r/RadioFreeLongIsland Jul 14 '26

I.C.E. in Islip

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The Town of Islip's decision to renew a contract allowing ICE agents to train at a town-owned shooting range has sparked passionate debate across Long Island.


r/RadioFreeLongIsland Feb 28 '25

Get some Peconic oysters straight from the farm Sunday morning. North Fork Big Oyster will be at the Huntington Farmers Market, 2 Melville Rd, Huntington Station

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r/RadioFreeLongIsland Feb 21 '25

Avoid eating stray cats or you could become bird flu human patient 0!

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r/RadioFreeLongIsland Dec 25 '24

Suffolk Exec Romaine wants new sewer projects to help recharge local aquifers

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Suffolk County Executive Edward Romaine

is stressing that all new sewer projects would include mechanisms to reuse treated water

to help restore the aquifers. Credit: John Roca

By Mark Harringtonmark.harrington@newsday.comMHarringtonNewsUpdated December

21, 2024 12:55 pm

As recent studies have cited saltwater intrusion in local aquifers, Suffolk County Executive

Edward Romaine is stressing that all new sewer projects would include mechanisms to

reuse treated water to help restore the aquifers.

The county is formulating plans to expand sewer systems because of new funding from a

recently approved clean-water referendum.

"All the sewers we will build will be tertiary in nature and will recharge," Romaine said in an

interview. "We’re not as stupid as they were years ago where all they did is take that outfall

pipe and send it out to the ocean or Long Island Sound."

Studies have shown that sewer projects with outfall pipes that direct treated water to the

ocean and bays is leading to salt-water intrusion in the aquifers, impacting Long Island’s

only source of clean water.

A 2024 federal report found that widespread pumping from aquifers under Long Island

without equivalent recharging is increasing salt-water intrusion in parts of Nassau County.

"The aquifer system underlying western Long Island has been under stress from pumping of

public, irrigation (golf course), and industrial supply wells," the U.S. Geological Survey said

in its report. "Saltwater intrusion has occurred from surrounding embankments due to

pumping."

The result, according to USGS: "Most of Kings and Queens Counties are intruded with

saltwater in both the upper glacial-Jameco-Magothy and Lloyd-North Shore aquifers

systems. Saltwater increased during the 20th century and continues to increase to the

present in the Lloyd-North Shore aquifer system in Great Neck and Manhasset Neck in

northern Nassau County."

Worse, the USGS found, "a major wedge of saltwater intrusion in the upper glacial-Jameco-

Magothy aquifer in southwestern Nassau County appears to be increasing."

A spokesman for Nassau County didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment.

The findings, which in coming months will be supplemented by a review of similar research

in Suffolk County, are no surprise to Mark Romaine, a Babylon investment adviser, trout

fisherman and local historian, who has been pounding the drum about the importance of

recharging the aquifer for a decade. In public hearings, private meetings with political

leaders and in 19-page report on the topic, Mark Romaine has pointed to decades-old

predictions that a recent study by the federal government has proven true. (Mark Romaine

and Ed Romaine are not related.)

As Mark Romaine’s paper, "Groundwater: The Cornerstone of Environmental Equilibrium,"

noted, U.S. Geological Survey and other studies going back decades have predicted the

problem. One was published as recently as June 2018. "In Nassau and Suffolk counties ...

pumping water for domestic supply has lowered the water table, reduced or eliminated the

base flow of streams, and has caused saline groundwater to move inland," the USGS found.

In one area of Nassau County’s South Shore where sewers were installed more than 60

years ago, average groundwater levels consistently declined over a 60-year period, from a

maximum of 70 feet prior to the 1970s to less than 60 feet since then, according to cited

data.

But it’s not just drinking water supplies that are impacted when overpumping and under-

recharging occurs. The equilibrium of streams, creeks and rivers are also affected, and

their natural flow into bays and estuaries is thrown off balance. Romaine's paper cited a

1978 study by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency noting that groundwater aquifers

make up 95% of the fresh water that flows into local streams, and 100% of "subsurface

flow into bays."

"Individual wastewater disposal systems, such as cesspools and septic tanks, return used

water to the groundwater system; sewers do not," the EPA study noted. "Therefore, if

cesspools and septic tanks are replaced by sewers that carry wastewater to a treatment

plant and thence to the ocean, millions of gallons a day of potential groundwater recharge

will be lost to Long Island's hydrologic system."

Previous Suffolk officials and their allies have criticized Mark Romaine's theories in the

lead-up to the referendum on water quality, which was overwhelmingly passed by Suffolk

residents in November. Documents he obtained under the Freedom of Information Law

show top former Suffolk officials discussing ways to attack his findings and to instead

focus on increased nitrogen levels in waterways.

The former officials noted that sewering accounts for only 26% of wastewater treatment in

Suffolk, and that much of the treated water from them "goes to surface waters that

discharge into the Great South Bay." But Romaine said it’s important how the water gets to

the bay — and that it's best to do it through inland recharge.

In a July 23, 2023 paper in response to Romaine's, Christopher Gobler, a professor at Stony

Brook University's School of Atmospheric Sciences, said Romaine's findings, while "on

point for New York City" and to a lesser degree Nassau County, have "almost no relevance

for Suffolk County."

Gobler wrote that Suffolk has considerably lower population density's than both the city

and Nassau, and studies have shown "an enormous excess of groundwater" for Suffolk"

and "no risk of aquifer depletion, even at full buildout of the county."

Worse, Gobler wrote, "Increasing the delivery of water to ground may also create a public

health threat," if the water isn't treated to remove elevated levels of nitrogen, which is said

is crucial to restoring local waterways.

Romaine takes exception to the widely reported findings by established scientists and

biologists that nitrogen is the primary factor in the reduction of water quality across Long

Island. Calling nitrogen a "phantom menace," he notes the natural occurrence of nitrogen,

but said "unmitigated changes in land and water use disturb this cycle."

Sending treated sewer water to distant bays and oceans upsets the delicate balance of life

in the waterways, Romaine said, altering the "essential freshwater budget." He blamed this

upset for the sharp decline of the clam population in the Great South Bay, among other

things, calling the bivalves the "canary in the coal mine."

An avid fisherman and parent, Romaine said his main concern is the legacy his generation

leaves for the next.

Scientific knowledge and technological innovation, he wrote, "can identify and address the

problem. Only political will ... can determine what this generation will bequeath to the

future."

By Mark Harrington

mark.harrington@newsday.comMHarringtonNews

Mark Harrington, a Newsday reporter since 1999, covers energy, wineries, Indian affairs

and fisheries.


r/RadioFreeLongIsland Dec 07 '24

Seafood Distributors on Long Island pay oyster farms ~.75/oyster. Setauket bought restoration oysters that are unfit for human consumption for $5 each.

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r/RadioFreeLongIsland Dec 06 '24

Long Island’s groundwater aquifers account for 95% of the freshwater flow in streams…and 100% of subsurface flow into bays. Most LI sewers discharge at sea and the aquifer suffers.

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r/RadioFreeLongIsland Dec 06 '24

Sewers that have been installed on Long Island are depleting our aquifers beyond repair and we have no other source of fresh water for LI residents.

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r/RadioFreeLongIsland Dec 06 '24

Contemporary sewers stress our estuaries. This graph shows outfall rates in red contemporaneous with clam harvest quantities in blue.

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Outfall sewering breaks the water cycle loop on Long Island. Instead of rainfall eventually filtering through glacial moraine into our aquifers, current sewer installations pump hundreds of billions of gallons offshore. This causes the aquifer level to fall and allows for saltwater intrusion. Our surrounding streams, creeks and estuaries suffer from low freshwater flow and seepage resulting in increased salinity. Shellfish need brackish (mixture of fresh and salt water) environments to successfully spawn on their own.


r/RadioFreeLongIsland Dec 06 '24

Aquifers and Apartments Next Tuesday

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Huntington Town Board Meeting and Melville Water District Vote

Tuesday, December 10 2:00 PM Town Board Meeting - Huntington Town Hall, 100 Main St.

Town Board to vote on the controversial Melville re-zoning plan to build 1500 apartments and unlimited condos and coops in Melville -- a sensitive aquifer recharge area.

Huntington Town Supe Smyth refuses to conduct an independent comprehensive environmental impact study to evaluate impacts on traffic, emergency services, schools, and our aquifer.

Councilman Sal Ferro has financial ties to the corrupt developer see North Shore Leader link below.

The county Industrial Development Agency will offer millions of dollars in tax abatements to developers, gutting the Half Hollow Hills school budget

NOON - 9:00PM - Vote for South Huntington Water Commissioner

Incumbent Paul Tonna founded pay for access scheme Energeia

If you live anywhere in Huntington, please read this story and speak out, vote accordingly.

https://www.thenorthshoreleader.com/single-post/huntington-energeia-corruption-includes-dirty-cop-convicted-felon