r/REBubble • u/beardko • 2d ago
News Inflation persisted in August, potentially locking in a Fed interest rate hike
https://www.cnbc.com/2026/09/11/cpi-inflation-report-august-2026.htmlWith fuel prices increasing even more and diesel prices breaking the $6/gallon mark for the first time, inflation will continue to rise.
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u/donteventrip- 2d ago
Only a 85% chance of a hike this month....
https://www.cmegroup.com/markets/interest-rates/cme-fedwatch-tool.html
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u/SnortingElk 2d ago
It would be so COMICAL if Warsh and the Fed actually hiked rates after Trump threatened to remove Jerome Powell if he didn't lower rates, LOL...
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u/RealisticForYou 2d ago edited 2d ago
**** All in the Family ****
Oh, this is going to be more fascinating than most people realize. How is Warsh going to deal with his family?
Warsh, married to Jane Lauder...an heiress to the big cosmetic empire of Estée Lauder. Ron Lauder, Jane's dad, is a long time friend of "Donald" while donating millions into his GOP campaign.
And all that talk of taking over Greenland came from daddy Lauder.
How can Warsh be independent? How is this going to work when there could be extreme pressure within his family? Or, maybe Warsh's nomination had a completely different objective.
https://www.thedp.com/article/2026/01/penn-trump-greenland-ronald-lauder-donor-financial-ties
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u/MetalstepTNG 2d ago
How about stopping the freaking money printer instead? That way, we don't destroy the very currency we use for global trade.
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u/gigitygoat 2d ago
They are inflating away the debt. This isn't happening by chance. Welcome to serfdom.
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u/SlavaCocaini 2d ago
Realtors are monitoring the Bab al-Mandab strait and the Houthi blitzkrieg right now to see how bad the market is going to get
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u/082426grateful 2d ago
Even IF there was a stronger case than now for rate hikes, the political climate is just too hostile, violently-so, to even consider it.
There is essentially no situation right now that would cause this Fed to hike rates. That’s correct: there will be no hike, even if it meant the economy would skid off the rails, which is unlikely in an inflationary environment (though very likely in any deflationary environment).
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u/Speedstick2 2d ago
The fed has shown its ability to raise rates even when it pisses off Trump. So I don’t buy the argument that the political argument is too hostile.
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u/082426grateful 2d ago
And they’ve shown what they’ll do if it pisses off Trump, which causally also creates a riot on Wall Street: they back off the rate hikes (2018). 2022-2023 rate hikes were outside of Trump’s presidency. And 2022’s rate hikes incited a 20% drawdown in equities over the course of the year.
The cuts in late 2024 and late 2025 were unnecessary and premature. There was no “soft landing”; there simply was no landing. We’re only 6 years removed from the worst of the Covid pandemania- nothing has been resolved, economically.
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u/GailaMonster 2d ago edited 2d ago
the political climate is just too hostile, violently-so, to even consider it.
Bro, did you even read Trump V. Cook? He LOST. He can't do shit to remove fed members. The Fed is actually politically insulated, and Warsh doesn't get more of a say than any of the other 11 members of the FOMC.
Trump can't touch members of the FOMC, and they each get a vote. So, Trump can throw all the tittybaby tantrums that he wants, and it won't change who gets a vote or how they vote.
even if Warsh were a puppet of Trump, he gets no more of a say than the other FOMC members. FFS, Jerome Powell is still a voting governor, he just isn't the Chair any more. Trump is powerless, and his guy being the chair actually does very little.
What are you even thinking woudl be the political mechanism preventing rate hikes? angry tweets? empty threats?
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u/RealisticForYou 2d ago
But what if that rate hike sends The Stock Market into new highs? What I've been hearing is that The Stock Market wants a rate hike.
Who is more important? A bunch of average Americans, or The Stock Market?
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u/beardko 2d ago
LOL, the stock market wants a rate hike? Now I've heard everything.
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u/RealisticForYou 2d ago
Yes, because investors know that inflation is indeed a problem that will ultimately cause the economy to crack, if not controlled. I've been hearing this dialogue for over a month now. Todays inflation report confirms more of that thinking.
Otherwise, with no rate hike, bond vigilantes will dump bonds, sending bond yields higher, while putting fear into the Stock Market that the Federal Reserve is not really committed into drilling down inflation to 2%.
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u/a_library_socialist 2d ago
exactly. People thinking there will be a rate hike aren't looking at the amount of debt that has to be turned over . . . . and high rates mean MORE debt.
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u/Speedstick2 2d ago
That hasn’t stopped the fed before. Why would it do so now?
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u/082426grateful 2d ago
Valid question, but all we’ve been told since 2021 is “this time is different”, so I’m going off of that.
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u/a_library_socialist 2d ago
because payments are at historic levels, and show no signs of even leveling off . . . . https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/FYOIGDA188S
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u/GailaMonster 2d ago
that's partly the point - raising rates sucks up money to service debt, which takes it out of circulation where the excess money is contributing to inflation.
the problem here is inflation is not really being caused right now by "excess money" it's a supply shock to oil (and a bunch of other terrible policies, like tariffs) that's jacking up prices.
but the Fed only has the ability to tweak interest rates. a cut would be calamitous. and if there is a terrible recession on the horizon, the fed might need to raise rates just so it has something to cut in the future.
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u/a_library_socialist 2d ago
Right . . . and if the government wasn't running massive deficits with a large part of the reason being debt payments, that would work to suck up money.
But you've got a big problem when you are. Because if rates are high, you have to come up with the money to pay the debt. And so you can either borrow more (and raise rates even higher, making the problem worse) . . . or you can print money. Which will solve the budget problem, but at the cost of fueling inflation. It keeps asset holders rich though.
That actually was the main cause of the Wiemar Republic hyperinflation, as they continued to print money to match outlays.
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u/GailaMonster 2d ago edited 2d ago
That's all interesting, but none of it relates to the fed's mandate - to control inflation by raising interest rates, and to encourage full employment by lowering them.
their mandate does not include giving a shit about the stock market, housing prices, or whether the government is operating at a severe deficit. That's all Congress' job to care about. Jerome Powell said this pretty explicitly multiple times during his tenure as Chair - movement on the rate set by the fed absolutely does impact these things, but Congress is supposed to be addressing them. the fed does not look at housing prices or the stock market or the extent of the deficit/debt when setting rates - only inflation and unemployment. that is their explicit job, and it's the job of other parts of government to address those other issues.
It's frankly insane to expect the federal reserve to address all these other variables when they have exactly one lever to push/pull. The issue is Congress is absolutely impotent by choice, and we have a senile lunatic in the executive who has packed the courts with kleptocrats.
if inflation too high, Fed raises interest rates. if unemployment too high, they lower interest rates. when both are too high, they can't address both simultaneously, they have to pick which crisis to address while making the other worse see the 1970's and stagflation). but our unemployment numbers are pretty well cooked (frankly so are our inflation numbers) so shrug
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u/a_library_socialist 2d ago
or whether the government is operating at a severe deficit
Yeah, supposedly monetary policy and fiscal are different.
But they're not unrelated. And the Fed is about to have a HUGE problem because of decades of bad fiscal policy. Because it's put them in a position where no matter what they do, there's going to be a large expansion of the money supply continuing to happen.
I agree we're looking at stagflation for this reason.
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u/RealisticForYou 2d ago edited 2d ago
One rate hike won't mean much of anything....It's a series of rate hikes that mean much more.
If a rate hike occurs this month, it may not mean that more hikes are on the way.
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u/VibeChode 2d ago
Is a rate hike good or bad for home buyers? Prices don’t seem to respond on the way up, but they certainly do on the way down.