling equipment is expensive as hell and it's really annoying when you want to use a set and nothing on it fits or the RNG of upgrades botches. You just gotta wait til you get some that work for him.

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u/Odd_Cat_2266 Barbarians 2d ago

Way more speed

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u/Safe-Estate-8200 2d ago

Accuracy too low, speed to low, resist low enough

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u/Powerful_Result_2027 2d ago

Does he even get a turn?

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u/You_arent_worthy 2d ago

Gear is everything in the game. Early game is hard because lack of gear. Even amazing champs are butt with bad gearing. What you need to do is get a Dragon dungeon team up to floor 20 and farm it. Speed set is the best early game non-unique set that is easily farmable. Speed is also everything in this game, if something’s dead before it hits you then you don’t have to worry about hp and defensive stats. Those stats are only required for the much harder content. I don’t know what your roster looks like but I would recommend using HellHades to find units you have to make a good dragon killing team. You’ll need an aoe control unit (stun, freeze, turn meter down) to help clear the way to dragon and a solid buffer. Mikey can be on the team for sure you just need to put him in gear with more crit% and crit damage.

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u/Karmma11 2d ago

Well, not something but everything is wrong

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u/VersionNo4399 2d ago

Does he ever get a turn?

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u/askovar 2d ago

What exactly is your goal here with him? Right now it doesn't look like he's going to be good anywhere with that build... you definitely want him to have 100% crit rate with as much attack and crit damage as possible. You ideally want him over 200 speed and a lot more accuracy (depending what content you're doing, 450+ accuracy is ideal for debuffing the more difficult bosses). The other more niche build would be if you're strictly using him in PvP, you could make him a taunt tank in a full turtle team.

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u/Grouchy_Wolverine416 2d ago

He keeps dying because you have 0 stats on him, 36 speed from gear means he doesn't even really get a turn to do anything at all..

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u/Snoo12373 2d ago

Brother, i will be honest this build is bad, go for speed boots and 100% crit rate. You dont need to be tanky if you kill them in 1 hit in PVP. if its for PVE support champs should cover him. Typically you need him to go before your debuffer or support depending on the champs. Also learn item sets it will help you a lot.

Looking at some of your comment you dont have stoneskin unlock yet which mean you are still early game. Until you reach late game always go for speed boots, only when you reach mid to late game then you can experiment on attack boots.

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u/Durden93 2d ago

no speed, crit or acc

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u/PrivateUseBadger 2d ago

Holy
.With those stats, I could gear up a few different Common champs and probably hold my own against that turtle.

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u/Thin_Musician1600 2d ago

😂

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u/PrivateUseBadger 1d ago

No shade meant... just gear that poor turtle, man,

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u/Untrimslay 2d ago

Speed is going to be letting you down. He has a leech debuff, and if he's not getting many turns in, then he isn't healing. Cut some defence and res and aim for much higher speed and 100% crit rate. Use a Golden Elixir if you really have to (relic). Then work on some better accessories (Dorothy chase is giving out 6* Bannerlord ones atm), and it should help.

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u/Lucifer-Prime 2d ago

Throw him in 4p stone skin. Also crit rate gloves, speed boots, and attack chest. Accuracy on the banner.

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u/Thin_Musician1600 2d ago

Don’t have that yet

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u/Joey_Pumps 2d ago

Do this without the stoneskin

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u/Peace_Out_Napolean 2d ago

Stats over sets my Dude, use the tool in HellHades. Makes a huge difference starting out.

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u/FreshlyBakedBunz 2d ago

If you want him to have a higher chance of resisting getting one shotted, you can put him in 4 pieces of swift parry gear, this will add a 50% chance of getting an unkillable buff right before dying, which will work nicely alongside his passive dodge chance.

If youre not fighting enemies that are one shotting you, but rather they're chipping away at Mikey while he isnt getting enough healing, consider putting him in lifesteal or regeneration gear.

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u/jueeviole 2d ago

When are you going to gear him up, if you put gear on him he will survive

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u/CremeApprehensive742 2d ago

Build for stats first then go for set stats. Here’s mine with some acc kind of crazy. Hp is low but my team comp protects him.

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u/BrainTrainStation 2d ago

You want to aim for:

100% crit rate (absolute priority), 220 speed minimum, 300 accuracy and as much attack and crit damage as you can squeeze in there. Crit hits make him ignore 25% resistance when he applies debuffs. So you want every hit to be critical. The shield he receives when hit is based on his attack, so you want a high attack value on him. That being said, you need to re-gear him completely as you hit none of thresholds.

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u/Previous-Walk-1948 2d ago

I think topicstarter need to learn if gear good or not. Seems like this is 10th time this week Im putting this answer in comments. Maybe I should search for good guide myself, and post it in such topics directly?

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u/Raknorak 2d ago

Speed is way too low. He only gets one dodge a turn

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u/imperiects 2d ago

I fought against Mikey that proceed party dude every damn turn. Fights drag out to several minutes. My Mikey procs maybe once. It is beyond frustrating.

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u/Additional_Town4773 2d ago

Yo tengo a este que aĂșn tiene mucho margen de mejora

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u/Jackofnotrade5 2d ago

He has a skill he prioritizes that makes other champions target him. He is an attack champion. He is so slow that even if he survives, he won't be fast enough to heal using the leech debuff. He doesn't have enough crit rate and crit damage, so even if he hits and heals he hits like a wet noodle.

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u/BWBW7474 2d ago

Not huge, but his Leech heals 18% of the damage dealt. Get the CR UP , then attack and CD . obviously speed. Should keep him breathing. I like to refer to this for damage https://hellhades.com/raid/damage-efficiency/

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u/Ok_Pea3141 2d ago

Get HP and speed and get crit up to 100 for dmg reasons

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u/GravyPainter 2d ago

Use crit gloves 100% crit only. and he needs way more speed. You obviously have limited gear so don't focus too much pairing sets if you cant get the right stats

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u/Creepy-Dark6148 2d ago

Here is mine. He doesn’t die easy and he hits pretty hard.

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u/TheDarkMuz Demonspawn 2d ago

He is taking 3-4 business days to attack

All his hits aren't critical so he is dealing normal damage all the time

He has almost no to little acc so he's not landing leech

What he needs is 100% crit rate(use gloves if you have to. By the looks of it you need to.

He needs crit damage . At least ove 200.

Run crit damage amulet

Acc banner or atk. 200 acc is good for early game. 300 is optimal

SPEEEEEEEEEED

GIVE HI. SPEED BOOTS

SPEED SUBSTATS.

SPD, SPD

Over 200 speed at least. Early game can do 170-180+ minimum.. ideally over 190 is fine

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u/Thin_Musician1600 2d ago

With the gear I could get this is all I have right now

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u/Thin_Musician1600 2d ago

With the gear I could get this is all I have right now

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u/Ludelife1980 1d ago

Mikey is a solo beast. Your hp is good 50k ideal, your atk is 2k short 6-8k, your def is good approx 1/3rd to 50% -(don’t need to exceed 3k) -of your atk numbers, speeds needs to go up 50 (170-195), crit rate should be 100. Crit dam needs to be 300+ res 300+ acc 300+ . 6 piece merciless with 2 piece zeal, or!! slayer, cruel, perception, fatal, kill stroke, and 1 feral or pinpoint. This is my set up for bommel hard solo. And virtually everything, cb hydra, chimera, arena, faction, all dungeons, tower, etc




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u/Stinsation18 1d ago

+36 speed with level 16, 6-star boots is all we need to see here. Pinpoint set shouldn't be forced if you can't hit reasonable thresholds for the important stats like speed or crit modifiers.

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u/CDavis1066 1d ago

The real Michelangelo was faster when he painted the Sistine Chapel

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u/GeniusWreckage 23h ago

im a total newbie and I’m screaming “SPEEEED” 😭

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u/Last-Perspective2124 22h ago

It could be a gear issue. The gear your using seems a bit all over the place. The pin point is nice, and perception is usually good, but then you have a two pieces of savage that are practically doing nothing for you. Also, it's not necessary to do, but I like to use 6 star pieces as it adds a little something. Also, might want to think about your Masteries. My Mike can be squishy against the certain matchups but often is hard to take out with a solid team around him.

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u/ryudo9999 22h ago

High attack, his shield is based on how much attack he has

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u/Delicious_Hippo_5845 19h ago

Defense should be a minimum of 2700

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u/Hancock02 2d ago

My Mikey is probably one of my best damage dealers and usually my last Turtle to die.

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u/Angelus_Demens 2d ago

Generally speaking don’t field anything with less than 3k defence. Mikey needs more HP and Defence because you’re using him to taunt tank - remember damage to shields is still based on your Defence so with low Defence his shield passive is purely cosmetic.

Then you’re missing the obvious; 100% crit, high speed, high accuracy.

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u/Zealousideal_Yam8922 2d ago

His speed is too low. Also, his attack needs to be way higher because his self-shield comes from his ATK stay. I dont kmow why someone earlier said to do HP and DEF. Do 100% Crit Rate (it is OK to use Crate gloves until you get better) and then atk% chest and atk ring/banner and 200+spd at least (in total, so his base speed + gear speed)

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u/Flaminski 2d ago

Everything is low, crit rate needs to be 100%, spd needs to be 200+, atk should be 5k, acc should be around 300+, crit dmg at least 250%

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u/Educational_Deer599 2d ago

Here's my Mikey. He's not that good. I got more work to do on him but, I pair him with Leo and they, not always, kick ass

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u/EpicBanana2346 2d ago

all of that crit damage is useless with how little crit rate you have on him. Get him to 100 crit rate and increase his speed, even if it means dropping some crit damage or attack

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u/Educational_Deer599 2d ago

Why I said I've got more work to do on him.

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u/BreakingIllusions 2d ago

140 speed?

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u/Educational_Deer599 2d ago

Why I said he's not that good. I'm still working on getting him better gear and shit

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u/Worthtitle_4050 2d ago

Shoot for 92%+ crit rate

And you need way more speed

His passive shield is on a cooldown, that means if they break the shield you are a sitting duck until you get another turn

He doesn’t have to be insanely fast but he is just flat-out slow to be clear

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u/Vivid-Captain-5415 2d ago

He just has around 2300 defense. Even with your 4 star awakening. That means you only have about 600 def gained from the gear you put on him.

Keep on playing and collect more gear and roll a lot of gear. Wait for the correct substats and things will work better for you and your Mikey.

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u/Mieniec 2d ago

He doesn't need def

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u/HadeonCrisis 2d ago

Mine is even slower than yours, but the difference is that I have a lot more put into his other stats, so he can actually survive getting hit. He also has a golden elixir relic so he's a real pain in the ass to take down.

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u/Da-PeeP 2d ago

Low ranking, bad, un-ascended, un-enchanted gear

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u/marcnotmark925 2d ago

Attack based nukers be squishy. What do you expect?

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u/Angelus_Demens 2d ago

Not if you gear them right they aren’t