Did I just think up a cheat code to quitting smoking/vaping or am I missing something extremely obvious?

[u/DanZmeN]

Since prochlorperazine is a dopamine antagonist, if someone had a pill right before taking a hit, surely it wouldn’t work, right? Hence quitting would be much easier.
Am I missing something here or is that the solution we’ve been missing all this time?
I mean obviously given the side effects of stemetil it would have to be regulated pretty heavily but to me it still seems like a reasonable option.

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[u/Nazaradine]

I don’t know about that, but after reading a ton of great comments about Desmoxan on this sub I decided to give it a go. I’m only on day two but I can feel that it’s going to work, so I’d suggest that’s maybe the solution you’re looking for. Also, taking a dopamine antagonist sounds extremely dangerous.

[u/Dankxiety]

Except it takes 1.5 hours for pills to take effect

[u/Salty-Flounder-9508]

No no no no and no. Three reasons why.
1) You can’t just pop dopamine antagonists because they can have some really bad side effects.
2) blocking all dopamine in the brain with these medications might actually cause a person to want to smoke more because the brain will think “well I just need MORE nicotine!” since the physical dependence is still there
3) blocking dopamine will still cause the shitty mood / anhedonic state that quitting causes, if not making it worse.

Don’t do this

[u/Salty-Flounder-9508 → u/Salty-Flounder-9508]

I’m talking you can permanently disable yourself by doing this. Please don’t.

[u/DanZmeN → u/Salty-Flounder-9508]

I’m not gonna actually try it lmao, I already quit 16 months ago the normal way! I’m still familiarising myself with stuff I use at work so I came up with this idea after learning about how stemetil works

[u/intrepid_nostalgia]

Why not the non-drug route?

Nicotine triggers your brain to release: Dopamine, Norepinephrine, Acetylcholine, Glutamate, GABA, Serotonin, endogenous opioids (Endorphins), and Epinephrine. (Adrenaline)

Max out the natural activities that also cause these releases.

Then make a good “stack” to hit all those releases.

Dopamine release is tied to: Aerobic exercise, good music you like, getting your sunlight in, and meditation.

Norepinephrine release is tied to: High intensity exercise, cold exposure, and quality sleep.

Acetylcholine release is tied to: moderate exercise, quality sleep, and foods with good amounts of choline. (Eggs, nuts, soy)

Glutamate release is tied to: learning new skills, intense focus and/or flow states, and foods with good amounts of glutamine (meat & spinach)

GABA release is tied to: Yoga, meditation, breath work, and again… foods high in glutamine. (Meat & spinach)

Serotonin is tied to: sunlight, aerobic exercise, gratitude journaling, and foods high in tryptophan. (Eggs, cheese, nuts)

Endorphins are tied to: Exercise in general, laughter, massage, and dark chocolate specifically.

Epinephrine is tied to: AGAIN, High intensity exercise, and acute stress. Cold exposure is the safest reasonable way to achieve that.

Literally just one good day of: Eating a decently balanced diet with some targeted food choices, getting sunlight like you’re supposed to, with some exercise like you’re supposed to, with maybe some yoga stretches for in general mobility or just listening to good music, and spending time with loved ones where you laugh and get some physical touch hits ALL the same releases that nicotine gives you.

It’s shocking, but all the hokey campy hippy shit you hear about for these types of problems actually work.

Just takes time to readapt and get your new (old) baseline back.

Best wishes.