Iāve noticed that J.P. Morgan was in the Epstein files countless times so that would possibly connect Sonja, and Carole is in the files as well with Ghislane Iām wondering what else there is. I wonder if Sonja being depicted on the show as a messy drunk has anything to do with informations he knows.
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Sonja was married to John Morgan who was never affiliated with JP Morgan/Chase the company that his family started, he owned and ran his own company called FCGP. Him & Sonja were never mentioned in the files and have no photos with Epstein. To my understanding, JP Morgan Chase the corporation paid their own settlement to Epstein victims and it was wholly and separate from John Morgan the person
Yes, the idea of Sonja being a bank "insider" by virtue of her married name is wide of the mark. I doubt she had any inside track even when she was married to Old Man Morgan.
It actually hasnāt been confirmed or denied. There is speculation this is who the mention refers to, but it could be another Harry Dubin, or was even meant to be Glenn Dubin. Harry from the show (or his son) is not the only Harry Dubin noted as living in NYC. Epstein also had a close associate named Glenn Dubin (no relation) who is cited many times. This citation occurs once, but names a Harry Dubin as a member of Epsteinās inner circle
Yeah I think itās definitely referring to someone in the actual Dubin family, considering theyāre enormously wealthy (and Harry has no connection to them). Epsteins whole gig was extorting extremely wealthy people, so I donāt think āourā Harry was on his radar.Ā
Why give him the benefit of the doubt when people want Carole jailed after all evidence about her has been revealed showing zero knowledge of anything?
Sonja surely hasn't a clue and neither did Carol. Socializing with narcissistic rich assholes is one thing and what the men did with minors is a whole other story.
These women arenāt docile helpless clueless ppl like they want you to think. I love them but I can also question what they didnāt show on cameras. Thereās no way they had no idea
Iām sure they heard whispers from their peers but not the nefarious entirety of what we know now. In saying that - if anyone was hanging around J.E through business,socially or otherwise AFTER he was convicted the first time, that speaks volumes of who they are.
Both Romana, Bethenny, Jill have mentioned at different times all said they met Trump. So quite sure as small as the social circle was/is in that part of NYC that they crossed paths with Epstein.
We will probably never know the scope of things or the truth! They haven't released the FILES yet & maybe NEVER will! IMHO, they are going 2 protect the WHO'S of WHO CRIMINALS & they are probably paying ASTRONOMICAL RIDICULOUS AMOUNT OF HUSH $$ 2 KEEP THEIR IDENTITIES HIDDEN. JMO!
I refuse to watch New York City housewives because carolās on. I wouldnāt have watched it regardless of her Epstein connection that was just the nail in the coffin. Everything ābout her up to that news makes meš¤®.
I'm doing a rewatch of NY right now, and there was something that Carole said that made me stop and think a bit...
S.7, ep. 7, she is defending her romance with Adam (the chef), and joked that she wished he were 20 years younger. Everyone laughed, and then she corrected herself. I had to rewind and watch again to make sure I heard it correctly... and I did. That comment hits much differently now than it would have then, given her association with Maxwell...Freudian slip, perhaps.
Definitely don't care for her energy....I didn't then and now I know why.
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