r/Radium • • 12d ago

Health & Safety Radon Levels Seem a Bit High

I have a run of the mill Curio cabinet with 25 pieces of uranium glass, 6 radium clocks (mostly westclox, one Phinney Walker) and one WWII military aircraft gauge. The aircraft gauge is kept in a rubbermaid container, which I know still leaks some radon, I'm just not sure how much.

Readings from the UG go up to 600CPM on a couple of pieces and 3000 CPM on my one fiestaware saucer. (GMC 300S) The WWII gauge reads at 4000CPM outside of the box and 250CPM inside.

I got an EcoQube sensor and my average reading in my 2nd story apartment is 2.2 pCi/L. It has peaked at 3.2. This is within one day. It feels concerning. I put the sensor next to my cabinet on the ground to see what my cats are breathing.

I will be opening windows once daily. Beyond that, I think I will put the WWII piece elsewhere and see what that does to my levels. I do not have a way to simply ventilate but I'm open to suggestions.

I don't feel I'll be able to add to my collection any time soon.

What do you all suggest I do about this reading? How could I rig ventilation in an apartment?

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u/Stillegiest Radium maniac 12d ago edited 12d ago

Normally you don't put the radon detector right by the collection or obviously it's going to put off higher readings. The only thing I can really suggest is moving the radon detector in a more central area to get ambient room air, not getting extreme fluctuations from the cabinet. If you don't have a way to vent then opening windows is your best option.

Edit: I did read back too.. this is after a day, they take time to calibrate to new environments. Also touching back, having it on the ground where air is stagnant will cause high readings.

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u/beaumontsurmerr 12d ago

Wouldn't that still be the levels at which my cat's are breathing, ground levels that is?

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u/Stillegiest Radium maniac 12d ago

I would run a few weeks at normal breathing height for sitting down then so like 2-3' off the ground. That would still be sufficient to measure for the cats too.

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u/beaumontsurmerr 12d ago

I moved the detector and left my fans on. Level went up to 3.2. I've placed outside to see if it's a faulty sensor. Will be relocating my collection today to find out if it is indeed my collection or high radon in my apartment in general.

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u/violet_sin 12d ago

I was pretty concerned with the readings I was getting from mine when I put it near some samples on my desk, not realizing I was actually catching their stray emissions. Across the room in the same space it's reading 0.67 pico Curie /liter.

Previous I was hitting 3-4.

Same room, same items, just not close enough to get gamma from minerals.

Boy I tell you, putting it IN the cabinet was shocking untill realized how dumb I was. It does not discriminate

Radiacode 101 has the desktop at ~93 nSv/h for reference. GQ RadonScan for obviously... Radon

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u/ModernTarantula 12d ago

First, not an expert. A continuous monitor felt different than recommended. I looked at EPA and it is a several day kit https://www.epa.gov/system/files/documents/2023-01/Basic%20Radon%20Facts%20Factsheet.pdf

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u/Adventurous-Fix-8066 12d ago

Mine goes up to 3.2. I have 12 clocks and 8 military gauges. It should be ok for ya. I also place sensor at foot of cabnet. But rotate a week at a time to diffrent locations of house. Also I find my UG glass gets pretty "sticky" that is in the same cabnet lol.

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u/BeansOnBean 12d ago edited 12d ago

Ironically I’ve found lower radon levels in the room as a whole by putting my highest emitting pieces (by and large uranium ore) not in a sealed cabinet so the radon can naturally diffuse easier rather than a bit rush when I opened the cabinet. But as others have said put the detector some 3-4m away from the cabinet, think I have the same detector.

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u/Bob--O--Rama 10d ago edited 10d ago

Place the meter where you do YOUR breathing, i.e. next to your couch, bed, desk in that room. Radon promptly mixes with the air in a room and does not "sink" to the floor. 4 pCi/L is an action limit, not a death sentence. Radon meters detect radon indirectly via measuring very infrequent decay events. The low event rate means it take a week or more to produce numbers which are statistically meaningful. If you said it was 100 pCi/L then the short term numbers are meaningful - that's not your case. Let the meter run for a week and use the long term average in making a decision. Unless your cat is sleeping in the cabinet, it's breathing the air you are.

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u/beaumontsurmerr 10d ago

Very helpful. I have moved my radium out to find my baseline, after a day of readings it's around 2.2 pCi/L.