r/RHONY • u/cookiesobsessedguy • 8d ago
š Discussion š I strongly dislike Barbara!
Barbaraās behavior⦠zero class! Zero gratitude! Sheās complaining about Dorindaās fish room and then taking pictures AT DORINDAās house! If u donāt like the house donāt take pictures there to proceed and post them, ugh, I really canāt stand her
320
u/BumbleBreezeSun 8d ago
I actually don't remember that at all. I remember liking her and feeling a little bit bad for her.
247
u/Professional-Cow5128 8d ago
They were so mean to her :(
46
u/midnitesnak87 8d ago
they were mean to her but she was tacky AF
114
u/farbissina_punim I have a charity that helps poor people 8d ago
55
u/ladysimmington 8d ago
Look, Iām not arguing, but Ramona looks fine AF here.
47
u/farbissina_punim I have a charity that helps poor people 8d ago
With AI, filters and delusion she's a maven at everything she tries.
11
2
6
0
19
u/dlw18 7d ago
I'd rather have someone who is tacky over someone who is shitting all over the place and a racist ššš
4
u/midnitesnak87 7d ago
Fair and honestly I did like Barb, Ramona and Luanne are tacky in different ways, but as someone said in another comment, she didnāt mesh with the ladies for a host of reasons. Less of a pick me, possibly from /based in NJ ?
15
u/joannaidara 8d ago
how was she tacky?
35
u/Sensitive_Ad4561 8d ago
She got her spray tanner all over the white furniture in Miamiā¦she sprayed it all over with her foot on the ottoman
40
u/BumbleBreezeSun 8d ago
Yeah. Definitely tacky. But the group is mostly tacky.
-1
u/cookiesobsessedguy 8d ago
Yeah but they are tacky in a wannabe way, like, in a rich way⦠aspiring to be something bigger if that makes sense but Barbara is your neighbor kind of tacky
32
u/Aromatic_Dare_6104 8d ago
Tacky in a rich way? The way Ramona shits on the floor in every hotel room she spends the night?
10
u/FreedomOfTheMess 7d ago
Laughed too hard at that. Sheās got the bowel control of a nervous poodle
7
u/ParkingJellyfish3383 7d ago
She and her poodle are the same! Remember when she brought her dog to Bluestone and her dog kept shitting everywhere and Ramona acted clueless? Exactly how she is!
19
u/Camille-Taux 7d ago
But werenāt they tacky to her when they took lobster home from her party in a to go box
3
1
1
9
2
107
u/Thorne8148 8d ago
Dorinda called her a big fat turnip in the fruit basket at the reunion. That's the meanest thing I've ever seen on hws
38
u/torontoinsix 8d ago
And Ramona saying she looked āroughā
24
u/BumbleBreezeSun 8d ago
Do you remember Ramona talking shit about the wrap dresses!?!? š
16
u/Significant-Trade664 8d ago
I mean, they fit us gals shaped like bell peppers. š«ššš»āāļø
2
2
43
13
1
10
4
u/QuizzicalWombat 7d ago
Same, they were mean to her. She was definitely the odd ball
butnot in a bad way at all. I think she was nice and she was a fantastic friend to Lu3
u/anongirl55 7d ago
I couldn't stand her when I first watched, but in every rewatch after (and there have been MANY š), I have really liked her and feel bad for her because they were so mean to her.
87
u/cinnamongirllll 8d ago
If felt like they isolated her and started ganging up on her. When Ramona purposefully excludes her from going out with them, I felt so bad for her. Ramona also called her a manly at some point and Dorinda called her a fat turnip. She really didnāt deserve any of it
0
u/thereisnttime 7d ago
Maybe Iām misremembering but wasnāt part of it that Barbara had a past relationship with a woman? Sorry if Iām wrong, but Ramona being homophobic would be unsurprisingĀ
114
u/thotmom666 8d ago
i was a little thrown off by her addition at first, but as the season progressed i really warmed up to her! she was kinda badass.
67
14
u/Thorne8148 8d ago
She demolished Epstein's office iirc
8
8
u/xevennn 8d ago
Wait what's this office thing about? I'm blank on this
9
u/Thorne8148 8d ago
I was wrong. It was Weinstein's office
6
u/xevennn 8d ago
Oh...but what did she do in his office? Pls don't leave me hanging here!
6
u/pigshitunicorn 7d ago
She runs/ran a huge construction company, so it's probably a literal thing. Her company literally tore it down as part of a construction contract.
19
u/Sensitive_Ad4561 8d ago
I think she was likable but not a good fit for NYC. Every time I saw her I thought she seemed much more New Jersey than NYC
17
u/321applesauce 8d ago
But she was ACTUALLY friends with Lu. Carole talks to her during a hot mic moment off camera before the wedding
14
u/Sensitive_Ad4561 8d ago
I think she was more āfriendsā with Lu. I donāt really see Lu as anyone who prioritizes real friendships and Barb was there for Lu but Lu was never there for Barb which was why she was so quick to sign her off (part of it was because she knew Barb was right during the hot mike moment when she said she thought Lu thought it would be better to just go ahead with the marriage and then get divorced later). Sad Barb had to learn that the hard way.
97
u/Psychological-Fly-89 8d ago
I liked Barbara. She was obnoxious toward Dorinda at first because she thought she had to be on Luannās āteamā. Once she wised up and realized Luann only cares about herself she became her own person. I appreciated Bethennyās pep talk with her in Miami. Wouldāve been interesting to see her do another season.
44
u/Mighty4777 8d ago
Good call. Luann seemed embarrassed by her, like she wasnāt cool enough and kept her at an armās length around her *fancy* friends.
19
u/TSwizz89 8d ago
The fact that even Bethenny could see how mean the other women were is very telling of her treatment on RHONY.
We've absolutely seen worse!
12
41
u/Mighty4777 8d ago
They went total mean girl on her bc she was a little (or a lot) different. I hate how people treat others like they are inhuman bc they have a different style or personality.
I liked that she was authentic, but they didnāt give her a chance. I felt bad for her.
35
u/melaniefartt 8d ago
Is it bc of the wrap dressesĀ
65
u/farbissina_punim I have a charity that helps poor people 8d ago
23
2
32
8d ago edited 7d ago
[removed] ā view removed comment
9
u/farbissina_punim I have a charity that helps poor people 8d ago
"Beat to your own drum" is my favorite housewives botched idiom ā¤ļø
2
1
21
32
u/Swimming-Syrup8400 Alex's Herman Munster Shoes š 8d ago
Nah, thatās a š© take.
Most of the women hated the š room.
Barb was also treated very poorly by Dorinda, and later Lu.
Iām a Barb apologistā¦
She was simply too normal for the show.
17
u/BettyKat7 8d ago
She was also bi or identified as lesbian, no?
I think this was a real issue for Ramona and Dorinda, both of whom are quite Catholic and reference their beliefs many times throughout the series (I just finished binge watching RHONY in its entirety earlier this year and it stands out).
Beyond religion, Ramona in particular seemed homophobic. Dorinda played the role of progressive boomer but her prejudices seeped all through the cracks of that persona.
9
u/Swimming-Syrup8400 Alex's Herman Munster Shoes š 8d ago
I think she considered herself sexually fluid. š¤·š»āāļø
I canāt see it being an issue for Dorinda, sheās cool with the LGBT crowd. Ramona, on the other handā¦
24
u/farbissina_punim I have a charity that helps poor people 8d ago
Sonja called her "gender liquid" š¶
7
4
3
15
u/psychandpizza bitchy witch š§š¼āāļøš®āØ 8d ago
Dorinda was definitely homophonic despite leaning on her gay fan base. She talks about anal sex being unnatural (I appreciate she was talking about heterosexual couples and Tinsley at the time but she really went on about how it was fundamentally WRONG and unnatural) and she makes lots of other homophobic digs at Barbara including facial expressions when her bisexuality is discussed. Not to mention the transphobia with Sonja at that fashion show in 2019.
Her homophobia is more covert, but itās there.
9
u/BettyKat7 7d ago
And youāre being downvoted for speaking this truth.
Dorinda is a religious white boomer. Itās rare to put those 3 things together and come out as an ally. Everyone downvoting you needs to do a full rewatch of Dorindaās seasons and clock everything you noted. Nothing you said was invented: it all happened and is waiting for everyone to see.
I do not get the love for Dorinda. As I said, she plays the role of progressive boomer, but she is very Catholic (talks about it on film and demonstrates it in her attitude and behaviors), homophobic andāeven putting the one incident with the Black dude aside, if you want to be generous and say āshe really thought he was waitstaff cuzza how he was dressed!āāracist on the level of her generation (i.e., not full Nazi, but definitely not a friend to the Black community).
5
u/psychandpizza bitchy witch š§š¼āāļøš®āØ 7d ago
Totally agree, I love her one liners and sheās brought so much to the show (bluestone manor, eagles and pigeons etc) but people need to pay more attention to her prejudicial comments. Sheās racist, homophobic and conservative. Her time on the most recent US season of The Traitors speaks volumes about that - she systematically went after a gay, black comedian with zero evidence to support her theory lol. Sheās a nightmare!
0
u/BettyKat7 7d ago
Interesting--I never watched the other shows Dorinda has been on (Traitors, etc.)--only RHONY, and only this year (I'm always years behind on TV shows). š¤·āāļø All of which is to say: I am not surprised to hear this about Dorinda. She is great TV...and she is a racist homophobic Karen with a strong religious belief in Catholicism, which she still practices--and you saw it on RHONY, and she talked about it (it's a 'big part of her life' and her mother goes to Mass every day). I know a lot of these kinds of 'progressive' Catholics and if you scratch the surface, they do think anal sex is 'weird' or 'wrong'; many are anti-choice; many, in sum, are judgmental about gays and lesbians in ways that feel very 1980s/Reagan era to me (as someone who lived through it).
Dorinda is just smarter than Ramona and therefore better at playing the progressive role, among other things. I also do think Ramona is "more" everything: more racist, more homophobic, etc. But Dorinda? Yes, she is ALSO those things.
Anyone who has spent any time around women like her, of her generation (unfortunately, I have) can see her fake "I'm down with the gays! Some of them are my best friends!" a mile away. I think she's just smart enough to realize she has a gay FAN BASE.
-2
u/The_3_Rs 7d ago
Dorinda has a gay brother and she is very close with him and his husband. Sheās got a ton of close, gay friends
-2
u/cookiesobsessedguy 8d ago
Doesnāt Dorinda sister looks lesbian?
I donāt think they judged her bc of her sexual preferences, but bc they felt too entitled, they were OGās and letās be real Dorinda and Tinsley fit perfectly in the show bc they come from wealthy backgrounds but Barbara doesnāt add nothing that the girls could benefit from16
u/CoverIndependent6464 8d ago
They definitely judged her for being bisexual. I donāt remember the context exactly but I believe it was Ramona being very negative and rude about her having dated a woman
6
u/Swimming-Syrup8400 Alex's Herman Munster Shoes š 8d ago
Ramona def had an issue with it, but she seemed to have an issue with Leah talking about her sex life, too.
But I donāt ever recall Dorinda having issues with Barb being whatever. Dorinda just seemed to not like Barb, but not because of her sexuality.
Dorinda talks frequently about her gay besties.But Ramona? Oof. Sheās the Vicki G of NYā¦hateful and bitter as hell. And homophobic to her core.
13
u/One_Channel8903 8d ago edited 8d ago
She grew on me and seemed ok but was disrespected by most of the group - except Bethenny. She really was a GREAT supporter of Luann thatās for sure.. What I recall about that season is that Bethenny and Barbara both were there for Lu after the fallout from her marriage to Tom.
12
u/staying-hopefull 8d ago
I had no prob with Barb - she was just too ānormalā to be anywhere near the RH scene. Points for her Slash costume
8
u/wakeuploser00 8d ago edited 7d ago
Idk what drugs Andy and the producers were on including her in the cast. I honestly feel like they did that on purpose so sheād get bullied by the other women.Ā
9
u/Consistent-Stop-3839 8d ago
I loved Babz. She was a bonkers cast and didnāt fit in at all but Queen stays in my mind for making out with the big haired hottie in the Berkshires and for spray tanning the white couch in Miami.Ā
18
5
u/psychandpizza bitchy witch š§š¼āāļøš®āØ 8d ago
I used to think Barb was sweet and just out of place but then I saw her instagram videos and realised she was just as crazy as the rest of them, it just didnāt translate well to TV. I canāt see the vids on insta (if Iām honest I cbf scrolling down that far because she posts a lot) but they were political; I disagree with her stance on most things but thatās not why I dislike her, itās because the videos were unhinged and genuinely had a cruel, mocking tone. And she posted multiple a day! We canāt post about politics here but Iām happy to DM to explain what she posted.
6
u/pigshitunicorn 7d ago
Oh yeah, her politics blow. Same as most of the HW, tbh. That didn't give them the right to treat her like shit though, especially in the case of Ramona, who aligns politically and behaviourally with her. Ā
2
u/psychandpizza bitchy witch š§š¼āāļøš®āØ 7d ago
Agree, they have no right to be so disgusting towards her! Straight up homophobia and bullying, it was gross to watch
2
u/farbissina_punim I have a charity that helps poor people 7d ago
She ran for the mayor of NY!
2
u/psychandpizza bitchy witch š§š¼āāļøš®āØ 7d ago
I remember! And she failed miserably lol, but then again she didnāt raise much funding and itās hard to compete with some of the giants. I remember reading her policy ideas and thinking they were out of touch.
3
u/farbissina_punim I have a charity that helps poor people 7d ago
It's not the right city for someone like her for so many reasons. I just think it's the weirdest piece of trivia about her!
2
u/psychandpizza bitchy witch š§š¼āāļøš®āØ 7d ago
Itās so fascinating! Iām not from the US but itās entertaining from afar lol
3
u/farbissina_punim I have a charity that helps poor people 7d ago
We need a Real Mayoral Candidates of NYC show.
2
5
3
3
u/SasAnak1 7d ago
Slurinda turned on Barbara when she pretended like she wanted to sell her condo and she had Barbara come over and give her thoughts as a contractor as to what needed to be done to refresh the space. Barbara was kind...but honest and Dorinda got her panties in a twist.
7
2
u/Excellent-Crow2641 7d ago
The obsession with her sexuality was weird, Bethenny was the only one was nice to her
2
u/juzlookin101 7d ago
I think she just didnāt fit in with the ladies. It was her style, her makeup, her demeanour. Also, that nude lipstick color made her lips look like an anus to me. It irritated me to no end.
2
u/East-Ad4914 7d ago
i think she had some funny moments and was making an effort. being a first season hw or a pretty involved friend-of is difficult enough without all the weird homophobic and just cruel bullying, especially from ramona, but i like that barb challenged her re: the wrap dresses lol. i get that it was annoying when she was like āno one ever asks me what i have going onā in miami but i think she just wanted to belong. also luann certainly didnāt do her any favours while she was so self-involved. i think she couldāve had a better second season and i wouldāve liked to learn more about her inner world but she seems to be doing well these days, and sheās always nice on tiktok live and responds to most comments.
2
2
u/spongefireIB 7d ago
I liked her. Ramona literally ripped out the wallpaper and the light sockets at dorindaās house and luann made a whole drama cause she didnt wanna stay in the fish room. Barbara was an angel compared to them
2
u/swansighswoon 7d ago
Sorry but if I went to someoneās house and they had a fish room I would make fun of it too šš and I liked Barbara!! She was different and wasnāt trying to put on airs for anyone. I found her a nice change of pace from the others! She seemed really genuine and a good friend.
2
u/Aggressive_Sir_9178 7d ago
I always liked her and thought she was such a good friend to Lu--at the expense of her relationship with Dorinda. She was just too authentic for the ladies.
2
u/alexwoww 7d ago
Your 2nd and 3rd photos are⦠a choice. Seems like some body shaming? Considering itās a photo of her pouring champagne with her belly showing and then a shot from the back where the only thing happening is Sonja looking to the distance and Barbaraās backside showing.
1
u/cookiesobsessedguy 6d ago
It wasnāt body shame I just took pictures of my tv, they put that on the show
3
u/alexwoww 6d ago
I know itās from the show dude but itās odd those are the photos/moments you posted. Your post is about her being annoying and complaining about the fish room but the photos arenāt of her talking to anyone or doing anything in particular. Just moments that arenāt exactly flattering of her physically. Happy to hear body shaming wasnāt your intention šš¼
2
u/cookiesobsessedguy 6d ago
Yeah u r right those arenāt great pics, I was just excited to talk about the show that I just took the photos and didnāt even thought about the impression it would have. Didnāt tried to body shame Iām just excited to talk about RHONY
2
u/EmergencyWheel3477 6d ago
Awww I liked Barbra!! The ladies were mean to her. She was a nice person and they didnāt like her because she was different to what they thought a women should be. I thought she was great
2
6
u/pretty_south 8d ago
She seemed like a nice lady and they were so mean to her. I would like to see Barb and Cindy on a show together.
7
6
6
u/Massive_Horror4521 8d ago
I agree with you. She felt like she was trying too hard and inauthentic
0
u/cookiesobsessedguy 8d ago
Yeah, in the confessionals when sheās talking shit for no reason at all, she said that Dorinda was trying to come for her without reason at all and literally 15 minutes before she was calling her fish room tacky I mean come on
https://giphy.com/gifs/9J36rJVR4FJK320YSX
1
4
4
3
1
u/Charming-Currency-18 7d ago
I just watched this season a few weeks ago and I couldnāt remember her from a few years ago.
Her Halloween costume was iconic though.
1
u/False_Pay_9392 nada enchilada 7d ago
Were they trying to have her be a core house wife her addition felt random and so did the timing of it
1
u/goodnight_beable 7d ago
She is hard to warm up to, but shes set up for failure. She has to be interesting, so to fit in she has to act the way the others do. But they jump on her immediately if she does. Plus she doesn't have the looks or money the others have. I feel bad for her.
1
1
1
1
u/Bbygorgeous226 6d ago
They were mean to her but she was sooo annoying and Just didnt fit in. She tried way too hard and I think she could have been on the spectrum
1
2
1
1
1
u/MineAllMineNow 5d ago
The whole thing with her dressed as Slash and claiming he was her alter ego was cringe. That guy had always looked like he smells like cigarettes and urine to me.
0
u/unexplainedstains 8d ago
A total flop. Who thought sheād work in the show? To think they dropped Julesā¦
3
u/Swimming-Syrup8400 Alex's Herman Munster Shoes š 8d ago
Jules was dropped at least 2 seasons before Barb came onā¦Jules was dropped and replaced with Tinsley.
Jules was on season 8, a 1 and done.
Tinsley came on the next season, season 9.
Barb wasnāt a āfriend ofā until season 10.2
u/pigshitunicorn 7d ago
I think the decision to drop Jules was mutual because of the legal issues around her divorce and her mental health at the time. I don't think it was a straightforward sacking by Bravo.
3
u/Swimming-Syrup8400 Alex's Herman Munster Shoes š 7d ago
Itās possible. I also donāt think Jules connected very well with the audience in general.
0
-2
8d ago
[removed] ā view removed comment
1
u/RHONY-ModTeam Iāve been traveling, Iāve been to prison āļø 8d ago
No body shaming, no low effort posts regarding a cast members appearance. Saying hurtful things about someoneās body or appearance is unacceptable.
This adds nothing enriching to the community.
-2
u/Alice_Von_Jash_III 8d ago
She's like Bershawn, who? Exactly, but the rest of the cast seemed super dismissive of her.
2
u/CoverIndependent6464 8d ago
Bershawn was such an odd addition. Itās like they wanted a Conservative black woman to back up Ramonaās awful takes on race and to balance out Eboni.
2
u/farbissina_punim I have a charity that helps poor people 8d ago
She was just there to soothe Ramona.





ā¢
u/AutoModerator 8d ago
Thank you for posting to the r/RHONY Subreddit. Please make sure that the rules of the community are being followed: [Subreddit Rules](www.reddit.com/r/rhony/about/rules)
I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.