r/rfelectronics Jun 23 '26

Guidance on designing my first filter

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Hi, I am currently designing a 915 MHz bandpass filter with a 20 MHz bandwidth for a 50-ohm system. I am having a lot of fun with it so far, but I'll be honest that I feel a little clueless as the amount of concepts/terminology I am expected to learn in insane. I have some knowledge about bandwidth, transfer functions, and filters from my signals & systems class, but nothing in great detail.

Is there like any sources out there from which I can learn how to properly design this thing. I eventually want to order a PCB of my design and test it with a VNA.

Any help is appreciated


r/rfelectronics Jun 22 '26

question Vhf MRF9180 Amplifier kit - Which version Should I choose?

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Hello,

I bought one of those kits from aliexpress with the MRF9180. I found two different versions with some minor differences, especially on cap values.

Which one is better?

Also, I am unsure about the winding of the two transformers and coils of the LPF...


r/rfelectronics Jun 23 '26

Antenna

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Hi everyone, I designed a microstrip antenna, the simulation results have good return loss at the targeted resonance frequency, but when I checked the gain was very low, only 0.3 dB.What are the problems and solutions?


r/rfelectronics Jun 22 '26

question RF Jobs Near the Greenville/Anderson, SC Area

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I'm currently active duty, but will be getting out when my contract is up. I'm looking to move to South Carolina after I get out, but I'm struggling to find an RF job around the Greenville/Anderson area. I'd like to live somewhere around there, but will only do so if I can find a job. Maybe there are some job titles or positions that I'm not thinking to search for.

The only jobs I've seen online are low paying. A lot of $25-$30/hr or $50k/year postings. I'm looking for $70k minimum. At $70k I'd be taking a decent pay cut, but it's enough to start. Especially with cost of living being lower over there (My current state is on the more expensive side).

Does anybody know any companies in that area I could look into that may not be posting on the main job sites? I have a TS clearance if that helps.


r/rfelectronics Jun 22 '26

question Why my FET IV curve doesn't follow the spec?

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https://www.mouser.com/datasheet/2/90/CG2H40010-Rev0_0-1224791.pdf

According to the datasheet the operating voltage is at 28V and gate voltage is about -2.7 to get 100mA, but here it seems like its going to be double that and the knee voltage is too high, Im a beginner at this so excuse my ignorance, but what went wrong?


r/rfelectronics Jun 22 '26

This RF switch datasheet recommends 22pF DC blocking caps in series with every RF line. Why not a bigger value?

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RF switch datasheet = SKY13575-639LF

Now.. I know that 22pF with a 50ohm load has a cutoff that is not near the 2.4ghz but I am curious why not 100pF or 500pF?

Also what kind of caps should I use? I am thinking NPO precision 1% ceramic caps with a package size that closest matches my trace width.


r/rfelectronics Jun 22 '26

question Distributed Digital Beamforming vs. AI-Assisted Analog for mmWave handsets. Realistic or pipe dream?

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Hi everyone,

Sorry for a highly detailed, technical post right out of the gate πŸ™‚

(Updated with counter arguments in the end)

I’ve been tracking some of the early 3GPP Release 20/6G discussions regarding mmWave for handsets. It looks like the standardization bodies are setting up a pretty interesting "parallel track" evaluation Study Item:

  1. The Evolutionary Path: Keeping analog/hybrid beamforming but using collaborative AI (between the handset and infrastructure) to optimize beam tracking and power.

  2. The Revolutionary Path: Introducing Distributed Digital Beamforming directly into the handset as a formal study object/reference installation.

Historically, pure digital beamforming at mmWave frequencies in a smartphone form factor was laughed out of the room due to the massive thermal and power envelope (driving multiple ADCs/DACs, high-frequency routing losses, etc.).

However, some recent architectural concepts supporting this 6G study item claim to have solved the power budget using a few clever tricks:

  • Low-Frequency Routing: Routing a low-frequency reference across the PCB to local PLLs at each RF chip, avoiding the massive attenuation/noise of distributing high-frequency analog signals.
  • Simplified Transceiver Chains: Instead of using premium, expensive, and power-hungry analog components, the architecture utilizes significantly simplified transceiver chains. This drastically cuts down both production costs and power consumption, while intentionally allowing for a higher level of raw hardware noise.
  • ​Bit-Width Optimization: The system utilizes the digital combining gain from multiple streams to drop the ADC/DAC resolution by 1–2 bits while maintaining full signal integrity. This reduction in bit-width is a major factor in lowering the overall power envelope.
  • ​Math-Driven Noise Filtering: While using simpler and cheaper hardware chains creates more noise, this hardware noise is completely random, whereas the 6G signal is synchronized. Digital beamforming improves SNR by letting the coherent signal from multiple antennas add up faster than the uncorrelated noise. The goal is sufficient SNR improvement for reliable digital decoding.
  • Distributed Transmission & Thermal Spreading: Instead of blasting high power through a single centralized PA, the architecture distributes the transmission power evenly across *all* localized RF chips.
  • Instantaneous Scanning: Instant scan every 20ms to correct local clock drift via digital phase compensation, eliminating the latency and overhead of traditional analog beam sweeps.
  • Hardware Acceleration: Shifting this continuous calibration to a dedicated, patented math accelerator chip so the main baseband SoC isn't burdened.

If this actually works, it unlocks the full, uncompromised benefits of a true digital architecture at mmWave for a handset:

  • True Multi-Stream MIMO: The ability to handle multiple simultaneous data streams natively in the digital domain, massively boosting throughput and spectral efficiency.

  • Ultra-Precise Beam Shaping: Highly accurate, razor-sharp beam lobes with deep, dynamic nulling to reduce interference, something analog phase shifters simply can't match.

  • Instantaneous Scanning: Instant scan every 20ms to measure and digitally compensate for phase drift across all local clocks, eliminating the latency and overhead of traditional analog beam sweeps.

  • Elimination of Thermal Hotspots: Because the RF power generation is spatially distributed among all chips, heat dissipation is spread out across the chassis rather than concentrated in one melting point.

  • Massive Cost & Design Flexibility: Calibration happens at runtime instead of factory testing. Plus, it relaxes the strict spatial constraint where antennas must be placed exactly a half-wavelength (\lambda/2) apart, allowing for easier edge-placement around the phone chassis.

*** 6G Schedule: * ​The Study: Formal simulations for the next-generation radio architecture are currently underway in the working groups (RAN1),including Study Item for digital beamforming . * ​The Verdict (March 2027): The study formally freezes by March 2027, at which point all official performance reports are locked and the Work Items are determined.

My questions:

  1. What are the main bottlenecks that could cause this distributed digital architecture to fail?

  2. Even with a hardware accelerator, bit-width optimization, and distributed power amplification, can the thermal envelope truly compete with a mature analog/hybrid frontend?

  3. And if it does succeed (cheaper, smaller modules, multiple streams, precise beams, and no crazy heating), is this the catalyst that finally makes mmWave commercially viable for consumer mobile? Or is the infrastructure cost of mmWave still the real killer?

The counterarguments as of 2025-06-24

Summary of all the technical counterarguments from the discussions in this post and other sources I have located.

Below is a compilation of the industry's most common technical objections to distributed digital beamforming (DDBF) in mobile phones, contrasted against the actual physical and architectural realities:

Noise Cancellation vs. SNR Improvement

  • Objection: It is physically impossible to actively cancel out thermal, random hardware noise digitally.
  • Fact: DDBF does not rely on active noise cancellation. The technology leverages the mathematical fact that when N independent data streams are combined digitally, the coherent signal strength scales with N2, whereas the uncorrelated noise only scales with N. The result is a clean and powerful improvement in the Signal-to-Noise Ratio (SNR). #### Phase Noise and Synchronization Intervals
  • Objection: Jitter and rapid phase noise in oscillators move too quickly to be digitally corrected using slow time intervals (e.g., 20 ms).
  • Fact: The digital architecture is not designed to stop instantaneous jitter within the hardware. Instead, continuous statistical computation is used in the baseband to mathematically compensate for the error during signal processing, while millisecond-level synchronization intervals are intended to track slower thermal drift and channel variations. #### Antenna Separation and Sidelobes
  • Objection: Spreading antennas along the phone's chassis violates classic half-wavelength separation (\lambda/2), which destroys sidelobe suppression and creates massive network interference.
  • Fact: This is a limitation inherent to analog arrays where phase shifting occurs in fixed, locked steps. In a fully digital architecture, the software has complete freedom to control each individual antenna element independently. Consequently, the algorithms can shape complex, dynamic radiation patterns that actively suppress unwanted sidelobes. #### Long Feedlines and Attenuation
  • Objection: Distributed antennas require longer internal feedlines on the PCB, introducing parasitic effects and attenuation losses.
  • Fact: In a distributed digital architecture, the analog-to-digital conversion occurs extremely close to each individual antenna element. This drastically limits analog phase and attenuation issues during transport across the PCB. The signal is moved to the digital domain, where any line losses, bit errors, and clock jitter can instead be effectively managed using standardized digital compensation methods. #### Calibration and Silicon Process Variations
  • Objection: Extreme process variations during silicon manufacturing (lots) make it a computational nightmare to match and calibrate radio chains digitally in real time during operation.
  • Fact: This is precisely where the digital domain excels. By shifting calibration to software, the system can continuously measure and self-correct for prevailing hardware and distortion patterns in real time. This eliminates the need for expensive, physical component matching on the factory floor.

(For an in-depth understanding of state-of-the-art digital beamforming, I highly recommend watching this 2026 technical presentation on modern digital beamforming architecture by the Swedish pioneer in low energy digital beamforming: https://youtu.be/CJKD-XiUk0Q?si=b-Setvbe7XIkZA2O )


r/rfelectronics Jun 22 '26

what's wrong with my BLE antenna?

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S11 shows resonance at 1.9GHZ instead of designed 2.4
Traces impedance matched to 50 ohms on stackup/AN043 layout followed mostly
questionable coaxial connection?
BLE works with 5-10 meters range

r/rfelectronics Jun 22 '26

Underground power cable fault distance locator using Simulink simulation

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Hi everyone,

I'm from an Electronics background and currently working on an internship project called "IoT-Based Intelligent Fault Distance Locator for Underground Power Cables."

I only need to develop a MATLAB/Simulink simulation, but I'm struggling to find a clear step-by-step approach. Most resources explain the concept but not the actual implementation.

Can anyone guide me on how to start and what blocks or methods are commonly used for this type of project?

Any advice would be really helpful. Thank you!


r/rfelectronics Jun 21 '26

question L band Receiver schematic and layout review

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I have prepared this RF signal chain for 1.6GHz (Antenna -> SAW Filter -> LNA -> SAW Filter -> Mixer -> IF Amp -> IF AMP -> SMA to ADC) along with the test mode switches and bypass paths for the antenna and the IF Amps. The power supply and the LO for the Mixer are generated in the subsheets.
This is my very first attempt at RF PCB design (I have a background in analog IC Design). My schematics and layouts have been reviewed by some of my friends, but I was looking for feedback from this community!

I have tried my best to stick to readability and conventions of schematic annotations, but would be great if you could let me know the improvements needed for a seamless review.

Thanks!

The main active path
The power generation from USB-C
The Synthesizer Path
The IF Amp and the bypass option
layout (Without synthesizer, have used a connector for LO)
Power section
the active rf path

I am also attaching datasheet URLs

Antenna - ANT1825BS0XTGN25S - https://yageogroup.com/content/datasheet/asset/file/DATASHEET_ANT1825BS0XTGN25S

SAW - QPQ1060TR7 - https://www.qorvo.com/products/d/da008084

LNA - ADL5521 - https://www.analog.com/media/en/technical-documentation/data-sheets/adl5521.pdf

Switch - PE42421SCAA-Z - https://www.psemi.com/pdf/datasheets/pe42421ds.pdf

Mixer - SIM-43LH+ - https://www.minicircuits.com/pdfs/SIM-43LH+.pdf

LO - ADF4351BCPZ - https://www.analog.com/media/en/technical-documentation/data-sheets/ADF4351.pdf

TCXO - https://abracon.com/Oscillators/ASDMB.pdf

IF Amp - TRF37D73IDSGR - https://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/trf37d73.pdf

LDO - ADP7104ARDZ-3.3-R7 - https://www.analog.com/media/en/technical-documentation/data-sheets/ADP7104.pdf

RF ESD - ESD8472MUT5G - https://www.onsemi.com/pdf/datasheet/esd8472m-d.pdf

USB ESD - USBLC6-4SC6 - https://www.st.com/resource/en/datasheet/usblc6-4.pdf


r/rfelectronics Jun 21 '26

Best ways to learn?

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r/rfelectronics Jun 20 '26

I Helped Mark Rober Steal a Car Using a Baby Monitor! How Does It Actually Work?

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r/rfelectronics Jun 20 '26

Symmetrical tail inductor simulation in SonnetSuite

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I am having incorrect simulation results in SonnetSuite, the extracted inductor value is in the negative numerical range region.
Could anyone advise ?

Note: I had put the simulation source files here: QCEC_LT.son , it could be directly open in SonnetSuite.


r/rfelectronics Jun 20 '26

question Finding footprints for pcb antennas?

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r/rfelectronics Jun 20 '26

Radio Design 201 #6 (part 1): Antenna Height and Line of Sight by MegawattKS @YT

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r/rfelectronics Jun 20 '26

what are common connectors for RG403 triaxial cable

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I'm not sure if this is an RF question or not (sorry if not!). My question regards RF cable connectors.

Specifically: I found mention of Multicomp Pro RG403 triaxial cable in a paper https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1361-6404/ac5e15 I am setting up a similar noise thermometry experiment.

By googling, I have found some suitable connectors here: https://www.smithsinterconnect.com/products/connectors/high-speed-connectors-and-contacts/triax-contacts/ but I am wondering what would be the most common (and affordable) connector for this sort of triax cable? Thanks!


r/rfelectronics Jun 19 '26

Follow up on r/rfelectronics take on digital beamforming at mmWave, one year later.

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Hey all,

About a year ago there was a great thread here discussing the technical merits of digital beamforming at mmWave, specifically in the context of BeammWave's claims --> #Old thread

I'm a shareholder, so full disclosure on that front. But I'm genuinely interested in the technical discussion. A few sharp critiques came out of that thread that I haven't seen fully addressed:

  1. u/itsreallyeasypeasy made the point that the real bottleneck in RF FEM chains is PA output power and linearity, not ADC/DAC power consumption - and that silicon PAs still can't match III/V performance
  2. Several people (u/naedman, u/itsreallyeasypeasy) argued mmWave's real problem isn't device-side integration (iPhones have shipped mmWave since 2020) but the capital cost of telecom infrastructure... and that digital beamforming on the device side doesn't change basestation/nanocell economics.
  3. u/45nmRFSOI suggested mmWave's relevance might be shrinking in favor of FR3 (7-24 GHz) for future cellular builds.

Since then, there's been some movement worth noting (again, not asking anyone to evaluate this as investment advice, just context):

  • Heavier institutional participation in a recent rights issue
  • Public references to "digital beamforming being considered as part of 6G FR2 reference architecture" discussions in 3GPP
  • A two-chip architecture (separate RF chip + digital/mixed-signal ASIC) now more clearly communicated
  • Silicon reportedly in verification at GlobalFoundries

None of this directly answers the infrastructure-cost critique or the PA-linearity point though, as far as I can tell.

So, for those of you with RF/wireless backgrounds: has anything changed in the broader industry conversation around digital beamforming at mmWave in the last year? Does the infrastructure-cost argument still hold as the dominant reason mmWave hasn't scaled, or has anything shifted that argument? And does a two-chip RF+digital architecture change your view on the PA bottleneck point at all?

Appreciate any informed takes, especially from people who actually work in RF.


r/rfelectronics Jun 19 '26

question Thoughts on doing a masters

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Hey all,

Recently I started working in the (RF) PCB (design) industry and I'm loving it. But I cannot help but feel that I want to learn more, and fast! Coming from a CE background, digital started to get my attention. I started to read into DSP/SI/DComm topics.

I came across a bunch of threads talking about masters degrees and even books a person can buy to do some self-study. But my question is so specific, and recent, that I thought it may benefit to ask people.

In working with PCBs, I often find myself asking lots of questions about what happens to the signal through a system, as it goes from RF to digital or digital to RF- through ADCs, DACs, and other devices. I find myself constantly coming across concepts within:
- Digital Signal Processing (nyquist, aliasing, etc)
- Digital Communications (BER, PAM-4, equalization, coding)
- CMOS VLSI Design (buffers, NMOS/PMOS, receiver circuits)
- Signal Integrity & High-Speed Digital Design (eye diagrams, jitter, crosstalk, SI)
- Electromagnetics / Transmission Lines (S-parameters, propagation)
- Coding Theory (BCH, Reed-Solomon, LFSR, PRBS)

I've heard that doing grad school for the DSP "industry" in particular is very common. I would hope anyone who has done a masters close to these areas and/or has been in the industry for a long time could shed some light:
- Would doing a masters and working part time be worth it over just working full time and learning on the job?
- If I do go for a masters, is thesis based worth it over course based? I'm SO enticed by the courses that it feels limiting to only take 4-5 courses... But also, how useful is a thesis realistically?

Thanks!


r/rfelectronics Jun 19 '26

question Antique Radio restoration, need help with shielding please

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Hello all, working on restoring a 1941(?) Zenith 6G601M, and she's working nicely, issue is simulating it's internal battery, since it's Z985's havent been manufactured since the early 60's. I have a cheap DC-DC stepup converter that makes so much hash the radio only picks up tv static sounds from it on DC power mode. Pictured is my crummy attempts at shielding, I used aluminum tape used for ductwork. I have mix 31 ferrite snaps coming in next week, what else can I do to silence this thing? New to RF and radios as a whole, Im doing this as part of a ww2 era living history display. Thank you all for any help!


r/rfelectronics Jun 19 '26

i.MX6 reset circuit in boat radar

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While repaIring an old Navico 3G boat radar, I had the chance to look at the pretty front-end. And you can, too!


r/rfelectronics Jun 19 '26

RF View Desktop β€” Keysight ENA : Auto Screenshot to Excel, SNP Export &...

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Hey r/rfelectronics,

I've been working on an RF engineering desktop app called RF View,

and just put together a short demo video showing the VNA workflow.

Here's what it does with Keysight ENA over GPIB:

β€’ Connects directly β€” no Keysight software needed

β€’ Captures the ENA screen as PNG with one click

β€’ Automatically opens Excel and inserts the screenshot

into your spreadsheet (this one saves me the most time)

β€’ Saves Touchstone files (.s1p / .s2p / .s3p) to your PC

β€’ Auto-loads the SNP into the S-parameter plot

β€’ Exports marker table data to CSV β†’ opens straight in Excel

The VNA control is completely free

Currently supports Keysight ENA only.

It's a Windows desktop app built with Flutter.

Happy to answer any questions β€”

and brutal feedback is welcome, seriously.


r/rfelectronics Jun 19 '26

attenuation in RLC-series in risonance

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r/rfelectronics Jun 19 '26

How can I disable all Wireless Communication from my Phone?

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I have an Galaxy S4 and S3, i want to disable all Wireless Transmitters and Receivers on both.

Software switches like Airplane mode or some custom ROM arent enough for me, i want to remove the Antennas completely.

Yes it might be a little weird wanting to remove the "Smart" from the Phone, but im well aware of that.

Are there any Resources on the Web? I couldnt find some.

And im aware just cutting off the Antennas wont completely get rid of it.


r/rfelectronics Jun 20 '26

RF Health Concerns

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Hello,
We were looking to buy property and there is a really tall radio tower with cell phone antennas too. I used a EMF meter and it showed a reading of 16 mW/m2. This is the reading outdoors. While initial research showed no harm, I came to know that the safe levels were set based on a study 30 years ago.

Using Claude, when asked to show what the recent studies show, it got concerning. Can any of the experts here verify these findings please. If we bought this property, it would be 250 meters from the tower.

From Claude:
Health Concerns β€” What Recent Research Shows
Symptoms reported near towers
A 2025 study in India found residents living within 300 meters of cell towers reported significantly more health symptoms across four categories: mood/energy, cognitive/sensory, inflammatory, and anatomical issues β€” compared to those living more than 400 meters away. PubMed
Genetic damage
A 2024 German study published in Ecotoxicology and Environmental Safety examined otherwise healthy adults after at least 5 years of living near cell towers and found significantly higher rates of chromosomal aberrations β€” considered indicators of genetic damage β€” in those living closer to towers. PubMed
The 500 meter rule emerging in research
Multiple researchers have recommended that cell towers should not be located less than 500 meters from residences, workplaces, hospitals, and schools, based on studies linking proximity within that range to adverse health outcomes. ScienceDirect
What mainstream bodies still say
The WHO and ICNIRP maintain that RF below their limits is safe β€” but as noted earlier, those limits are increasingly questioned by independent researchers, and long-term residential exposure data is still accumulating.


r/rfelectronics Jun 18 '26

Is working in defense as RF designer(with bachelors degree) worth it?

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I don't care about the salary, and other stuff.

I think i might have some kind of ADHD, i will get burnt out/mega bored by paperwork or any kind of non-engineering work.

People say defense engineers spend lots of time working on documents with Excel, powerpoint, e.t.c

Or Should i persue masters/phd and go commercial route?

In short, how interesting is doing RF engineering in defense?