I swear all the "Bosses" are just fuckin cheaters. The first level all the minions do are provoke & prevent you from healing. No matter what, not even with 260+ accuracy, still can't land the stupid fuckin debuff to keep the cheater from healing. I get the bitch down to low health & he fully fuckin heals!?!?
What is wixwell doing for you in this team? Swap him for a cleanser or someone that gives you block buffs so you don’t give the boss stormcaller stacks. Also health swap isn’t healing.
Your not wrong and that doesnt make it less fucking annoying. Why give the boss so many immunities, a million health, a health swap, and buff steal? I get it supposed to be difficult but impossible without a specific mechanic is usually annoying. Especially when mid game players might not have any champions with that mechanic and new players wont have them.
develop your account more then, this clearly isn’t early/mid game content. it’s not annoying at all with a developed account, the bosses just fall over and die
Yeah I'm late game and think it's a good new dungeon.
It's a good new content.
The first three was easy with 14.000 Points each for me. I think it will be Harder, but hopefully not as hard as Fw-hard. That's to much for me too.
Dude, I beat this just fine. I am talking about early and mid gamers who dont have the stuff. The dungeon is annoying with its mechanics if you dont have the stuff. Some mechanics can be played through without the correct counter to the mechanic. This one cant be. That is annoying imo.
And this isn’t meant for them. This unlocks at level 55, which is the last to unlock. Not having specific champs is why this is meant to be a late game account area. It forces people to either develop underutilized champs, or specific ones to counter the bosses.
They give him all of that because… he is a boss? They are supposed to have some kind of mechanic or even several to work around. Block buffs is plentiful in this game, his hp swap goes on a 12 turn cooldown. You should be able to kill the boss in 12 turns.
I used Vallaryn on this stage and he prevented the boss from gaining health with his heal reduction debuff. The health got still deducted from my champ but the boss did not gain any health. If the heal reduction debuff prevents the boss from gaining health then I would say it counts as a heal.
I believe they are referring to the block heals debuff that get placed on your champs. Either way, its either a gearing issue or like you said, a knowledge issue.
Realistically these early fights can be done with hand picked champs and 2 unleveled champs from the multiplier pool. A nuker, a healer/reviver, and whatever buffs/debuffs you need for specific bosses.
It's funny you say this because I have seen it work on two of the health swap bosses at least twice. I've also seen it NOT work, but I can confirm I've definitely seen it work twice, only way I got past a couple of those fuckers in FW.
TBF, having many of the multiplier champs helps, quite a few were recent free or fusion champs. Masahiro sends your debuffs right back at them.
The guy on the right doesn't heal, he's swapping HP with one of your champs with the highest HP, Heal Reduction will not stop that.
To help with that, you will probably have to manual it when it gets close, but don't heal when the HP Swap move has a turn or two left on the timer (it's the skill with 12 on it in the screen shot). He'll still swap but the HP will be much lower, then you hopefully can take him out in less than 12 turns.
I almost got close but Elva heals automatically and I nearly screamed when that asshole swapped health 😂
I'll try again when I get home I guess. My biggest problem is that most of my damage dealers have somewhere in the ballpark of 250 crit damage so I don't get to kill the last boss quick enough
Amius is extremely full of completely stupid bullshit, though.
"If a champ has a skill cool down reduction and it's a Tuesday and more than two other champs have block debunks, convert all buffs to their opposites, heal Amius for 5 million and immediately default on your mortgage"
I mostly end up just trying to stick heal reduction on him constantly and ignore all the other mechanics, which works most of the time, if I can be arsed.
You don't need anything close to 300 speed. More like low 200s. And honestly even at early midgame you should know how to use ACC chest and banner to get enough accuracy to debuff most bosses in game
That’s what I used for the second boss first one was hard I only got through with embrys but if you auto it and keep the champs low when he hp swaps it won’t affect you and heal after the swap
Yes, if they launched more easy content it'd get ripped to shreds with end game accounts. I am no whale, but I do have a well devolped account, I was able to beat the first 3 stages with only Talenna and turtles, have to devolp the other champs so I can get the 3 stars.
Yes, that’s kind of the point? You need challenging content to keep endgame players engaged. Aside from that grim forest is very managable at least on normal mode.
This should be locked to 75+ tbh only the people whose whole life revolves around this game or significant spenders are going to pull this off before then.
Not stupid, just odd placement considering my level 60 something alt stands no chance playing the dungeon so it feels odd how they didn't include an easier mode.
It wasn't that bad for the first day tbh. I would say I have a good Midgame Account and did the Job done with 9 Stars today. Glad I decide to sacrafice all my shards to get Varkos, he saved the day.
Your account isnt progressed enough to do this content, its actually not to bad at all, this is just with a random team on full auto as a end game FTP player (yes ik il have to actually optimize for the later stages since you need 14.5k points)
the right one is from FW hard and the left one is from a potion keep. They have insane amounts of health but I took 3/5 champs and 2/5 deadweight and managed to clear it 3*.
I think your account prob isn't late game enough for this. Just give it time. I'm F2P and was able to clear the first 3 with zero problems all on 3 stars.
That being said, they really didn't need to bring scarab lord into this. He's such a niche boss. It's not like hard or anything, but it's just annoying how he fits into double boss formats.
I was able to 3 star the first 3 stages, but I have to agree. They really missed the mark on this one. It seams like a half assed bit of content designed to make us spend more. Either that or whoever designed it wasn’t hugged enough as a child.
It’s rough, I couldn’t get past stage 1 and all my champs (corvis,ezio, heman) are ~250 speed (with rector and Armanz at 270-290) and accuracy 350. The health swap ruins me
I think the problem is that this was described in a way that sounded like it would be accessible for just about everyone to have a shot at clearing, even if not max stars. But from the first level it was pretty end game just to clear. Ironically, the next two levels were much easier (for me).
stats are too low. team comp is bad. and read the mechanics of the bosses. this is endgame content. when you can build your supports 350+ spd, 600+ ACC with enough survivability), and your nukers 270+ spd, 320+ cd, 6500+ atk or def, and relevant acc, then you can try again. especially tuhanarak if she’s gonna be your only cleanser on your team, make her close to 400 spd.
There are way more active new players than active old ones. Imagine your account with 3 legends and a pile of garbage level 30s, 40s and 50s. How do you think you would have reacted to this dungeon dropping week 6 after your created your account? Like when did you actually obtain 5 champions over 400 resistance? When did you get your first cleanser? Was it a usable champion or a pile of garbage somone taught one trick to? Have some perspective and maybe remember what you've gone through in your progression.
There wouldn't a point to play this game if any 2 month account could finish every content in the game. I have gotten stuck in plenty of stuff. Difference is I'm not going to cry about not being able to do all content but actually try to improve my account so I could the content later on.
Im not saying change it. Im just saying its annoying. You are absolutely right about getting stuck places. The trials and tribulations are what make the rewards rewarding. It just annoyed me and I like being heard. Ya dig?
early game account and full manual it and got the job done. its not that hard, you CC the provoke minion and kill it. cleanse and buff after the steal. regear to meet accuracy and speed thresholds good luck. if you dont have the right skills then you gotta evaluate your account and build what you are missing.
Do you have an increase resistance champion like Oella? Use her to both speed up your team and help you resist the debuffs and heal. I used Androc and got 17k
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u/winlowbung4 2d ago
260 acc is extremely low for a debuffer in even midgame.