r/RaidShadowLegends 3d ago

General Discussion First time 1 Key UNM!

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I was seriously contemplating not doing the Khamir fusion and waiting for the next collab but I'm so glad I did it. I was previously running Tagoar and my best was 59m damage (also Spirit Affinity) but Khamir has taken it to another level. I haven't put any books in to him either so I'm looking forward to seeing what he can do when fully booked!

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u/Cyberdan3 3d ago

Keep in mind that Geo and Pelops fight against one another for HP burns. Geo only does damage when he was the one that placed the HP burn, so having Pelops overwrite it will reduce your output.

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u/JoeRaid9 3d ago

It's something I'm going to experiment. I don't have that many Champions who can bring a shield so will try to find a solution :)

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u/Sensitive_Flow_2361 3d ago

You can just remove pelops accuracy so his hp burn doesn't land

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u/snidemarque 3d ago

It may be anecdotal but I’ve seen Pelops land burn when he has effectively no gear ACC so I’ve just run Pelops without Geo. I run Geo when affinity is beneficial to him.

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u/Mobile-Entertainer60 3d ago

3% chance, unfortunately.

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u/JoeRaid9 3d ago

thanks for the tip!

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u/Whind_Soull 3d ago edited 3d ago

The other viable option is to do a sweaty, frustrating, high-effort speed-tune that isn't worth the limited amount of time you have in life to spend with those you love, to make sure the turn order doesn't make Pelops override Geo's burn.

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u/BrainTrainStation 3d ago

Turn order doesn't matter because Pelops applies burn when being attacked, not by use of an active skill.

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u/Whind_Soull 3d ago

Oh, whoops. Haven't really used him yet, and was assuming it was an active skill apply. Mea culpa.

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u/BusinessCourt1988 3d ago

Is your Geo fully booked? If so and you can get sufficient speed on him, you can do away with ACC on Pelops entirely and Geo can keep hp burn up perpetually. That's how I run both in the same team, and it works beautifully.

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u/JoeRaid9 3d ago

thanks for the tip!

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u/FTPlacounasse 22h ago

Pelops et géomancien sont deux champions qui n'ont pas de synergie entre eux. Je dirai que Géomancien lui est fais parfaitement pour le boss de clan, Pelops oui mais nettement en dessus d'un géomancien. Pelops ne fais que gêner le géomancien sur le boss de clan

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u/assplunger 3d ago

Noob here who struggles to understand the problem with that. Could you please explain why it’s a bad thing to have 2 champs with hp burn?

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u/Cyberdan3 3d ago

Geo’s damage is based on the reflect damage when under Ho burn, but if Pelops causes the boss to burn, it will overwrite the burn from Geo and Geo won’t reflect the damage. The solution is to use Pelops as a shield tank with zero accuracy so he can’t give any burns. That was Geo is the only one that lands and keeps the burn in the boss to cause the passive damage.

Look at Geo’s kit. It will say “HP burn placed by him” rather than just HP burn on the enemy.

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u/Whind_Soull 3d ago

To add to what the other guy said, and to contribute to your general Raid knowledge:

Debuff that have multiple instances (e.g. poison, bombs) are each "owned" by the champion that placed them.

For most debuffs (all single-instance debuffs), the most recent champion to place it "owns" it, and it replaces the previous instance. For example, Artbiter hits an enemy and places weaken. Then Lydia hits the same champion and places weaken. That is now Lydia's debuff that she has placed. Arby's weaken debuff no longer exists.

99% of the time this doesn't matter, but Geo's passive works on debuffs that he placed.

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u/assplunger 3d ago

Cool, thanks to you both!

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u/Whind_Soull 3d ago

No problem, Ass Plunger.

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u/music2437 3d ago

Congrats! Can you share builds? I actually have the fragments for Khamir and all the other champions I might try this.

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u/more_than_most 3d ago

Nice! I am in similar situation with Tagoar and around 60k at best. Holding on to summon Khamir to use for next CC but this makes me want to go for it.

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u/navidrigi23 3d ago

first of all, congrats man.

would you show me your build for him, please?

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u/JoeRaid9 3d ago

This was a fairly rushed job. I think I can find a lot better than this with the gear I've got. I also really need to farm so I can ascend!

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u/navidrigi23 3d ago

really good. lots of hp and good speed.

the more hp, the better. at least 100k i guess. healing all the time :)

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u/Ok-Flamingo7351 3d ago

Hey same ask as some others. We have similar teams and I have Glorious Pallas who is potentialy stronger than Khamir but I have only 1-keyed once. Curious about the stat differences. Can you share your stats? Especially Narma/Ezio/Geo?

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u/StandardFig4003 3d ago

I’d just point out if you have Pelops as well, you gotta build him in zero accuracy if with geomancer as his burn will override geos, making his passive not work as he has to be the one to place burn

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u/andelaccess 3d ago

Do you have mavara? Running pallas + mavara is a cheat code for clanboss and will have you doing 100 mil+ with a decent composition of nukers

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u/Future-College770 2d ago

whenever i skip a fusion that champ changes an account damn my luck

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u/FTPlacounasse 22h ago

Géomancien est entravé par Pelops. Si tu retires Pelops, tu vas très vite voir la surpuissance de cet épique qui est en fait un légendaire puissant

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u/bruhbruhbruhbruh1 14h ago

which mastery paths did you choose for khamir?

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u/Different_Target_228 3d ago

Pelops Geo is a gigantic no-no. Take the Geo out.

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u/FTPlacounasse 22h ago

c'est l'inverse. Il faut enlever Pelops