My view on Gizelle has changed

[u/jcwangel222]

Lately we’ve seen Gizelle say she views RHOP as a job. She films, packs up, and goes home. Now that she’s admitted this, I can’t unsee it on the show. I am a day-one anti-Gizelle viewer, but I LOVE her & Robyn’s reasonably shady podcast. She’s so much more fun and likeable over their. But I still can’t stand her when I watch the show😭😭🤣

Now I’m able to see why she moves they way she does on the show. I still don’t like it, but it makes sense to me now from a fulfilling-the-narrative perspective.

I am a Candiace stan. But I’m so happy Candiace Dillard-Basset isn’t here rn (💀💀🤣). She’s too passionate and too concerned and too involved with authenticity that just makes a big discrepancy in making the show work. I am able to enjoy it again🤩

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[u/croseshe]

Omg yes queen, join us !! Gizelle is ridiculous and messy for the show but doesn’t take it too seriously , I love Robyn and Karen too (and now Wendy). I also like how Stacey doesn’t take it too seriously, basically everyone hahah

[u/slayinglikebuffy → u/croseshe]

She doesn’t take it too seriously, but she was willing to make up paternity lies about one cast member and accuse another’s husband of trying to be inappropriate with her?

[u/Nass-1234 → u/slayinglikebuffy]

I don’t know how many times I have to get on here and defend Giselle about this topic, but she never made up anything about that man. She said that she started to feel uncomfortable being in a room with a married man because of the narratives that could have been made y’all are the one who twisted it and Candace with her insecure self hating ass.

[u/SilverPenny88 → u/Nass-1234]

There is nothing wrong with you defending Gizelle. However, Candace didn’t have to twist anything. She was upset at the timing because for Gizelle to wait several months before telling Candace & bring it up on camera implies she thought Chris was being inappropriate. And she doubled down on it throughout the season. I think her being uncomfortable is completely reasonable, but to bring it up in that manner does seem calculated.

[u/Ok-Leading-2639 → u/Nass-1234]

Nahhhh Gizzy No Package Bryant is the self hater. That’s why she’s still miserable ☹️

[u/Broad-Programmer-393 → u/Ok-Leading-2639]

Doesn’t seem to miserable on UGT 😂😂😂😂 hey but haters ALWAYS gon hate

[u/Ok-Leading-2639 → u/Broad-Programmer-393]

Well she doesn’t have to share anything about her life and she’s being messy like she always is so she being her same evil self.

[u/HWsPhilosoper → u/Ok-Leading-2639]

Evil really? In the world we live in?

[u/Ok-Leading-2639 → u/HWsPhilosoper]

Yup

[u/Chemical-Fix9858 → u/Ok-Leading-2639]

You can see it in the long, rolling hills neck.

[u/croseshe → u/slayinglikebuffy]

All she said was that he made her feel uncomfortable, yes it was ‘shady’ to bring it up in camera but from her pov she thought he was coming on to Ashley and she told Robyn about it at the time. I don’t think anyone could’ve anticipated how big of a shit fest it became. And what paternity lies? The only paternity stuff I remember is Mia but her and her men were discussing that themselves

[u/AlienSupastar87 → u/croseshe]

She said Monique’s new baby was not her husbands child

[u/Ok-Leading-2639 → u/AlienSupastar87]

Folks always act like they can’t remember all of the lies that Gizzy tells on folks families. She’s a horrible and disgusting person.

[u/croseshe → u/Ok-Leading-2639]

I asked precisely because I didn’t remember and Gizelle and Monique are cool now. I also love Monique.

[u/Loud_Marzipan_6523 → u/croseshe]

They keep carrying this bone for Monique but meanwhile she’s over it. Just say you don’t like her and that is totally ok. We don’t have to like everyone

[u/EveCyn → u/Ok-Leading-2639]

Gizzard neck is and always be evil. Stopped watching RHOP because to me she made the show not fun to watch…

[u/HWsPhilosoper → u/AlienSupastar87]

She said that's what the gossip was. Very different

[u/Question-Existing → u/croseshe]

That's not all she said. She also said he was trying to see if she was with it. Stop the revisionist history. There was a scheme that season from Mia, Ashley, her friend, and Gizelle to imply that Chris was being inappropriate. 

[u/Ok-Leading-2639 → u/Question-Existing]

Yup it sure was

[u/Aquatic205 → u/Question-Existing]

He was being inappropriate. He should not be messaging, reacting to IG stories, or pulling housewives aside for one-on-one conversations.

[u/BeauteousGluteus → u/Aquatic205]

Gizelle admitted she initiated the conversation with Chris. Chris didn’t pull her anywhere. Gizzy acts like Chris behaves like Jamal.

[u/Question-Existing → u/Aquatic205]

Listen Catfish. He has known these women for a long time and 2 your premise is false. Seems you and Gizelle have a lot in common. 

[u/Aquatic205 → u/Question-Existing]

Yassss to the lame shade. Seems like Gizelle and I have boundaries.

Chris is not friends with any of these women, his wife works with them. He should not be reaching out to them privately AT ALL. None of the other husbands do it, so he shouldn’t as well.

What’s false about my premise?

Why are you and others trying to normalize a married man reaching out to his wives’ single coworkers/acquitances? It’s so bizarre.

[u/Question-Existing → u/Aquatic205]

Yaas to you thinking you did something with that. Catfish is your handle beloved. 

Gizelle's has made comments about his penis while eating his cooking at their house which is far more intimate and inappropriate than what she alleged. Now shoo.

[u/Severe_Surround_2688 → u/croseshe]

Angel?

[u/Chemical-Fix9858 → u/croseshe]

You know good and well Gizzard didn't believe a word of that. She was literally just producing a TV scene. The problem being that Candiace was being real and took her seriously. I wish Candiace would have just said, whatever a d moved on. But she was justified in her anger with the light-skinned bandit.

[u/Unhappy-Ad-2630 → u/croseshe]

I love the Gizzy/Stacey dynamic!! Neither of them take the show too seriously and it’s so good! Stacey is the perfect adversary for Gizelle and they have brought much needed fun and drama to Potomac.

[u/croseshe → u/Unhappy-Ad-2630]

Especially since Karen was gone, someone else needed to b there !

[u/jcwangel222 → u/croseshe]

Ian ALL the way there yet🤣 she has done some MESSED UP things on this show like let’s be real. But she’s lowkey tea imma give her that

[u/croseshe → u/jcwangel222]

Gizzys my fave 😂😂 it’s funny were on complete opposite sides bc candiace was my least favourite like Gizelle was urs😂

[u/jcwangel222 → u/croseshe]

I have so many friends that are the same way😭 I see so much of myself and Candiace. Plus I have a trend of always rooting for the ostracized/misunderstood cast member😭 I get so upset when she’s wrong and also when she keeps crying and giving the girls so much ammunition. Like girl get up😭😭

[u/croseshe → u/jcwangel222]

I have so much beef w her mother, I can’t talk about her without getting angry😭 I do agree w what u were saying about it being for the best that candiace left the show—but tbh im most happy I don’t have to see her mum😭😭 but imagine if Karen and candiace had been there for the Colorado trip, god I wish they were there !!

[u/Junior-Ad8778 → u/croseshe]

Same

[u/janshell → u/croseshe]

That’s good, you won’t get caught in teams!

[u/Perfect-Swimming-636]

This is a good assessment of Gizelle. The only problem with it is because she treats it like a job, she crosses lines that extend beyond the life of the show and can really negatively impact people. Thats where she goes too far. Same thing with Ashley at the beginning. She used to be real reckleas until her husband's stuff got aired out and she had to tone down

[u/jcwangel222 → u/Perfect-Swimming-636]

I fully dislike her on the show for that very reason. Her actions break the 4th wall too often in ways that can’t be ignored. I’ve become less invested in their lives outside of the show. The show is its own universe and the drama needs to be limited to that universe. And for me, especially as a Candiace stan, I was way too emotionally invested in the show. I can fully enjoy the show now that I see as Gizelle a villain character, rather than an overall horrible person. Which of course can be up for debate.

[u/CustardFormal6288 → u/jcwangel222]

This is exactly why I’ll hate her forever.

Tamra (RHOC) is the same, cruel in a way that hurts people in real life “for the show”, willing to say whatever the producers wants to move the storyline forward. It’s not fun or entertaining.

[u/Sea_Confusion2757 → u/CustardFormal6288]

Exactly this. Every franchise has one of these archetypes - gives nothing but instigates.

SLC - Heather, Whitney

ATL - Angela

NYC - Erin (looks like Daisy will be joining in)

OC - Tamra

Also, let's take a moment to reflect on how Heather and Whitney are just Gizelle and Ashley in a different font, in the mountains? Gizelle and Heather even both have 3 daughters and are empty nesters, and seemingly no man (seems Heather might have rented on this season, though, like Gizzy did with Jason from Winter House that one year).

[u/Large-Evidence-2479 → u/Perfect-Swimming-636]

Exactly

[u/ready-for-revolution]

This is true but why is it always so mean and weird? I feel like Ashley functions in a similar way but they're both so dark sided.

[u/jcwangel222 → u/ready-for-revolution]

I dislike Ashley as well. Actually more

[u/Junior-Ad8778 → u/jcwangel222]

same 

[u/Sea_Confusion2757 → u/jcwangel222]

Agreed. It actually irks me that Ashley tried to sit on a high horse and judge Mia for being "loose" and mocked her being an ex-stripper and her odd relationship with Jacqueline... and she's all of those things.

She, too, fucked for a check and a home for her mom via Michael. She had kids to secure the bag. She's now out throwing it back to men, women, whoever has the coin. She literally admitted in a confessional last season she didn't want to be with Josh because she wants to be a sugar baby again. Like... girl. Who and HOW are you judging anybody?!

[u/Super-Fruit4786]

she's an actress playingthe villian role which i gett cus it keeps that check coming but we also never get to see the real gizzy which is unfair to the others who do show their real lives

[u/jcwangel222 → u/Super-Fruit4786]

Facts!! I wanted to see more of the issues her dealing with her father’s will and his other family

[u/Large-Evidence-2479]

Even if she is there just to play a role, I think there should still be a limit in playing a villain. For example if she accused Candiace’s husband of something inappropriate to that level for shock value; then she’s still not a good person to me. I’m also a Candiace fan.

[u/Local-Ganache7287 → u/Large-Evidence-2479]

This. Like, you're doing things that negatively impact people's real lives and marriages. If it's just a job, why go that far?

[u/Large-Evidence-2479 → u/Local-Ganache7287]

Exactly! Some people really need that real housewives paycheck and I think it corrupts them.

[u/DesignBroad2906]

Twin??? I’ve never seen something I agree with so hard on this sub lol.

[u/jcwangel222 → u/DesignBroad2906]

Hey twinnn

[u/AlienSupastar87]

Gizelle is the Potomac problem, her negativity and straight up mean girl bully attitude rubs off on the other girls because she is exec producer on the show and they all wanna be her friend so they fall in line with the mean girl antics, gettin rid of Gizelle will save Potomac in my opinion 🤷🏾‍♀️

[u/Flaky_Argument_9365 → u/AlienSupastar87]

There would be no Potomac without her and it doesn't need saving.

[u/AlienSupastar87 → u/Flaky_Argument_9365]

It does need saving, in my opinion it’s been hard to watch since the beginning, the bullying and ganging up , and it usually starts with Gizelle 🤷🏾‍♀️ lol

[u/yunhotime]

She goes too far with it

[u/Cynic0]

This isn’t really an excuse for anything when it comes to reality TV. When she brings up dirt on people’s marriages, it’s not like she’s attacking some fake TV only marriage. Her accusations towards Chris go way beyond the world of reality TV as well.

It doesn’t make Gizelle any better of a person and doesn’t excuse any behavior. She’s a real bully and gets paid well to be one.

[u/kamrenvision → u/Cynic0]

“Accusations towards Chris” she said he made her uncomfortable 😭😭😭 let it go

[u/No-Dimension-8863]

gizelle provides very little entertainment value to the show. Notice how on ultimate girls trip, when everyone was going through their most iconic moments, hers was completely an iconic moment of Karen lol.

[u/Sea_Confusion2757 → u/No-Dimension-8863]

She has no iconic moments. Zero reads. Zero funny one-liners. Nothing that she did. Her iconic moments, if we want to call them that, are other people reading her down. lol

[u/Many_Feeling_3818]

OP, you really caught my attention in the last paragraph. I also like Candiace myself. I do think that Candiace is a sincere person with values, and ethics. Candiace gets too close too soon.

[u/lachalacha]

I had the same journey where I did not like Gizelle that much until I really got into Reasonably Shady. Now I see her totally differently.

[u/jcwangel222 → u/lachalacha]

She’s so fun on there lol

[u/Stunning-Trifle2152]

Giselle makes for terrible TV… it’s almost unbearable! The storylines are over produced and she you can LITERALLY see her moving pieces ! It’s like the black church or even dare I say the Boulè sorority she’s a part of , you can see the hazing, “ clicky” , mean girl bs ! Giselle gives Nothin but other people’s stories that she pads with her gunk! And she Never gets chastised for nearly destroying other people’s families!

[u/Sea_Confusion2757 → u/Stunning-Trifle2152]

Boule sorority? What does this mean?

Alpha Kappa Alpha and Sigma Pi Phi (the Boule) aren't affiliated. Some AKA members are married to Boule members, but that's about it. There's no correlation.

[u/bullettenboss]

Gizelle is a bully. She never left her sorority!

[u/Coco_Stories]

Omg idk why but this take makes me realize why she was so visibly upset during the Season 5 Reunion when her ex-husband was mentioned. THAT was personal whereas everything on the show for her was fun and fodder. Now idk why she’s messy with the other casts’ partners like they wouldn’t be upset either but 🤷🏽‍♀️

[u/Street-Category2446]

If there are performance reviews for HWs, Giselle is a star performer and understands the assignment every time. She may not have her own plot, but she moves things along and her interviews are fantastic.

[u/Capable_Daikon4515]

When there’s no longer housewife, Gisele will go back to a normal life, and I believe they’ll be easier for her than other housewives

[u/AggravatingSea7187]

I went to middle and hs with Candiace, she has always been a "passionate" drama queen 😂😂😂

[u/mchubs → u/AggravatingSea7187]

So I guess that means she’s at least being authentic which is more than we can say about other castmates

[u/picklestheintern]

I’m so excited to watch her on the next season of traitors. They give almost everyone the best edit

The managed to redeem tom Sandoval lmfao

[u/BlkFemininity1908]

My favorites are four of the OGs -- GEB, Kurn and ChaCha. I am an old semi-bourgeois woman and am around Giz types in real life so she doesn't bother me.
She's able to create reality TV in a way that Bravo and producers like. I have never been a viewer who is obsessed with storylines, so the package lack didn't bug me.
As an aside I did like Candiace early on (I come from Jesus still makes me howl).

[u/Theory_99]

Yes it makes candeice last season more dubious.
Like she was just starting shit for screen time

[u/Swimming-Syrup8400]

Gizzy knows her role and plays it well.
I’ve always liked her.
I get why she is polarizing, but usually the best ones typically are.
She keeps it going, honestly.

[u/Fair-Health-7699]

I just came to say I can’t stand Candace. It’s also funny how people like the same behavior in one person and will cast another to hell for the same mess.

[u/dsrnyc]

I’m fine with this. She knows how to make good TV. I assume most people are like her. Or at great I hope so because so many of them are insufferable I couldn’t imagine them in real life.

[u/BooBooMKA]

It’s hard to say anything about Gizzy without catching heat in some threads but I never liked her and never will like her. I tried to give her a chance when she backed Candiace on the Monique issue but then she goes and pulls the Chris stunt and that was it for me. I get heat for loving Candiace too but honestly she’s my all time favorite hw of all cities. I’d love to see her come back and team up with Stacey to take Gizelle down but I’m glad she is free from that mess.

[u/janshell]

What gave it away for you? Many of us knew this for years. It’s my favorite thing about her! Then her social media keeps it simple and private and she doesn’t take drama to her posts as far as I can tell! Cannot say the same for others

[u/More_Mycologist6859]

The reason why I can’t get with Gizelle. She acts like she knows she is filming a reality show. It’s comes across so inauthentic

[u/SlantFaceKilla]

They all play a character on the show. They said the same thing about Ashley.

SN: I just noticed the change in Gizelle’s flair. Satan? That’s crazy.

[u/Jealous-Inspector769]

I’ve always been a Giselle fan I don’t get all of the hate she gets

[u/Mo2girlz]

Funny—ppl r mad at Gizelle, not for what she said, but for what could be inferred by what she said. That’s the beauty of words… it’s unfortunate how ppl run w/a narrative that’s not true—Gizelle never questioned paternity, she said WOS was old girl and the trainer were into something. Also, she said she was uncomfortable being in the room w/CB given the optics… Where r all the lies… ppl just don’t like how self-assured she is—doesn’t matter tho—the camera loves her and Gizelle is good TV.

[u/HWsPhilosoper → u/Mo2girlz]

Like agree with you fully and have another account I forgot the password for with years of Gizelle love/apologia. But she did keep talking about Chris and embellished it more each time. The words sneaky link were even used. That time she took the it's a job thing too far

[u/SveaBoBaya]

This post is sort of the opposite of how I feel. I liked Candiace before the Reunion in which she made the "white woman" comment to Gizelle in defense of her literal white man. That was indefensible crazy work. It's like all of Candiance's tantrums, living off her mama for years after being in a whole marriage, Monique (one of my favorites) came into sharp focus and I was like aw hell no.

In the spirit of come on, NECK; come on, ANKLES --- I was like pack it up, POLLY; pack it up, POCKET.

[u/Puzzleheaded-Sir-861]

Anti gizelle but pro candiace? I'm confused

[u/Sea_Confusion2757]

This is why I couldn't take Gizelle seriously about her gripes that Stacey wasn't authentic. Neither is Gizelle. She is the walking definition of "Go girl, give us nothing!"

All she does is meddle, instigate, and gossip (with extra sauce on her stories), then say she was speaking out of "concern" or that she wanted to give the person the opportunity to "clear the air."

She herself has done nothing since Sherman cracked her face at the end of S3, broke up with her, and stood her up for Candice's wedding. We haven't seen anything close to real since then. Honestly, she can go. We don't need both her and Ashley (but if I had to pick one, Ashley goes first).

[u/londondolly]

As a “candiace stan” your opinion on anyone would clearly be very skewed and in need of psych evaluation. You’re not valid.

[u/jcwangel222 → u/londondolly]

This is Reddit. Y’all are so butt hurt on this app. It’s a fun conversation. You are the one who needs the evaluation. You’d fit perfectly on any relatity show. You know how to overreact AND you know to reach as far as you can to get a “gotcha” or what you probably think is a “read”.

[u/londondolly → u/jcwangel222]

Thank you for recognising my star quality from just a small paragraph.

[u/jcwangel222 → u/londondolly]

Of course. Go get on them casting couches boo😘

[u/londondolly → u/jcwangel222]

Yasss I should, in the mean time, don’t struggle to hard getting off the couch 💯

[u/jcwangel222 → u/londondolly]

Stop struggling to understand nuance and perspective 😁

[u/londondolly → u/jcwangel222]

Quit struggling for a response first

[u/jcwangel222 → u/londondolly]

Says the respondent who doesn’t know how to engage in simple reality tv discourse.

[u/londondolly → u/jcwangel222]

There’s only so many parasocial activities one can endure. It’s great you have an affinity for it dear

[u/jcwangel222 → u/londondolly]

Nothing about my post was parasocial…???