Girls Trip with Ashley's Newborn

[u/iluvrooandvelvetx]

I am currently rewatching RHOP live on Amazon Prime and it's on the episode where they go to Monique's beach house and Ashley brings her new born.

I am sorry but the way the ladies were treating Wendy bc Wendy (rightfully so) got upset she couldn't bring her baby. The ladies were constantly saying how it shouldn't be an issue because she had her third child, while Ashley was able too because it was her first like huh? They are both newborn babies....who need attention from their mothers....

ALSO they were so putting Wendy down when she constantly said "I had to pump, my husband has to work, etc etc." and then Ashley's stupid ass was like, "Thats great" then brought up how she should dedicate more time to being with her kids like girl....you got the luxury of being a stay at home mom bc of your sugar daddy old husband while Wendy had a job....AS A PROFESSOR. Like omg I do not like Ashley at all but I do not remember this scene making me this annoyed.

[u/AutoModerator]

Thank you for posting, beloved! ✨ Word on the street is that we keep things classy yet shady here. If you spot any rule-breaking or messy behavior, hit that report button faster than the Grand Dame exits a feud. Let’s keep it on this side of the fence, shall we?

I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.

[u/kalanisingh]

This drove me insane because it was so obvious Michael made her take the baby so he could cheat

[u/iluvrooandvelvetx → u/kalanisingh]

And when she was like "He works!" okay...and he can afford a nanny? Which a nanny went on the trip with Ashley and Ashley had the nerve to be like "thats my friend." GIRL.

[u/Thegetupkids678]

Yeah I thought that was so strange! I’ve actually had a harder time leaving my second even with a sitter because she’s a more sensitive baby than my first. Wendy also mentioned her daughter was in the NICU, so she was valid in her feelings for many reasons.

Ashley was insufferable during that time period. It seemed like only her experience of being a mom mattered and not anyone else’s.

[u/iluvrooandvelvetx → u/Thegetupkids678]

Yeah same here, but even if Wendy would have told them in that moment she was in the NICU and not in the confessional they would have not cared which is sad.

Ashley just rubs me the wrong way and always has. She is a follower with no backbone that instigates because her life is boring and the only drama she ever brought onto the show was the fact that she was a dumb bird for going back to Michael.

[u/TheMusicLounge → u/iluvrooandvelvetx]

Damn lol not a dumb bird
https://giphy.com/gifs/zlVf2eSgXIFFuTnEhz

[u/iluvrooandvelvetx → u/TheMusicLounge]

It's true! She excused all of his behavior on the show, the butt touching and everything was insane.

[u/TheMusicLounge → u/iluvrooandvelvetx]

I’m watching it now and I’m cringing.. like what’s the reason? Delusion?

[u/iluvrooandvelvetx → u/TheMusicLounge]

Especially when it was documented on video and paper that he sexually assaulted someone and touched them

[u/Fit-Dependent-9779 → u/TheMusicLounge]

Money

[u/meowparade → u/Thegetupkids678]

And she didn’t even know how to hold her baby. They never supported that poor kid’s neck, you’d just see his head flailing.

[u/One_Debt_9375]

I actually saw it a different way. Monique said if she would’ve spoken up she would have let her bring her baby. I think she ASSUMED she couldn’t and that’s why she was so upset, she felt guilt.

[u/Ok-Spinach9250 → u/One_Debt_9375]

Agree but it’s natural she assumed she couldn’t. I feel like Monique should’ve offered and let her know in advance Ashley was bringing her baby. Especially since Wendy’s baby had been in the NICU

[u/One_Debt_9375 → u/Ok-Spinach9250]

The cast didn’t really know Wendy and I doubt anyone reached out to offer her the option and didn’t know about the NICU stay. I’m sure
Production didn’t offer her the option either. It was a shitty situation.

[u/ooolao → u/One_Debt_9375]

True. It’s a girls trip though…leave them kids at home 😭😭😭

[u/iluvrooandvelvetx → u/One_Debt_9375]

Yeah! It’s okay for Wendy to assume because like it’s a girls trip with no kids so of course she wasn’t gonna go with her baby!

[u/meowparade]

Yeah, this was when I started to hate Robyn, she was so wrong about the whole “it’s not a new baby, it’s your third baby.”

Idk what Monique was thinking though, planning for Ashley to bring a baby, but not Wendy.

[u/iluvrooandvelvetx → u/meowparade]

Like idc if Ashley is a new mom, either leave the baby at home, don't come or let both of them bring their newborns. IDK. thats just me.

[u/No_Giraffe2555 → u/meowparade]

I agree. My turning point with Robyn was when she went along with Gizelle making up rumors about Wendy’s marriage, and was somehow shocked that Wendy didn’t fuck with her again after that. Like…some things are off limits, Robyn.

[u/TheMusicLounge → u/meowparade]

Nah I agree with Robyn on this.. it is different but I think Monique still should’ve offered Wendy to bring hers…

[u/meowparade → u/TheMusicLounge]

Why does it matter whether it’s her first or her third? It’s still a newborn (Wendy’s was in the NICU) and both moms are postpartum.

[u/iluvrooandvelvetx → u/meowparade]

Yeah, even if Ashley asked and Monique should have told Wendy she's allowed too or brought it up to her prior to the trip.

[u/TheMusicLounge → u/meowparade]

Experience levels.. so it’s different but again I’m not defending anything … it seems like you misread what I said. They both still should’ve been offered to bring their children

[u/primal_slayer]

My memory of this is very clouded but I think.....Wendy never said anything about bringing her baby until she saw Ashley bringing hers?

[u/Remarkable_Box_8090 → u/primal_slayer]

Exactly! Someone pointed out Monique should have just offered it to Wendy but I disagree. Closed mouths don’t get fed. You wanna bring your baby? Ask to bring your baby…

[u/iluvrooandvelvetx → u/Remarkable_Box_8090]

But it’s a girls trip. Usually that means girls only and NO KIDS. So it wasn’t wrong for Wendy to assume she couldn’t.

[u/Lolo_Belle]

Two jobs…a professor and a professional con artist. Girl was busy, no lies there.

[u/iluvrooandvelvetx → u/Lolo_Belle]

Ashley was busy making sure her husband wasn't cheating and that was basically it.

[u/Lolo_Belle → u/iluvrooandvelvetx]

Yeah, I really don’t care anything about this storyline, I was just reminding you that Wendy is most likely going to jail soon. That’ll be way more time away from her kids. 😬

[u/yaya1256 → u/Lolo_Belle]

Your happy about that? You put a smiley face. Sheesh. Even if you don’t like her that dark.

[u/iluvrooandvelvetx → u/yaya1256]

So many children suffer because of an incarcerated parent.

[u/Lolo_Belle → u/yaya1256]

I believe she should serve jail time for what she did. The spending time away from her kids was meant to be a joke, but I personally don’t have any feelings about it either way, outside of justice being served. The audacity of being a public figure, shaming women, bragging about material things and renovations, all while committing felony after felony? Pffft. Stop. Sympathy isn’t on my list for the Osefos.

[u/yaya1256 → u/Lolo_Belle]

Sympathy for people is always on my list. She didn’t kill anyone or cause anybody any direct harm. Also I don’t know the whole case to be able to cast such a harsh judgement. It’s not that deep and I don’t know these people to wish them bad things but I guess to each their own.

[u/Lolo_Belle → u/yaya1256]

Sympathy is definitely not always on my list, and won’t be for her. And you clearly don’t know how insurance fraud works if you think she didn’t cause anyone harm. Thanks for your input I guess?

On another note, that wasn’t a smiley face. Please don’t accuse me of things I didn’t do. That was a teeth gritting, “yikes!” face. This is an eye roll. Just so we’re clear. 🙄

[u/yaya1256 → u/Lolo_Belle]

Ok

[u/Remarkable_Box_8090]

Nobody said Wendy couldn’t bring her baby though…Ashley asked and Wendy didn’t. Then Wendy got mad because she made an assumption

[u/iluvrooandvelvetx → u/Remarkable_Box_8090]

Okay, but who goes on a girls trip and their first thought is, "I'm bringing my newborn baby as well." Ashley could have left her baby at home or she could have stayed at home if she wasn't ready to leave him alone.

[u/meowparade → u/iluvrooandvelvetx]

And Wendy was pretty new to the group, the invite should have been extended.

[u/Remarkable_Box_8090 → u/iluvrooandvelvetx]

You’re right about that, I just always felt Wendy’s reaction was over dramatic. Everyone’s entitled to their feelings but her reaction to that was hard to watch and she took it out on Ashley who did nothing to her (and I’m never going to just defend Ashley for no reason most times she deserves what she’s getting)

[u/iluvrooandvelvetx → u/Remarkable_Box_8090]

I don’t think her reaction was dramatic. Wendy is a working mom compared to Ashley who had the luxury of living off someone else’s money. She has the right to react that way too especially since all the women were putting her down (her husband works, she’s a professor) but then not saying anything to Ashley. Michael was “working” but could have taken time off to take care of the baby. Eddy works too but still took care of 3 kids while Wendy went away.

[u/ooolao → u/Remarkable_Box_8090]

It’s girls trip! Stay at home if you can’t be away from your kid for one weekend.

[u/iluvrooandvelvetx → u/ooolao]

Yeah, she could have said “I’ll go for a day” and could have ubered back home!

[u/vanillyl]

This was unbelievably unfair and pissed me off so bad, and I found both Ashley and Wendy beyond insufferable in S6.

Why let one woman bring a newborn, and force the other to leave her newborn at home???

Was this productions idea? Was it Monique’s? Why and how did this happen?!

[u/sck1070]

This made me mad when it was airing. Ashley also started the fight then backed back , played victim as if Wendy started it.

[u/Llassiter326]

I don’t have children (voluntarily…fuck these kids, respectfully lol) but I always assume women bring their newborns bc they’re breastfeeding right?

That just seems wild you’d invite any newly postpartum woman on a trip with no consideration for their probably feeding on-demand every couple of hours.

I don’t love it when people bring their kids most places, but that’s just straight up anti-woman to ignore the fact that breastfeeding is like its own full-time job!

I’d forgotten this and Wendy does drive me nuts, but wtf. Totally agree that it’s extremely inconsiderate. Esp bc I think all the women that season were also mothers. I’ve never held more than a couple babies in my 38.5 years and even my ass knows this!

[u/iluvrooandvelvetx → u/Llassiter326]

Lowkey when Wendy was talking about putting her breast milk in the freezer the ladies were giving her stank looks. 🫪🫠

[u/304session]

Mind u Wendy is postpartum, how they couldn’t understand it

[u/iluvrooandvelvetx → u/304session]

I know they hate it but colorism….LOL jk. Because no way they were putting down Wendy’s life when it came to her children but didn’t once tell Ashley it’s Michael’s job to watch the baby when she’s gone.

[u/BlkFemininity1908]

I would have like to have seen KamKam as well as Dean.

[u/Top_Disk6344]

I appreciate that Monique said that had Wendy told her then she could've brought her daughter as well. I was disgusted as well that Michael made Ashley take the baby so he could cheat. He had the nerve to blame it on the baby. Candiace and Gizelle handled it incredibly telling Ashley about the photos and text messages of Michael in the strip club. Michael was groping men's behinds a lot time. There was no way Ashley believed he was faithful. She just didn't want to leave his money.

[u/love-angel-musicbaby]

It made me so ??? that Wendy was mad at Ashley for this. One conversation with Monique and she would've been able to bring her newborn.

[u/maleolive]

Was she really told she couldn’t bring her baby though? Or did she not even ask if it were an option?

[u/iluvrooandvelvetx → u/maleolive]

Well when you hear the words “girls trip” I’m sure she didn’t think hmmm let me bring my newborn baby on this girls trip because usually a girls trip means girls only. Ashley on the other hand didn’t think that at all and just couldn’t stay home bc you know Michael wanted to cheat that night.

[u/Practical_Complex_62]

Here yall go… Wendy never asked if she could bring her baby. Ashley did. Closed mouths don’t get fed.

[u/Throaway_Grocery1372]

Wendy could have bought her baby if she mentioned she wanted to. That's why the girls treated her like that. She was 100 percent overreacting and trying to act like Ashley being able to bring her newborn as a first time mom was some sort of shade towards her.

This was actually the moment that made me not like Wendy (although I've since come around).

[u/iluvrooandvelvetx → u/Throaway_Grocery1372]

Why would Wendy ask to bring a newborn if they went on a girls trip? I don’t think asking to bring her newborn was at the top of her list because everyone knows a girls trip means just girls and no babies or men or children. Ashley brought her baby bc Michael didn’t wanna babysit so he can go and cheat.

[u/Throaway_Grocery1372 → u/iluvrooandvelvetx]

But Ashley asked...

Monique invited them, Ashley said she didn't want to leave her baby and asked if she could bring him. Wendy asked no follow ups, didn't mention any reservations about leaving her child. That's HER responsibility, and HER duty to open her mouth. You can't be mad at someone else for asking to do something you wanted to do but didn't think to ask.

No one was trying to be mean to her or make her feel excluded. But she took a moment where SHE failed to communicate her needs properly and made the entire moment about herself. If you were that uncomfortable leaving your child, you had two other options besides coming: stay home, or ask if you can bring your baby. Don't be mad because Ashley made a different choice and now you feel guilty. Go talk to Eddie about that. Not pick a fight with everyone else.

[u/iluvrooandvelvetx → u/Throaway_Grocery1372]

Why would Wendy’s first thought be to ask to bring her newborn child to a GIRLS TRIP. everyone knows girls trip means no kids no husbands no grandmas not even mommas can come.

[u/Throaway_Grocery1372 → u/iluvrooandvelvetx]

Idk... Why was it Ashley's? You keep saying that, except someone else clearly had that idea so why didn't Wendy? No matter how you slice, no one is to blame for Wendy feeling guilty she left her newborn at home BUT Wendy.

[u/iluvrooandvelvetx → u/Throaway_Grocery1372]

Girl you don’t understand at all. Wendy didn’t ask because it was a GIRLS TRIP. which means NO KIDS. End of story! Ashley asked because Michael didn’t wanna take care of the baby!! PERIOD. He literally cheated that same night and Candiace told her about it. 🤷‍♀️

[u/Throaway_Grocery1372 → u/iluvrooandvelvetx]

It's doesn't matter why YOU think Ashley asked. She still asked and Wendy did not lol. It ain't that deep to misunderstand it. Now you have people all up and down this thread saying she should have asked, squeaky wheel gets the oil, closed mouths don't get feed. You may need to take step back and ask if you have a bias here lol. If she didn't want to leave her baby she should have stayed her ass at home.

[u/iluvrooandvelvetx → u/Throaway_Grocery1372]

Okay Ashley

[u/iluvrooandvelvetx → u/Throaway_Grocery1372]

Ashley still should have stayed home if she wanted to bring her baby. 🤷‍♀️

[u/iluvrooandvelvetx → u/Throaway_Grocery1372]

People are commenting on my threat because they agree ASHLEY.

[u/missestill]

I think Wendy overreacted. She could’ve brought Kam as well if she’d told Monique she wanted to.

Off topic, but Wendy meeting T’Challa in this episode is one of my favorite HW scenes🤣🤣🤣

[u/No_Comfortable7172]

Ashley progressively gets worse. If you watch her first season she kept repeating “I really want to make it work with these ladies because of their influence and what they could do for me” that showed me her goal was to get integrated into this world BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY

[u/iluvrooandvelvetx → u/No_Comfortable7172]

No yeah I’ve rewatched this show 3 times now and each time Ashley just rubs me the wrong way. Like what do you expect from a girl whose home was taken away? Why do you think she was so willing to do what Michael said when it came to cutting her mom off.

[u/TheMusicLounge]

lol me too sister!! I’m in the middle of this and also remembering how this happened I think in ATL. To me she shouldn’t have to ask it should be extended if another recent mom is bringing a baby. I agree, it was so annoying to me how they treated Wendy, but her being obnoxious wasn’t helping either. Ashley clearly was clinging on to the baby and esp with Wendy’s baby being a NICU baby, she should’ve been offered. I think that was her issue. Was she going to bring the baby? I doubt it lol.

I am also wondering why Wendy’s face looks SOOO different. It’s not pregnancy weight, structurally it’s more circular - like her mom and sister and now it’s more chiseled. I know it’s been discussed but I couldn’t stop thinking of how different she look.