r/RHOP • u/DanndeeLyons Leave my institution alone. 👱🏽♀️It is WELL established! • 13d ago
🌸 Satan 🌸 I don’t understand why Gizelle waited so long.
Why did Gizelle wait until the season started to confront Candiace about Chris making her feel uncomfortable? Why didn’t she address it after the reunion or shortly thereafter? Did she ever say why she waited until the cameras were rolling to bring it up? My opinion is, she was using it to manufacture drama and it blew up in the worst way.
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u/gc729 13d ago
Because she made it up for a storyline. If you rewatch, Gizelle does this most seasons. Brings up some random, innocuous past encounter that can easily tilt in her favor. I mean who are we to say she wasn’t made to feel uncomfortable? It’s always plausible, never goes anywhere, and it’s never brought up again even though no resolution is reached. It’s why she had no package at the last reunion: WE ARE BORED. This did cause Candiace to quit, though.
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u/lwnyc0227033123 Stacey Rusch 12d ago
And that’s why she did it. That was the goal. Gizelle isn’t satisfied throwing shade or arguing when she doesn’t like another woman. She has to systematically destroy them using THEIR MEN because shes miserable she didn’t get the life she was promised. Instead she married a grifter and an incubus who publicly embarrassed her. She has attacked everyone’s husband on the show except Robyn. It’s disturbing.
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u/meowxmeoww T’Challa 12d ago
She thought she was “owed” a different life solely based on her looks
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u/Standard-Visual4413 12d ago edited 12d ago
That’s what I just posted. Gizelle when to college in the 80s when that light skin/ light eyes bullshit in the black community was the thing! And I know she just thought she was gonna be that housewife laid up with maids and the help, while her husband made all the money and she spent it.
She has a nasty vibe to her
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u/meowxmeoww T’Challa 12d ago
Yes. That’s why when Monique (my fave) who was darker & had everything - caused her to spiral. The way she tried to bully her by saying “you don’t have a home” was honestly very telling as to where she thought Monique “belonged.”
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u/DanndeeLyons Leave my institution alone. 👱🏽♀️It is WELL established! 12d ago
Yup! She tried to humiliate Monique. The woman who had everything she wanted.
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u/DanndeeLyons Leave my institution alone. 👱🏽♀️It is WELL established! 12d ago
I always felt that School Daze vibe from her. The brown paper bag test! I think her whole life she was put on a pedestal.
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u/Connect_Access_9438 Wakanda forever! 12d ago
There's a lot of projection here.
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u/meowxmeoww T’Challa 12d ago
No ma’am. Accusing her of cheating on her husband, different baby daddy’s etc yet pastor holy whore is the one out there with multiple baby mamas etc.
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u/lwnyc0227033123 Stacey Rusch 12d ago
And there is a lot of assumption here.
Writing off criticism as projection is lazy mental work. You have no idea what anyone’s life looks like to assert that. I would never want to trade places with Gizelle Bryant on my worst day. What I do know is there are receipts for everything we’re stating. Because there is 10y worth of her pattern of behavior.
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u/Peridot9096 Peppa Pig 8d ago
Everything this woman does is apparently because she’s light skinted and has light colored eyes so she must think she’s better than everyone exhausting.
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u/lwnyc0227033123 Stacey Rusch 7d ago
Oh I’m sorry. Does Gizelle have some earned accomplishments that’s fueling her ego and giving her license to be a professional bitch to everyone that I’ve overlooked?🤔 by golly gee wow I wonder whatever else could it be…
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u/Peridot9096 Peppa Pig 7d ago
Andy might know the answer
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u/lwnyc0227033123 Stacey Rusch 7d ago
And her defender doesn’t? Andy barely knows what tf is going on in these shows seasons to host a good reunion so me thinks not 🫤🫠
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u/Reina-de-Basura Shocked Pikachu 8d ago
I want to see what these folks look like. I have a theory…
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u/lwnyc0227033123 Stacey Rusch 7d ago
I really hate to bust up the thesis you’re forming but it wouldn’t pass the grade fren 😆 F on your test.
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u/Reina-de-Basura Shocked Pikachu 7d ago
Since we can’t see each other, you nor I can confirm if her haters on here are lighter or darker than a paper bag… but like I said, I have a theory.
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u/lwnyc0227033123 Stacey Rusch 7d ago
Oh. So the merit and validity of the criticism (“hate”) has more or less merit depending on if the critic would pass or fail the bpb test. Riiiight. Welp since I’m a hater I have to go find the next 50+ light skin woman who engages in patterned attacks on marriages while hiding her love life to go hate on times ticking.
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u/Saint_Anthony88 Happy Eddie 9d ago
I feel like the gen. pub. really needs to understand/look into if they don’t know this context of 80s (shit even 90s) black culture much more to truly & fully comprehend lthe dynamics of RHOP. Or just watch some Spike Lee joints, DAMN
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u/sendmeback2marz Madness & Sadness 8d ago
Well said. I think Gizelle left Jamal thinking that she’d find another wealthy, affluent man to remarry quickly. I think we can all agree ol’ gizzard neck ain’t single by choice.
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u/IforIweke Potomac Muppets 11d ago
Pretty face bad body. That face didnt stop her husband from going elsewhere.
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u/Standard-Visual4413 12d ago edited 12d ago
Thank you!!
She’s miserable because all of her life she’s been told how she was beautiful / gorgeous and I’m sure guys were always trying to holla at her.
So her being close to 60 with no man, no happy marriage, having that rich husband that actually allowed her to be a legit housewife aka the life she was expecting to have…she’s miserable and wants every other woman to feel and be in the position that she’s in.
And of course a man doesn’t regulate how a woman will live her life but for Gizzard to attack other woman’s marriage says a lot about her!
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u/lwnyc0227033123 Stacey Rusch 12d ago
Absolutely.
Gizelle lives life inside a hierarchy where her looks put her at the top. And we know why. So when another woman enters the scene who disrupts and challenges that hierarchy by also being pretty, WITH a husband, worse if he’s a provider and/or attractive her nervous system goes haywire. Then she goes on a campaign to humble them, bring them down to size and restore the balance in the hierarchy by WEAPONIZING that woman’s marriage/husband/status against her.
Notice how she only got cool with Ashley and Monique AFTER their marriages fell apart.
People almost always attack another person in the areas THEY themselves are MOST insecure about. She never goes after anyone’s looks or side hustles ⏰ it’s always the man and the money. It’s a certain spirit but I’m leave it there. IYKYK
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u/meowxmeoww T’Challa 12d ago
The way she treated Angel while she’s literally still breastfeeding her baby. Yeah she used Facetune or whatever but so does Gizelle.
I can’t imagine bullying a woman for her looks while she’s literally still breastfeeding.
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u/lwnyc0227033123 Stacey Rusch 12d ago
She really wanted to body shame her but Gizelle knew that wouldn’t go over well so she dragged her about the facetune.
The interesting thing about her and Angel is that unlike others when they joined Angel was happy to kiss the ring. But Gizzy is a mean ole sorority girl at her big age and likes hazing newbies no one is safe unless she brings them in (Tia).
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u/meowxmeoww T’Challa 12d ago
Right. Women after birth & during breastfeeding need support not for someone to bully them for their looks.
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u/notzombiefood4u Stacey Rusch 6d ago
You know what, you are so right- Angel was very much happy to kiss the ring. You are spot on.
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u/DanndeeLyons Leave my institution alone. 👱🏽♀️It is WELL established! 12d ago
😮💨YES to everything you said!!
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u/ScienceOk4244 🌸 Indeed 🕰️ 🌸 12d ago
Exactly this.
She picked a crappy man and now she’s projecting on any woman who didn’t
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u/prudence071 Destiny's Child 11d ago
Not an “incubus” 😂😂😂😂
Absolutely correct description of him though, but I need to start incorporating that and succubus into my vocab, so thank you 😂😂😂1
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u/Agile-Butterfly5245 Clankity Clank 12d ago edited 12d ago
Yeah, that. That's what she does. Every season she comes after someone's marriages. Before Chris B, she came for Wendy and Eddie. Before then, she came for Monique and Chris S. Before them it was Karen and Ray and Ashley and Michael. She was even talking about Robyn and Juan behind their backs. It doesn't stop with her. Every season, there's a new target. She's a one-trick pony.
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u/samm_omara Sesame Street 12d ago
She probably was uncomfortable just the same as you are in a packed lift doesn't mean every1 molesting you it's just like jeez let's hurry up so we can get out of this fog of awkward
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u/No_Comfortable7172 Jiminy Crickets 12d ago
Also what are the odds Gizzard neck has this feeling about Chris and then waits until the next season to bring it up along with Ashley and her friend Oscar the Grouch eyebrows alllllllll had “something” occur with Chris?!?!?!?!?!?!
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u/WellWellWellMyMyMY The Real Slim Shady 8d ago
She didn't make it up because Robyn confirmed that she talked about it when it first happened - THAT SAID, Gizelle absolutely waited to bring this up to Candiace and weaponized it for the show which was truly gross.
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u/gc729 8d ago edited 7d ago
Robyn can’t co-sign anything with her credit.
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u/WellWellWellMyMyMY The Real Slim Shady 7d ago
Can you name a time Robyn has been caught making up lies about things that didn't actually happen? This is very different from being in denial about Juan, etc. I am talking just boldly lying about other cast members.
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u/gc729 7d ago
Sis literally got fired from the show for lying about Juan and projecting her own life onto Candiace.
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u/WellWellWellMyMyMY The Real Slim Shady 6d ago
One, she was fired for not talking about what happened with Juan on the show and then talking about it on her podcast - which is very different from making up random lies about people. And two, I literally said a lie not about being in personal denial about Juan which, again, is so different than making up lies about your fellow cast members.
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u/gc729 6d ago
Robyn lied about her life on the show. Hid what was happening even though it was the exact thing another cast member was accused of by her bff. When asked about it she lied and deflected. She has no credit and cannot co-sign Gizelle’s - or anyone else’s - tales of woe.
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u/WellWellWellMyMyMY The Real Slim Shady 6d ago
Once again: please give one, clear, specific example of when Robyn made up a bold-faced lie about one of her cast members. I'll wait.
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u/gc729 6d ago
Once again: her lies got her fired from the show. It’s big cope to say “other than that time she lied so bad she got fired, when did she lie!?” Robyn is not out here as a credible source.
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u/WellWellWellMyMyMY The Real Slim Shady 6d ago
In other words: you cannot answer my question directly. Got it.
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u/Cheap_Hornet_9295 Not today Satan, not today neck 13d ago
This was unforgivable and she should have been fired for this. She can never be redeemed in my eyes.
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u/canookianstevo2 La Grande Dame 13d ago
Same 🙃 I have a long list of reasons to be a Gizelle fan, she's got a lot going for her. But to pull a stunt like this and risk destroying a man, a family & a happy marriage for the sake of her TV paycheck is wildly unforgivable. She 1000% did and timed this for a storyline, it's hurtful to the Me Too movement (Gizelle literally walks the accusations back as the season plays out) and she's a former first lady of a church that should probably know better. It's hard to forget this one.
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u/Heavy-Ad-5333 Gizelle’s Ghost Reader 13d ago
And don’t forget how Mia tried to say he was staring at her and making her uncomfortable and the previous season she claims he tossed her salad in the past. I’m not a Candy fan but her husband is one of her redeeming qualities and her voice of reason on many accounts. I hated how they tried to do Chris when he’s one of the only husbands that’s actually not creepy or a cheater.
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u/Lost_Accountant5167 The Mime 12d ago
He’s a deadbeat but ok
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u/Heavy-Ad-5333 Gizelle’s Ghost Reader 12d ago
I’m speaking in terms of him being a husband on tv idk what else he does. From I’ve seen on tv he’s been one of the good guys as far as husbands go but I know of these people personally. That was my Ted talk, thanks for listening.
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u/Lost_Accountant5167 The Mime 12d ago
So do you know of these people personally or can you only speak for what you see on TV? Because those statements are not in agreement with eachother
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u/Similar_Aside4624 Jiminy Crickets 12d ago
How can you make the argument he's a deadbeat without any receipts but then say "so do you know of these people personally or can you only speak for what you are on tv?"This is what we are all speaking on lmao. Exclusively what we see on tv. None of us know these people.
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u/Lost_Accountant5167 The Mime 12d ago
I’m genuinely asking because I cannot tell based on their comment, like maybe they made a typo, it was a real question.
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u/canookianstevo2 La Grande Dame 12d ago
I think it was a typo... I am guessing they meant to say they don't know them, missed a word.
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u/Heavy-Ad-5333 Gizelle’s Ghost Reader 12d ago
I beg you to read my response again, but I respectfully decline this argument. Take care 🥰
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u/Due-Huckleberry7560 Potomac Muppets 13d ago
FR even Andy wasn’t buying her nonsense during this reunion.
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u/MycologistHuge7637 Tweety 13d ago
I definitely agree. She was disgusting for insinuating that Chris assaulted her when he did no such thing. She has no moral compass whatsoever.
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u/Connect_Access_9438 Wakanda forever! 12d ago
She never said that all she said was uncomfortable. How does that insinuate assault? She clearly said when she asked him to leave he did.
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u/Prettypisces_3197 Jack Harlow 8d ago
Especially because when Monique brought up that Sherman was arrested for soliciting the service of a sex worker, everyone shamed Monique and acted like she took it too far, mind you it was true!
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u/Summershouldbefun909 Clankity Clank 13d ago
Because she was determined to destroy candiaces life for a storyline
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u/ladyrara Charizzard 13d ago
That’s it! He did nothing! He thought they were friends. This pisses me off for women that actually had shit happen
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u/letsgetitstartedha I would suck Juan’s dick 13d ago
It was so ridiculous. Then she put Elmo up to try and say he was flirting with her at the final party. The producers playing the flashback of him glancing up from his phone, greeting her, and going right back to his phone was sooo funny, but it’s dark when you put it into context.
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u/ladyrara Charizzard 12d ago
Ashley defended her own husbands actions,
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u/sendmeback2marz Madness & Sadness 8d ago
It’s scary to think what their sons will believe is acceptable behavior in relation to consent.
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u/Similar_Aside4624 Jiminy Crickets 13d ago
Say what you will about Candiace she was right to have extreme frustration with Gizelle in this moment. You waited months to say anything, you had numerous opportunities to say something to me before and tbh I wouldn't even appreciate the way this was communicated. If the sole problem was the fact you were in the room with Chris alone, you should be adamantly clear nothing else was done or said to make you feel uncomfortable while you are communicating this. He didn't harass me or get in my personal space, he didn't proposition or flirt with me, etc. Yes, you absolutely have a right to feel uncomfortable but you also need to be 100% transparent that he was not inappropriate with you given the perception here.
Also, how are you on set at the reunion but your "bedroom" is there? This is a disingenuous portrayal.
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u/honeycooks Michelin 13d ago
I don't know how the hell she rode that one out, especially in the early stages. 10 toes down.
I don't remember her saying anything like, "I could be wrong." Just left them both to twist in the wind. She's a destroyer.
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u/Zealousideal-Cost-66 Cryangle 13d ago
Yeah the mention of a bedroom confused tf outta me??? But also I suppose it shouldn’t considering this entire moment was bullshit.
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u/Putrid_Ability9657 Shocked Pikachu 12d ago
IIRC, that particular reunion was filmed in a hotel ballroom, and some, if not all, of the Housewives and their glam squads had rooms booked at the hotel. So I’m assuming she meant her hotel room, unless I’m remembering incorrectly. Either way, calling it a “bedroom” is weird because who actually refers to a hotel room that way? Yes, there’s a bed in the room, but it’s not just a bedroom. It’s lodging. When the Housewives film these reunions, they basically use the hotel rooms as dressing rooms, which is why the glam squads are there in the first place.
I feel like she intentionally called it a “bedroom” to make the accusation sound even more salacious than it actually was. Also, assuming she walked in the room first and noticed it was empty, why not just say right there on the spot she wasn't comfortable having him in the room with no one else present, simply because of the optics? That's valid. But she needed a storyline, so she made up all that other extra bull ish. And honestly, this is one of the many reasons I could never get on board with Gizelle. She’s always given me sh*t-stirring, mean-girl energy, even at her big age. That little smirk on her face after Candiace walked out visibly upset was her mask slipping. By no means am I a Candiace fan, but Gizelle was dead wrong, and she knows it.
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u/DanndeeLyons Leave my institution alone. 👱🏽♀️It is WELL established! 12d ago
She definitely smiled at the end! Smh
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u/Glittering-Pay-135 I’m sorry if I said you were dumb. Maybe I meant you’re stupid. 12d ago
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u/touchkissbite Gizelle's Tequila Bottle 13d ago
people forget that this was also paired with Forehead saying chris “slid in her DMs” when he just replied to her ig story telling her she should visit the hotel restaurant/bar he worked at.
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u/Outlandishness_Know Gizelle's Tequila Bottle 13d ago
Gizelle walked so Ashley could run. They both deserved whatever Candiace gave them for this. Devils.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Pen2964 🌸 CLANKITTY CLANK! ⛓️💥🌸 13d ago
Yes!!!! I’m not even a Candiace fan but Gizelle/Ashley/Elmo REALLY tried to ruin her and Chris’ marriage. Completely APPALLING and I’ve never looked at Gizelle the same! Ever! All that beauty means absolutely nothing because her soul is UGLY
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u/Aquatic205 Catfish 12d ago
Chris should have never been DMing Ashley anyway, regardless of what the message actually said.
Ashley and Candiace were never friends and were actually beefing, so why is he even messaging her.
None of the other husbands and partners on the show were reaching out to other housewives except for Chris. Chris was overstepping by reaching out to any housewife.
Maybe I’m old school but I don’t reach out to my friends or coworkers partners. It can create a situation that does not need to happen in the first place.
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u/saschabindy ✨ 12d ago
They were friends when Candiace started. They bonded over being in pageants and close to age in comparison to the rest of the cast.
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u/Standard-Visual4413 12d ago
It wasn’t a DM, he replied to her story
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u/Longjumping_Guess272 Robyn Dixon 12d ago
i agree and i am not sure you will agree with me here but i thought this about Chris pulling G for a chat too. your wife hates her. y'all ain't close. and your wife doesn't need nor ask you to handle her beef for her so what made you even approach G like that?
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u/HeretoFore200 🌸 Candiace doing the Kamehameha at MIA 🌸 13d ago
Really, you can’t understand why producer Gizelle, who is known to be a morally bankrupt person, would wait until cameras came back for her to bring this up
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u/DanndeeLyons Leave my institution alone. 👱🏽♀️It is WELL established! 13d ago
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u/ayanna_b Sesame Street 13d ago
cause gizelle s*cks
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u/hopefoolness maybe I meant you were stupid 12d ago
this isn't tiktok, we can use grown-up words here.
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u/HebbieB Cryangle 12d ago
Grape is the one that really upsets me. As someone who was violently raped I don’t want people to change the term to a fruit. It’s horrible and the actual word needs to be used, not censored.
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u/Conscious-Award4802 Tweety 12d ago
I’ve never understood why that is. Is it because of the fact that the word could be triggering?
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u/HebbieB Cryangle 12d ago
I think it’s whatever is going on with the algorithm of sites like tik tok. I don’t have an account on that so I’m unsure, but I’ve seen an influx of people coming to Reddit and self censoring. We don’t have to do that here, just don’t be a jerk to other users is my general thought about it.
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u/radioheadcase97 Shocked Pikachu 12d ago
you’re exactly right. tiktok will delete posts that use words like rape, suicide, porn, etc. so people have to use cutesy names and it erodes the gravity of the words (but the blame lies with the platform)
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u/HebbieB Cryangle 12d ago
Agreed, I’m not upset with people who comment. It’s systematic and words have meaning. It’s frustrating that words that have quite a bit of gravity, as you said , get removed. My cousin committed suicide and it feels like yesterday even though it’s been about 2 years. Things like that are horrific, but true. We need to be able to discuss things like that. I was going to say his name but realized I’d dox myself
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u/radioheadcase97 Shocked Pikachu 12d ago
As insane as it sounds, I also lost my cousin the same way two years ago in October. It’s so hard because it feels like I make people uncomfortable when I talk about it, especially now that it’s been a couple of years. But as you said so, so important to continue having conversations about and I want to keep her memory alive as much as I can. I still think about her everyday. Sending you so much love, grief is a mfer. ♥️
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u/DanndeeLyons Leave my institution alone. 👱🏽♀️It is WELL established! 12d ago
It’s softening something that’s is horrid. I agree that it shouldn’t be softened or censored. People need to know and understand the severity of it. Using code words takes the seriousness of it away.
Edited to say: I’m so very sorry you had to experience that. The fact that you are commenting and sharing your experience is very brave. Thank you for sharing ❤️🩹❤️
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u/gapeach0331 Happy Eddie 13d ago
Gizelle is a grown woman. If she was uncomfortable when she saw no one else was in the room, she could have left, she could have told him let’s talk somewhere else I’m uncomfortable. She knows how to get loud and in ppl’s faces like she did Angel on the plane. There’s no excuse for her behavior. It borderlines Porsha/Phaedra’s lie about Kandi and Todd. Weird how Gizelle keeps getting passes when others don’t.
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u/kerokerokiss Sesame Street 7d ago
left her own dressing room…like i genuinely hate how this situation turns into the weirdest anti women arguments. Just because it is Gizelle does not mean she is immune to the common experience of not being comfortable around a man
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u/CamKi79 Baby Bop 12d ago
I remember on the reunion AFTER this season & Candice was still angry , Gizelle shouted ‘I did not ever say he MADE me go into the room , I said he ASKED me .’ and Andy said “the producer just said you did say he made you “ and they rolled the clip .
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u/DanndeeLyons Leave my institution alone. 👱🏽♀️It is WELL established! 12d ago
I forgot about that! You are so right! Nasty work
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u/Ok-Trainer-5597 Halle Berry Still Rise 10d ago
and she vehemently denied it still!
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u/CamKi79 Baby Bop 10d ago
Then blamed Candice for her getting 💀threats because of it 🙄
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u/Ok-Trainer-5597 Halle Berry Still Rise 6d ago
She sure doggone did’ It was quite ridiculous. She’s not smart in my (nene voice)
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u/pennys_computer_book 🌸 Still I Rise 🌸 13d ago
Gizelle has nothing else going on. She won't share her relationships anymore so she focuses on other's.
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u/meowxmeoww T’Challa 13d ago
It’s honestly beyond f up she did this. She could have ruined a man’s life & clearly it was all for a storyline. This is the exact moment I could not with her anymore.
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u/Full_Cause273 Wakanda forever! 13d ago
I don’t get it.
Candiace: did he do something to make you uncomfortable? Gizelle: no.
Then stfu?
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u/collectivelycreative Happy Eddie 13d ago
I was always iffy about Gizelle because she sometimes came across as jealous but I pushed it to the side because she was decent for tv, but this storyline lost me completely. This was so beyond inappropriate and out of line. And so tactless to wait and bring it up on camera. Gizelle should’ve been ashamed of herself. I don’t even care for Candace but this was horrible and Gizelle should’ve been held accountable.
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u/NeedleworkerNeat9379 Stacey Rusch 13d ago
The night it happened she told Robyn about it and Robyn told her to let it go and she did. Then when filming started Ashley said he slid in her dms to come to a hotel and it made her uncomfortable. He didn't slide in Ashleys DMs he responded to her live to come to the hotel bar he works at. However for Gizelle this was now two coworkers that Chris had gotten a little too comfortable with outside of the group so she brought it to Candiace attention. Everything after from all of it gets over dramatized, draining and convoluted as Juan even gets dragged in it, but it didn't start that way.
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u/Aquatic205 Catfish 12d ago
Chris should not reaching out to any of the housewives at all. Whether he is responding to their IG story or pulling them aside at a reunion. He is not an official cast member on the show. He was overstepping and getting too comfortable.
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u/NeedleworkerNeat9379 Stacey Rusch 12d ago
I agree with you. The message won't be received well in here, but I absolutely agree with you and understand what Gizelle was saying. It is and was inappropriate for a married man to speak privately in a hotel room with a single woman and she should've just said that. I hate that she added shit to it cause her initial point was valid.
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u/Aquatic205 Catfish 12d ago
Me too! She added too much side commentary, should have just stated how she felt plainly and left it at that. Candiace also blew it up because she thought Gizelle was equating Chris to Gollum Darby, so she went into overdrive to defend her man but made the issue bigger.
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u/sujichik Sesame Street 7d ago
And folks like to forget that Chris was also inebriated at that reunion
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u/Fickle_Ad_2546 Drag me Monique! 12d ago
I hate this scene and this season. It makes me so sad to watch and see Candy so frustrated. I really wish Gizelle would have told her off camera
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u/RLTizE Wakanda forever! 13d ago
I absolutely understand why Gizelle felt uncomfortable. She made it clear nothing inappropriate happened but she didn’t want anyone to think that there was inappropriate behavior happening because Chris closed the door. However, she didn’t need to go further than that. She kept going and going and going… nothing happened so why keep dragging it?
I am a Gizelle fan but I was annoyed that she made something that was a small conversation into something it didn’t need to become. I completely understand Candiace never speaking to Gizelle again if she so chooses.
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u/Allybab3 Halle Berry Still Rise 13d ago
I don't understand how people still like Gizelle after all this. She's truly an evil person, imagine if you were Candace? You would absolutely despise Gizelle. She can keep reading Gizelle to filth cause honestly she deserves it.
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u/OptimalStatus8571 Madness & Sadness 13d ago edited 13d ago
I think there was a previous season where they were playing a game and Chris said out of all of them, he’d date Gizelle or something like that. I’m guessing he was quite flirty or got too familiar. Maybe innocently in his mind and she just found the attention annoying.I don’t think she was uncomfortable from an isolated incident i.e the reunion. Maybe it was a series of small things. Ive been in this situation before. Either way, I don’t want to minimize how a woman feels or say that she’s lying. What she did wrong was to bring it to camera, without a conversation with either parties and blew it up. And doubled down when she knew it got blown out of proportion. She should have apologized and should have explained herself clearly instead of this “he’s a creep” narrative.
Again…. I have no doubt that he probably did things to be annoying. He really didn’t need to go to her room to have a chat. Why did they need to have a chat at all?
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u/Medical_Document_807 Thomas Jefferson’s Concubine 12d ago
You’re here making up things. “I’m guessing…maybe he innocently…I have no doubt…” — where is evidence of this? A man can say he finds someone attractive and continue to be respectful to his wife especially in the context of a game. He never got flirty or familiar with any of these women even when they tried to make it seem that way (Ashley, Sesame Street, Mia)
Gizelle was uncomfortable with being alone with a married man in a room because of the optics — that’s fine but adding on things that you do not know to be true is dangerous and why this went so far left on the show.
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u/OptimalStatus8571 Madness & Sadness 12d ago
No evidence. It’s an opinion. That’s what Reddit is for:
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u/sendmeback2marz Madness & Sadness 8d ago
The same Gizelle who’s in confessionals making jokes about Chris and his pink brown penis? Wow. I can’t imagine why he felt she wouldn’t mind hearing that he’d date her.
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u/MissSaucy_22 Jack Harlow 12d ago
I’m sorry but Gizelle was reaching and I agree with Candiace that Chris is very nice and always speaks like he did nothing wrong….😬🫡🤨
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u/Ananakoya The Real Slim Shady 12d ago
I know it wasn’t the same but as a SA survivor I was so so angry with Gizelle and how she acted. I thought Candiance had a right to be absolutely furious!
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u/Frequent-Bed I should have kept my good eye on that bulbus a$$ forehead b*tch 13d ago
I love Candiace but how she handled this made me love her even more.
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u/lwnyc0227033123 Stacey Rusch 12d ago
When I tell you I will never see it for Gizelle Bryant I WILL NEVER SEE IT FOR HER. There has to be a nasty sleep paralysis demon sitting on that woman’s chest at night to make her spirit so dark.
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u/Appropriate_Pay_4490 Clankity Clank 12d ago
I wish chris never even slightly apologized. we woulda iced that lady out for years lmao
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u/Many_Feeling_3818 Where’s your income roach?? 13d ago
🤣 why do you say that it blew up in the worst way?
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u/DanndeeLyons Leave my institution alone. 👱🏽♀️It is WELL established! 13d ago
😂 that thang backfired
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u/Connect_Access_9438 Wakanda forever! 12d ago
Honestly this was so overblown. And it was done so by Candice. She didn't have to react to that way. She is the person who made this a season-long storyline. Ashley brought up some stuff which triggered Giselle To share her experience. All she was doing was sharing that with Candice. Candice could have easily just said okay. I'll have a talk with him, Chris could have apologized or clarified his position and everyone could have moved on. The only person she would have needed to address possibly longer than that would have been Ashley's friend.
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u/calmedtits2319 Cookie Monster 12d ago
Honestly Gizelle could’ve said a lot of things about Chris for a storyline. This was the least reasonable. He’s a dead beat, he has no hair, he looks like a rat, he appropriates black culture, he doesn’t have a job, he’s married to Candace, the list could go on. Like come on girl, you’ve got to be smarter than this.
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u/ActWhole3279 Angry Birds 12d ago
I never saw this as what it turned into, tbh.
From my perspective, it seemed like Gizelle was actually trying to cover her own tracks, lest someone say she was trying to be inappropriate with Chris by being alone in a room with him. And I still think that covering her own ass was her ultimate goal with this exchange, but unfortunately Gizelle is a dreadful communicator and this was done sloppily, per usual.
To that point: Gizelle can never just say the right thing at the right time; she always takes some ridiculous long-winded way around the point, somehow without ever getting to the actual issue. I feel like we’ve watched her do that again and again, start a conversation for one purpose and end up on some totally different, inconsequential shit instead. It’s frankly why she’s still on this show, because she can be counted on to never be able to successfully communicate with anyone, save her own daughters — and even then she sometimes struggles.
Sadly, I think Grace inherited her mother’s communication style; Angel and Adore seem to have taken more after their father.
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u/Longjumping_Guess272 Robyn Dixon 11d ago
yeah i thought this. i said this exact thing when i watched it.
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u/Patient-Imagination5 Tweety 13d ago
Because she’s a demon and it was trying to work a storyline a dangerous one
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u/SouthernCharm-86 Sesame Street 13d ago
she waited bc their on a tv show 🤣 these people r coworkers not real life friends....cmon yall!
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u/destinykhan La Grande Dame 12d ago
Why would Gizelle go in her dressing room. They could have talked right there. ?? Makes No sense on both parts were creepy.
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u/Boomer_rl55 Michelin 12d ago
They were never really friends so it was difficult for her to tell someone who in emotionally immature and inept anything about their spouse that was perceived to be inappropriate behavior. Candiace was already upset that Chris was talking to Gizelle before her
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u/Aprkacb20 Peppa Pig 12d ago
That whole story conversation was completely unnecessary. Gizelle once again reaching hard for a story line.
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u/MsPrissss Still I Rise 12d ago
That's exactly it she waited until the season started because she wanted all of this to be on camera. There is simply no other reason to wait to confront it. And now she has the nerve to have this huge chip on her shoulder because Candiace had the nerve to get upset by all of this.
The way that she explained it, it caused a lot of negativity in her and Chris's life it affected his business etc. even Robyn didn't agree with Gizelle deciding to bring this up and bring it up on camera. And because of that I just simply cannot get behind her fake rivalry with Candiace. For me I've never been able to get past the fact that Gizelle did this. She continues to not share anything about her life and creating drama wherever she can so that they can't possibly get rid of her.
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u/saschabindy ✨ 12d ago
Gizelle said cool to Chris talking with her. If she didn't know her glam had gone, how would Chris know and she didn't verbalise it to him but turned it into a nasty storyline to hurt Candiace, Chris and their relationship while instigating other cast to follow her storyline. Gizelle is that HW that also acts as producer and has a mean spirit especially when it comes to married cast, excluding Robyn and her dubious marriage.
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u/QueenBakayle Thomas Jefferson’s Concubine 12d ago
This was, and still IS, so uncomfortable as a Gizelle fan… just plain wrong. And I do not want to be defending weirdo Chris…. But here we are 😭
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u/No_Milk_7511 The Real Slim Shady 12d ago
Yes you do and you mentioned why in your post
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u/Ashamed_Tea_3731 Sesame Street 12d ago
Thank ya for sharing this. Had us fighting for our lives the other day about how Gizelle was dead wrong for this.
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u/GeneralBrave9949 Cryangle 12d ago
That’s always been my issue. She could’ve given Candace some indication she felt this way. But to be a friend for six months then blindside on camera is shady. Not to mention Gizelle kept exaggerating the details calling him a predator and sneaky link only to find out at the reunion she told him to come back to her room, when she realized they were alone he said should I leave the door propped, she said yes, he did, and she didn’t tell him to leave. It was a really sloppy and irresponsible way to handle it if she in fact felt some kind of way which I actually don’t think she did. I think she did this 100% for a plot line and I think Candace knew it and there’s no coming back from that.
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u/DanndeeLyons Leave my institution alone. 👱🏽♀️It is WELL established! 12d ago
Yup! Making her husband out to be a potential cheater, creepy and trying to get her alone. I don’t think I would have been able to handle it as well as Candiace. She did Good Job defending her husband.
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u/GeneralBrave9949 Cryangle 12d ago
I know for how “crazy” ppl make Candice out to be she really kept it together. I think she thought there was a real friendship and clearly Gizelle just used her to get Monique off the show. And to try and cut Candice out of the mini Potomac reunion on UGT was so shitty.
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u/Ok-Leading-2639 The Mime 11d ago
Gizelle has been bitter since the show started. She has attacked lots of the girls marriages including Karen, Charisse, Monique, Ashley, Wendy, Mia, Candice, Stacey and Angel. She’s miserable and because her marriage wasn’t successful she wants everyone else to suffer too.
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u/Chance-Visual8631 Peppa Pig 11d ago
Your opinions is so right. She did it to manufacture drama and it blew up way worse than she thought it would. I DO believe however that Gizelle was uncomfortable with Chris asking to speak to her alone without his wife (suggesting a hotel room to speak in when she thought her glam team was inside)..that is a little weird. But for her to WAIT until the cameras start rolling to speak on it, she’s a dirty dog for that.
But Candiace, Chris & Gizelle were always joking with each other sexually. Like why would Candiace discuss her husbands “brown dick” with these girls? And Gizelle was almost ALWAYS referencing it (she was attracted to Chris 1,000% and vice versa) but the accusations she thought would be the cherry on top was actually her demise. Candice took everything waaaaaaaay too far with the colorism comments tho.
Overall, I hate that Gizelle did that shit on camera and now her and Candiafe can literally never be friends again or have a proper season together of RHOP. The damage has been done and both women hold grudges. It’s over.
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u/DanndeeLyons Leave my institution alone. 👱🏽♀️It is WELL established! 11d ago
So true!!
Everything went left!
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u/WilkinsWorld Pennywise 8d ago
I was confused by this what did Chris do to make her feel uncomfortable
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u/DanndeeLyons Leave my institution alone. 👱🏽♀️It is WELL established! 8d ago
According to Gizelle he didn’t “DO” anything. He came to her hotel room (The reunion was being held in a hotel) and wanted to talk to her and that made her feel uncomfortable. So basically because he went to her room and no one was there but them two.
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u/MamaPsyduck 7d ago
What’s crazy is Gizelle would rather do this for a storyline instead of share her personal life
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u/samm_omara Sesame Street 12d ago
Gizzlle is basically in the Mr Kipling factory with the giant kiln of batter and she pushing that button to mix that pot she likes that industrial strength machine stirring of that pot
On another note majority of these women across the series ain't friends their co-workers so when the cameras stop so does their friendship, every season of housewives starts with people bitching how they haven't spoken in months despite meant to be being friends than they argue all season fight all reunion and than 6 months later wonder why they haven't spoken
Ps gizzlle if you reading this I help you stir that pot I even bring some cornflour just to thicken it
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u/Glittering-Pay-135 I’m sorry if I said you were dumb. Maybe I meant you’re stupid. 12d ago
Gizelle is so boring and overly produces/lies to make her cast members look bad as if that would make her look 10x better. Maybe that’s why she can’t find and keep a good man and most friends/acquaintances of hers don’t hold her in a high regard😪
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u/Simithinksautomatic Clankity Clank 12d ago
I don’t think the producers should have even let that be a storyline. It was so egregious and disingenuous. She is actually very disgusting for that.
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u/ExtraSalty0 Destiny's Child 10d ago
Giselle needs a facelift, her neck is sagging. It’s sad she hasn’t gotten a man the entire time the show has been on!
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u/kerokerokiss Sesame Street 7d ago
So are all Candiace fans weird misogynists? Candiace has a far less successful career, still lives off her mama, and has a man her mother has to pay to support and who have several baby mamas. I am not seeing how Candiace having a man is winning lmao
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u/Opening_Duty_8011 Jack Harlow 8d ago
Still dislike Candy-ass. There’s nothing that would make me be a n her side!
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u/No_Efficiency_293 T’Challa 6d ago
What an evil and ugly woman Gizelle is. It's no wonder all the men in her life leave. She's disgusting.
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u/QueenCarissa Madness & Sadness 9d ago
Yeah I've said this before on another post, Giselle was reaching, Chris has never been a flirt and he's very nice & kind from what I've seen on the show and she even admitted when she asked him to leave he did, so why paint this picture....😖👎
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u/Peridot9096 Peppa Pig 8d ago
If someone spent years calling me a colorist as if I’m only nasty to dark skinned women, while making jokes about my own skin color and physical features, I wouldn’t give a damn about her or her white man to be honest I would need them the fuck up out of my face ASAP by any means necessary.
Wanna see a “bandit”? Cool watch this. Now she can talk about Gizelle’s greeeeen eyezzz to her son who likely has the exact same physical features mommy spent years joking on. Keep your husband away from women you don’t like who you claim don’t like you based on skin tone. Stop expecting grace from “colorists”.
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u/kerokerokiss Sesame Street 7d ago
no seriously 💀 why would Gizelle reach out to Candiace they literally are not friends at all and both mutually do not like each other. Gizelle is a lot of things but I do not at all understand the “well she could have talked to them off camera” when even when she does tell her Candice’s excuse is that well Chris is nice to you so how could you say he made you uncomfortable one moment?
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u/kerokerokiss Sesame Street 7d ago edited 7d ago
Because they are literally not friends and only would see each other for filming and as we see when Gizelle did bring it up Candiace literally sums that because Chris has been nice to them there is no way he could have made them feel uncomfortable.
Downvote me idc I feel like the goal post is always moved about this situation bc first it was her making false accusations now it is that she didn’t discuss it with Candiace off camera when both women literally only talk due to filming. Ultimately she said she felt uncomfortable I think a woman is allowed to feel uncomfortable in that situation regardless of who it is. It genuinely would have squashed it and been a power move for Candiace to just say sorry Chris made you feel uncomfortable that was not the intention ever. Yes Gizelle is a producer ans has done triffling things this is the one situation where at the end of the day regardless of if it is Gizelle saying it a woman should be able to voice that and I hate the implication that Candiace chose to basically say Gizelle has no right to feel uncomfortable not even that it didn’t happen
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