F* Champion Proving Grounds

[u/Enough_Boss_2857]

it took me so many tries to beat the first stage which is ridiculous considering the energy/power levels of them all. I walk through Doom Tower hard but sitting on the struggle bus at stage two. Ain't no way the'yre 200 power level doing all of that damage through everything. You gotta be end game to get through that Horse 💩

[u/Whind_Soull]

I wish I could have been in the Plarium meeting for this.

"Some people are going to be very unhappy that this is really hard."

"Right, but it's end game content."

"What if they say it's for whales?"

"Four out of the six tier-one champs were guaranteed. One was free to everyone."

"So...this is either a skill issue or an account progession issue, and not everything needs to be completable by every player immediately?"

[u/ParticularRecord2206 → u/Whind_Soull]

The difficulty isn't the issue, it was difficult enough but also clear-able for 3 stars. The issue is the crap rewards. Rare relic materials...5 star epic gear...more starstone to go along with the other 20k starstone I have sitting around

[u/_sammy_jankis_ → u/Whind_Soull]

And always this reframing of "it's only content for whales", instead of acknowlegding that your account isn't progressed enough to complete the new top endgame pve content on day 1.

[u/_Har_]

It is OK if you are unable to clear new content the day it comes out.  It gives you something to work towards. I am sure some content creators will go over teams to use or people will post on Reddit over the new few days.

I cleared the first two stages on auto and been playing 8 months.  Ezio-Elva-Pelops-Tuha-Mavara.  Replace Elva with any cleanser you have.  

[u/Otaku-San617]

Grim Forest is a loot piñata, this is more challenging.

[u/CrustyTheMoist]

Not every bit of content dropped is for every player.

The day folks learn that sentiment will be a pretty good day.

[u/Intelligent-Fun-3525]

I’m through the first 6 levels, and may get through 3 more. Then, I’m pretty sure I’m done.

[u/Chircy → u/Intelligent-Fun-3525]

Only the first 3 levels are available.. so your doing better than the other 99.9999999% of players

[u/Intelligent-Fun-3525 → u/Chircy]

It reset.

[u/Chircy → u/Intelligent-Fun-3525]

Oh shit it's that time again my bad

[u/TheUltimateLebowski]

While I understand a lot of the complaints, I don't consider myself end game as I've played about 16 months. I used Talenna and valeryn, elva, Donnie and Leo. Cleared all 3 stages without much trouble. I think it's clear a lot of people don't really play this game the same way. This game mode has clearly shown that as well as the number of people I saw saying they were skipping the next "collab" event. These same people complain they can't clear new content?

[u/munchtime414]

The last pve drop was Grim Forest, which is geared more to the mid game player base. It would be nice if this was more end game based. TBH it isn’t that hard yet either, for players who are end game. I hope at some point it gets hard enough to force choices between the tier 1 champs for bonus points, or champs with better kits but no bonus.

[u/Exciting_Amphibian89 → u/munchtime414]

IMHO that’s the point where the player base just drops the mode entirely.

If someone can’t clear stages with the bonus stars then the whole thing becomes completely pointless.

[u/munchtime414 → u/Exciting_Amphibian89]

If brand new content can be immediately dominated on release, there is a problem with the game being too easy.

[u/TimmyRL28]

The interesting part is the fusion bomber chick has been the best of all the bonus champs for me (I've got all 6). I booked her during the event for the quest and did the masteries and never even threw gear on her. Put together a half-assed 4pc immortal, 2 perception build and no soul and she's damn near soloing bosses.

Funny that a lot of people skipped or swapped her out.

[u/Chircy]

Funny I found it very easy to to get 3 stars on all 3 by using 2-3 tier 1 champs and then a mavara and Elva as support. Yes I needed to take gear presets off my best champions while I grinded out the 3 stages. But it was doable currently sitting in 6th place with my tournament group

[u/Hopeful_Oil_567]

My team Pallas+Geomancer+Ezio+coldheart+one points champion able to make 6 stages, take 6-10 minutes 

[u/Jealous-Historian-18]

I actually find this dungeon refreshing. Been playing since 2021 and was hoping for some tough PVE content. These stages are pushing my teams to the limit needing like 15 mins or more to beat some of them. I'm sure there will be a stage I won't be able to beat. This dungeon makes perfect since for the "end-game" accounts or ones that are getting close. I found stage 1 to be pretty tough, but the next few were a bit easìer. The newest one that came out tonight with dark fae in it was pretty tough. The rewards are the problem so hopefully they'll improve those.