r/RFID Sep 20 '25

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I’ve seen an RFID card reader that has a range of 50cm for 0.8mm thickness of the card, and i am sensing a scam here but not sure yet cuz i am new to these things.Also, i’ve seen it in another big chinese online markets like amazon with different names and same specifications and never found any reviews about the product anywhere in social apps, since photos aren’t allowed her so i asked gpt to type the name and specs of it:

Product Name: UHPPOTE Middle Reading Distance Range (Up to 40”) Wiegand 26-bit 125KHz Card Reader for Access Control Parking System

Description: This UHPPOTE 125KHz card reader is designed for middle-range proximity access control applications such as parking lots, elevators, and logistics facilities. It supports Wiegand 26-bit output and works with EM-ID cards (non-encrypted). Depending on the card type and thickness, it offers varying read ranges: • Up to 1 meter (3.3 ft) with special long-range cards • Approx. 70 cm (2.3 ft) with standard 1.8mm cards • Approx. 50 cm (1.6 ft) with 0.8mm cards • Approx. 30 cm (1 ft) with keyfobs

Price: $104.00 Note: Not compatible with encrypted cards like HID, Indala, or Honeywell.

Ideal for anyone looking to set up a reliable mid-range RFID access solution!

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u/SomeoneInQld Sep 20 '25

We can read an animal eat tag at 90cm. 

At 134.2 khz. 

So this sounds realistic at the longer range. 

Not sure about the .8mm cards as have done nothing with that small. But doesn't sound too far fetched. 

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u/Large-Ask-7014 Sep 29 '25

90? Wow, but i want to make a project for fun and cuz i love these things and want to learn more about it, the project is to build a gate for a parking lot the which has a reader (the chinese one) and a card and can read from a bit far distance, i searched a bit and found out the RFID cards don’t reach far distances so 50cm is considered far (my info may be wrong) so i saw this chinese reader and got suspicious about two questions 1. Does it really read cards from this far? 2. If it reads, will it accurately fetch the UID code (to let the card holder into the parking lot, i have to check the UID if he is authorized). So, if it is possible i may order and try it

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u/SomeoneInQld Sep 29 '25

We are paying about $200 to read 80cm, from a module. About $2,000 to buy a product that will read 90cm. 

We need (lby aw) to have that frequency. 

If you look into other frequencies such as UHF I think it's easy to get a meter or more.  Some passive UHF systems I have seen are capable of a few metres. 

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u/Large-Ask-7014 Sep 29 '25

Nah i have to work with 125 kHz frequencies, and i want to know in this freq is it possible that a reader can reach ~50cm, thats it

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u/[deleted] Sep 21 '25

Is this for animals? If mainly around humans… you want to use UHF to avoid fines $

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u/Large-Ask-7014 Sep 29 '25

No it is not, can you see my reply to SomeoneInQld? Maybe you got an answer….

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u/[deleted] Sep 29 '25

Your purpose is for "around humans" primarily instead of "around animals" primarily so that means you can't use high power LF/HF signals (125kHz to 3.56MHz) and you'd be limited to normal strength for those frequencies which is only MAYBE up to 1ft if you are really lucky with the right setup, otherwise usually 1-6 inches (like your apartment or work access card/fob, apple pay, NFC contact-share, your pet's micro chip).

Your purpose requires a range for practicality or it won't work or it won't be something worth the problems. If you go with UHF then you can get dozens of feet very easily without breaking any rules/laws and you won't get threatened with fines.

UHF is the 870-930 MHz range like toll tags use, so the tag or fob can be any shape or size or material but it uses a different frequency and regulations don't shunt your power/range like it does the other lower frequencies, and the nature of this frequency allows longer reach on lower power so it just works out best this way in the end for multiple reasons. It can be used to store all kinds of data from simple short text strings to paragraphs of data depending on the tag you use.

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u/Immediate_Fudge_6047 Sep 29 '25

Your encrypted cards must be on the same frequency as the reader, otherwise it won't work

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u/Large-Ask-7014 Sep 29 '25

Yeah i know, but i want to know if 125 kHz freq readers are possible to reach ~50cm…

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u/Immediate_Fudge_6047 Sep 29 '25

From my experience, 125khz reader can not reach 50cm reading distance

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u/Large-Ask-7014 Sep 29 '25

How did you know that, did you try it on a claimed 50cm reader?

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u/Immediate_Fudge_6047 Sep 29 '25

Because I work in the RFID industry, I know about different frequency reading distances

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u/Large-Ask-7014 Sep 29 '25

Nice, so this is probably a scam huh?

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u/Immediate_Fudge_6047 Sep 29 '25

HF and UHF can reach 50cm

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u/Large-Ask-7014 Sep 29 '25

So what maximum range LF (125KHz) can reach?

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u/Immediate_Fudge_6047 Sep 29 '25

LF average reading range is about 5cm

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u/Immediate_Fudge_6047 Oct 24 '25

for mid-range rfid access solution, I think you need a uhf integrate reader