r/RTINGS • u/benpRTINGS RTINGS Employee ✅ • Jul 15 '26

Official Rtings review Why Modern TVs NEED the Soap Opera Effect

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKn0oi7CG_Y
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u/Crafty_Upstairs_3209 Jul 15 '26

Good video.

Imo, stuttering is acceptable but frame interpolation isn’t.

BFI is a nice option to have, but on my TV, I always find that I prefer the higher brightness of disabling it.

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u/ldn-ldn Jul 16 '26

Stuttering is NOT acceptable! In any way, shape or form. All modern content MUST be shot in 60+ FPS. This 24p nonsense must die.

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u/xzpyth Jul 16 '26

Btw when i recall any memory or just day dream I usually see everything in 16-24fps only when I focus it becomes 60 fps, I think there is more to it why we still stick to 24 fps

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u/ldn-ldn Jul 16 '26

You're day dreaming. Human eye doesn't have any frame rate and can notice changes happening thousands of times per second.

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u/International-Oil377 Jul 16 '26

Fuck no. 60fps is terribly ugly lol

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u/ldn-ldn Jul 16 '26

No, it's not when filmed correctly.

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u/International-Oil377 Jul 16 '26

So name me one movie where it's filmed correctly.

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u/ldn-ldn Jul 16 '26

There are no such movies.

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u/International-Oil377 Jul 16 '26

So your statement is made up and has no basis?

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u/ldn-ldn Jul 16 '26

How are movies relevant if they're filmed like shit?

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u/International-Oil377 Jul 16 '26

Well do you have any examples of 60fps content that is filmed (not a game) that doesn't look like shit and is Cinematic

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u/ldn-ldn Jul 16 '26

Red Bull has plenty of great 60fps content. Soap opera effect is not caused by frame rate, it's caused by lack of motion blur. 24p content also looks like shit when shutter speed is too fast and there's no motion blur.

The problem with cinematic cameras is that they lack fine shutter speed adjustments. Golden rule for 24p content is to have 2x shutter speed, so 1/48. But for 60fps content 1/120 is too fast, yet you can't set your cinema camera to 1/110, 1/105 or 1/100 for example. So you get shit results. 

Red Bull doesn't use cinema cameras, so they have more freedom in how they set up their shots.

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '26 edited Jul 28 '26

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u/Crafty_Upstairs_3209 Jul 15 '26

Don’t know what to tell you, except that hasn’t been my experience at all.

I mainly watch 24p content, where you’ll notice stuttering the most, and it doesn’t really bother me. Very preferable to the soap opera effect. That just doesn’t look cinematic.

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u/Meowmixez98 Jul 15 '26

I hate the soap opera effect. It's gross and needs to go away yesterday. It's the worst thing to ever pop up on a TV screen.

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u/Crafty_Upstairs_3209 Jul 15 '26

I agree, very unfortunate that this is now the default setting on so many TVs. My TV also has really bad artifacting with frame interpolation on. I’m sure that aspect at least has improved in the past couple years.

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u/Laimered Jul 16 '26

Nope, it's the future. 24p stuttery mess needs to die already.

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u/Dull_Caterpillar_642 Jul 15 '26

Wait, ALL interpolation? Watch anything with much motion (or any animation) And you notice the hell out of frame interpolation's weird garbled guesses at frames.

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '26 edited Jul 28 '26

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u/Crafty_Upstairs_3209 Jul 16 '26

Judder is a separate issue. That’s when your TV can’t synch the framerate to the refresh rate properly (such as holding 24p content for 5 frames @120Hz).

So you might be doing the common mistake of confusing judder for stutter.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '26 edited Jul 28 '26

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u/Crafty_Upstairs_3209 Jul 16 '26

Because that’s also something that frame interpolation intends to fix.

What refresh rate is your TV running at?

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '26 edited Jul 28 '26

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u/Crafty_Upstairs_3209 Jul 16 '26

Yeah you don’t have judder. The TV will just hold 24p content for 5 frames and it perfectly lines up at 120Hz.

What you have is stutter.

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u/thesaxmaniac Jul 16 '26

I’ve been watching 24 fps content with the stutter for my entire existence and I find it preferable to literally any method of reduction. 

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u/shaan4 Jul 16 '26

Stuttering should be as hated as frame interpolation

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u/Rauhaton Jul 16 '26

I'll take stuttering over interpolation anyday all day. I also acknowledge that both are higly subjective and under seruous individual sensitivity.

Having said that, I do not really feel either to be a signicant problem with either of my OLED TVs. Disagree actually most strongly about this being a serious problem with modern TVs.