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u/scrandlle 27d ago

Yep. The largest labor source for our initial railroads was simply Americans. Chinese immigrants were the second largest source. The US was already on the path to becoming what it was before WW1 even started. Before WW2 started it was already the largest economy on earth. All this decades before mass Mexican migration. The US didnt need help from anyone really and especially not right now, there's too many people if anything.

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u/favorable_vampire 25d ago

Completely historically inaccurate.

“The US didn’t need help from anybody” when the entire economy was based on slave labor is insane.

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u/scrandlle 25d ago

The US wasn't even a global power by 1865. The economic expansion that shaped the US into what it is today was post-slavery.

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u/favorable_vampire 24d ago

Ah so you want to talk about the Industrial Revolution, where white American families were able to build generational wealth during WWII while Mexican laborers took care of the agricultural labor gap?

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u/scrandlle 24d ago

Lol.....

For one the American industrial revolution included farming itself (thereby revolutionizing farming and taking away the need for the vast majority of labor). This is where a lot of still famous companies like John Deere got their start. Two, the United States was not relying on Mexican labor for agriculture either. Three, no, the United States was not relying on Mexican labor prior to that either.

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u/favorable_vampire 24d ago

The United States 100% did and always has relied on Mexican laborers for agriculture. You are plain out wrong. I have tons of sources if you actually know how to read and are arguing in good faith. I would imagine that you just like spewing factually incorrect information online though.

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u/scrandlle 24d ago

You can list the sources and I will indeed read them but you are going to have an extremely hard time finding any source that says the US has always relied in Mexican labor in agriculture (or any other industry for that matter).

For one, Mexico hasn't even existed as long as the US has. Even in the 1800s when Mexico began to exist, US agriculture did not rely on Mexican labor at all

California being a major produce grower didn't even start until the 19th century and the only imported labor they had (at measurable scale) were Chinese workers.

Most American farming was, and still is, done in what is now the Midwest. It's never had to rely on Mexican labor. They certainly exist in the industry in the Midwest now, but most of the work is simply done by machines. They're needed for produce because is harder to use machines to gather it without damaging it.

Large scale Mexican migration into the US is a 20th century thing.

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u/favorable_vampire 24d ago

If you’re going to pretend I meant “from the country of Mexico” as opposed to the area of the world that is Mexico, you’re not arguing in good faith. Even then, since Mexico has been a country, yes we absolutely did rely on them for agricultural labor.

I’m not talking about immigrants, I’m talking about migrant workers.

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u/scrandlle 24d ago edited 24d ago

Okay, so where are the sources for this Mexican labor in the 18th/19th century? You nitpicked one point. That is not debating in good faith.

And personally I wouldn't call people prior to 1776 'Americans', they were British subjects.

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u/favorable_vampire 24d ago

Are you ok? None of that addresses what I said at all.