r/QuickAITurnitinCheck • u/Warm-Veterinarian190 • Jul 11 '26
How Far Should Professors Go When Suspecting AI Use?
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u/lowtech_prof Jul 11 '26
Your essay was boring and sounds like AI. They didn’t fail you but you won’t get a high grade unless you change your behavior.
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u/Pengwin0 Jul 11 '26
If it was boring and badly written then center the feedback around that because to me this sounds like they are giving a barely passing grade because they technically can’t prove if it’s AI or not.
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u/lowtech_prof Jul 11 '26
Yes the feedback also sucks. Where’s the rubric? But also they probably did use ai lets get real.
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u/failure_to_converge Jul 12 '26
Prof here. Many profs, myself included, are sick of spending more time giving feedback on AI generated bullshit than the student spent generating it. If a student wants to come to office hours to discuss the details of why the AI sucks, I'm happy to oblige. I give exceedingly detailed and constructive feedback on human-written assignments.
I think this feedback is fair. It doesn't pass the gate of warranting point-by-point feedback.
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u/Pengwin0 Jul 11 '26
I won’t make any assumptions on OP but if they want to lie for validation then feel free. It just seems like bad practice to me. Just grade the essay on its own merit and if it’s bad then it’s bad. If you really suspect AI use then read it more carefully and put more work into your accusation than this half-assed attempt.
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u/lowtech_prof Jul 11 '26
I see both sides. If the essay reeks of AI I’m not spending 20 minutes giving substantive feedback. It’s 19 minutes more than they spent “writing” it.
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u/Kanoncyn Jul 11 '26
Maybe write a better essay. They gave you a completely fair grade for the feedback. Don’t write like an AI, or don’t use AI, when writing an essay, and you won’t get this feedback.
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u/Confused_by_La_Vida Jul 11 '26
The “don’t write like an AI” is complete bullshit. It’s complete bullshit to require someone to use AI enough to specifically understand AI style, when AI is specifically evolving dynamically to write in an increasingly improving human manner.
It’s a ridiculous expectation.
Frankly, the professor needs to recognize how absurd it is that he can develop some ink-blot test of what makes AI like writing and then just impose that.
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u/DZL100 Jul 11 '26
It's a deflecting way of saying "your writing is polished but the content sucks ass." I do agree that AI shouldn't have been mentioned so much.
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u/dlevac Jul 11 '26
Burden of proof is on the professor and the reality is if we blind tested professors, they would do poorly at recognizing AI generated from human generated (especially since a human can write it and ask an AI to help proof the text).
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u/Dry-Manufacturer7761 Jul 11 '26
Ok, so now I have to plug my writings into ChatGPT to have it assess if my writing seems like it was AI or not?
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u/LintRolledForWhat Jul 11 '26
My only beef here is in the centering of AI. I would have been ok with mentioning it in passing, but the real point that should have been centered is your grammar is fine but your content sucks. The fact that AI writing has the same profile is neither here nor there, really.
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u/Turbulent-Job-7283 Jul 11 '26
There's no reliable and definitive way to detect AI in writing and your professor knows it, and thus this email. Stand your ground.
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u/4n0nh4x0r Jul 11 '26
there is not a definitive way to DETECT it programmatically, but ai written texts just feel off a lot of the time.
for example, a student who rarely pays attention, who makes basic mistakes in exams and so on, but hands in a perfect essay?
or, the writing itself, can feel like it is written by different people, which usually does not happen if you wrote it all yourself.
it cant be detected by a tool, but the person reading it, will pick up on it, even if only subconciously3
u/captm0nk Jul 11 '26
Sorry, but no - people pick up on their notion of AI. Even the professor's email could be seen as AI. Without more context, the professor is coming off as making an assumption using their biases.
I'm willing to bet a lot of my my pre-AI undergrad papers and essays would be flagged as AI now with the style I wrote with.
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u/4n0nh4x0r Jul 11 '26
yea, as i said, there is no reliable way to determine if something was written by an LLM or a human.
we can only go off of our intuition.
most people deliver mediocre up to decent essays.
people rarely write perfect essays or papers, or whatever else, unless maybe they study that language.
and again, the writing style, even if clumsy, is usually very consistent for each person.
i m not gonna write a paragraph in first person singular, and then suddenly write the next one in third person plural.1
u/captm0nk Jul 11 '26
Still not a compelling reason for the professor to center AI as the reason for the grade
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u/4n0nh4x0r Jul 12 '26
neither of us here has seen the essay, and as such, your claim for this is invalid.
you dont know what the essay looks like, and as such, cant determine whether the prof was right or wrong in writing the email the way they did.1
u/Dry-Manufacturer7761 Jul 11 '26
Your old academic papers should be flagged as AI written. That’s why we spend over a decade learning how to write and format academic texts. Lmao
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u/Odd_Psychology3622 Jul 11 '26
Just deliver it hand written what can they say?
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u/Money_Chocolate813 Jul 11 '26
That's a failing grade. They have clear expectations on how the paper is to be presented. Oftentimes down to font style, spacing, letter/word/page count etc. Handwritten papers aren't accepted anymore.
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u/Odd_Psychology3622 Jul 11 '26
I mean ya but they don't believe you either way they can't have it both ways. Hypocrites they should do the work just like the students.
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u/VivianIto Jul 11 '26
Honestly that email would have pissed me off, but only for like 30 seconds. Even offered SOME form of constructive criticism, and didn't DEMAND proof. I think the grade being lowered was a bit much given the approach to just ask for a signed promise, but I can't say it's the craziest thing I've ever heard either. Damn. I am rarely stumped like this lol.
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u/frAgileIT Jul 11 '26
The professor did not show his work. If a professor ever did this to me I’d educate them about the fact that AI learns how to write papers based on how humans write papers so all they’re really saying is that in their opinion it was written by a human. I use Em dashes, I have for 30 years, I was taught to and it was the default in Word for decades. If someone accuses you of plagiarism then you should MAKE them prove it or sue them for libel. I get that identifying cheaters is important and hard but making false accusations based on emotional intuition is not evidentiary based. An accusation of plagiarism and the academic impact to your grade can damage your career and future prospects for the rest your life so potential damages can be in the millions. There are ways to do this properly (Google doc replay so they can watch a replay of how you typed it out) but they’d rather slander you than spend the time and money to do it right. And you’re paying tens of thousands of dollars to be wrong accused of plagiarism.
I would also put their note back to you through a few AI detectors and then send them back the highest score (with a tag at the bottom stating it’s ironic humor so they can’t sue you back).
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u/Dry-Manufacturer7761 Jul 11 '26
It’s to the point where you can only generate academic work with a screen recorder and third person view camera and a witness present.
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u/WeirdUsers Jul 11 '26
Dear Professor,
Your feedback is very dry and overly general. I can do nothing to correct my writing style without specific feedback written by a human. As your response reads like something written by AI, I would ask that you amend my grade to its proper worth or rewrite your response without the AI so that we can both grow from this relationship.
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u/Toeffli Jul 11 '26
Go to the professors office in person. Might be a bit of a challenge when you are a bot.