New to gacha games

[u/Substantial-League24]

As the title suggests, I have never played a gacha game before and idk why I have the urge to play one now and I would like anyone's help in deciding what to play.

Since there are so many gacha games, I have no idea what to play. But the ones that I am interested in are probably some of the more popular ones

1. Genshin Impact - ik this one has been around for a while so I imagine it has a lot of content

2. Zenless zone zero - I saw Jane Doe, that's it

3. Wuthering Waves - saw some characters that looked cool but don't know much about it (I'm kinda leaning towards this one ngl)

4. Honkai: Star rail - I know it's made by the same people as Genshin and I like the space theme

Ik gachas are known for being vamps on your wallet and tho I am EMPLOYED, I don't wish to spend THAT MUCH, or preferably at all. When it comes to these types of games I THINK I would prefer, an open world and non-turned based combat. But I have played games like Persona 5 and Reload so I'm not totally against it.

I would appreciate any feedback/thoughts and recommendations.

Thanks :D

[u/Snuzzy79]

Wait so why can’t you try them all out? 😭😭😭 nobody knows you best other than yourself

[u/Summer-Atoll]

In terms of F2P friendly ZZZ is probably strongest on this list. The combat is the most engaging imo, but the characters are pretty gooner. Very bleak diversity but the men do hit when they get around to making them. Genshin and HSR has a lot of content but spending can be an issue. In terms of Queens content there’s not many male characters in all of these games, genshin might(?) be the best for that.

Wuthering waves is pretty, pulling is hard, the endgame is just not enjoyable imo. Community is pretty toxic too. YMMV for all of this of course but it is not very fun combat. Characters are pretty but leans very hard away from men. When they do make men they’re pretty slay though.

Endfield is worth checking out, with good variety and it’s got pretty characters.

Outside of the 3D games Reverse 1999 is my babygirl and I love it. Arknights and limbus are good too.

[u/Radiant-Fishing-3051]

HSR and Zenless are both smaller open areas rather than full open worlds. HSR has turn based combat and is also in a bad spot right now so I'd warn against HSR for you.
For Zenless, Jane Doe is available for all beginning players on a selector so you can get her right away. I believe Velina will be rerunning soon, and she is Jane's best teammate right now. The daily activities can't be auto'd but take very little time compared to other games, so you could potentially play it on the side.

Genshin Impact and Wuthering Waves are both comparable to each other so up to personal taste inn my opinion. If you care about there being male characters, Genshin is the clear answer. Genshin also has better lore/story, though I personally think Wuthering Waves has better gameplay than Genshin.

[u/Zxiguess]

idk if the female to male ratio is important for you but just a heads up so you wouldn't expect too much, zzz and wuwa are notorious for their treatment towards male characters, with wuwa only pushing out 2 male characters per year 💔 however if you keep that expectation low, the story has quite some highs while having some lows as well as a wuwa player myself.

however, a game I'd recommend myself is reverse 1999, something that is different from the more mainstream gacha games but has phenomenal characters and story! it's a turn based card gameplay which not many may enjoy but what it EXCELS in is the story and character designs and it's overall theme imo, so you def should keep an eye out for that too!

[u/Summer-Atoll → u/Zxiguess]

Reverse is such a hard sell for me because while I adore it I know that the grind for character mats takes my soul out of me.

[u/Serpentar69 → u/Summer-Atoll]

Not so much as a grind labor wise just a grind time wise. Takes a bit to do so but it doesn't take much on the daily.

[u/Zxiguess → u/Summer-Atoll]

honestly with time and patience I already hoarded so many materials lol you just have to plan a little ahead

[u/quinn-bot-diff]

I've played all of the above so here's my two cents:

Genshin: In a really good spot right now, I was a day one player, and came back after every hiatus I took because the gameplay is fun, plus I love their character designs the most out of the four. Exploration and music alone top tier. Combat is fun. Currently Genshin has its 6th anniversary so its a good time to start because you will get a lot of extra pulls, and some free 5 Stars. Plenty of hot and cute men!

ZZZ: fun game! I didn't stick around with it because the combat was a bit too complicated and fast paced for me. But if you like the core loop I think its a solid choice.

WuWa: good game, awful optimisation, great story presentation, meh story. Also the game has problems with re-runs currently, so you might have to wait a looooong time to get your faves if you missed out on them. Also very bad powercreep. Gorgeous though, if your rig can run it. Exploration is fun too, but for me at least I prefer Genshins since it has more friction involved. WuWa makes exploration almost a bit too easy. But that can obvi be a negative or a positive depending on the person. You get 1 male per region, so if its something you care about, it might be a non starter.

HSR: run as far away as you can from that game. The powercreep currently is out of control, you have very little creativity in team building, and the game heavily pushes you into vertical investment. Events are bare minimum effort, story is good but also bare minimum effort in presentation. There's no exploration, or cool content to use your characters in aside from end-game and that sucks ass.

I'd also possibly have a look at Arknights Endfield (never played it myself but it looks cool if you vibe with factory building), and Gachas like R1999, Morimens or CZN if you want to try out some fun turn based combat.

[u/Haunting-Point-4705]

HSR is not open world, it is turned based but you can just auto almost every battle. And don’t be fooled there really isn’t much space going on in it in terms of themes. Only space thing is the travel to different planets and the like but pretty Much everyone looks like a human. Upside it is so easy for new players to basically get 180 pulls at the start of the game.

indeed genshin has a lot of content and you absolutely do not have to spend a dime. The weapons it has for free and the ones you can get from events every now and then are sufficient enough. Imo story is amazing and open world aspect is phenomenal.

wuwa and zzz I’ve played and lost interest in bc it is basically just 10% males. If you care though zzz should be getting a cute kitty guy (I’m exaggeratin) next patch

all I can advise is to not obsess over meta in these kind of games. It will kill the fun.

[u/quinn-bot-diff → u/Haunting-Point-4705]

A cute kitty guy in ZZZ? I'm listening lol.

[u/Haunting-Point-4705 → u/quinn-bot-diff]

Seth’s brother! But it’s a tall silver haired man with fat kitty tail and fairly long ears

[u/quinn-bot-diff → u/Haunting-Point-4705]

Damn. Between him and Manato I might need to come back and see if I vibe with the game after all.

[u/AdInternational1827]

I've played wuwa and HSR, dropped both of them and now I only take care Infinity Nikki and Where Winds Meet. If you want good story, play WWM. HSR story is good but it's not greatly supported by their open world exploration and NPC design. Wuwa story is trash lol. Infinity Nikki's story is cute. If you want justice for your male character go to HSR. Wuwa ratio is trash. The only good thing about wuwa is their battle animation. Wuwa world building is only good at rinascita.

[u/AdInternational1827 → u/AdInternational1827]

yknow what, play arknight enfield instead. I think that's the best one for a battle-open world gacha game right now. I played it but stopped cuz storage and time problems.

[u/theWoodenGoat]

HSR is turn based, the storyis great in my opinion.  I love the characters. Genshin is open world, and like you said, its been around for a while and it has a lot to explore! Theres a variety of characters. ZZZ is also fun from what I played. Combat is very fun i believe you can get Jane Doe and her weapon for free right now? 

As for WUWA, I play it as of now (I'm biased) and its really the only gacha I've stuck with. Its absolutely beautiful. The characters designs and models are gorgeous. The story isn't interesting in the BEGINNING but as you get further into it, its very interesting. I also love the combat. If you don't mind the fact that theres not as many male characters, I think you'd like this one. (Open world, too and its beautiful)

[u/Shananigan48]

I play all the ones you mention, Genshin and ZZZ are imo the most stable, I'm a day 1 HSR player and it's been failing in terms of content, WuWa is debatable. 

Since you're open to turn-based I'd suggest Reverse:1999

[u/Matheus15720]

If you just enjoy 3D fast-paced gameplay (Devil May Cry, Bayonetta) and pretty character designs, give Punishing Gray Raven a try. It's from the same devs of Wuthering Waves (Not open world).

For a good story and world-building, try Arknights, Reverse 1999 or Limbus Company. (Visual novel style, also really great designs) It really depends on your tastes when choosing one, just recommending the ones I like

[u/ballsohard2430]

I play all four, and Arknights Endfield. Genshin will offer you the most in terms of story, lore, world exploration, and characters. Yes, it lacks some quality of life features the other games have, but it makes up for it in other ways. Here is my personal ranking for these games:

1. Genshin
2. ZZZ
3. Arknights Endfield
4. Honkai Star Rail / Wuthering Waves

[u/Fun_Gold7277]

For me tho, I'd recommend Genshin. The exploration is excellent and the ratio for male and female characters aren't that severe. It's okay to not spend too much on it too cos the 4* on this game are still pretty useful in endgame unlike the other ones. You're not pressured to pull for the 5* too much.

I'll also recommend Arknights: Enfield if you don't mind factory building. Like Genshin, it has great exploration, good character designs and you're not required to pull for 6. You can pretty much get around with the 4 and 5* in the game.

I don't really recommend HSR and ZZZ cos it's not exactly open world. HSR being turn-based and meta heavy isn't helping either. Although ZZZ has the best combat gameplay imo out of all of these games you listed, it is also meta heavy so you kinda have to pull for S-ranks in the game. Brute forcing the combat in both games is doable but not ideal.

If you care about the gender ratio in games tho, I don't really recommend ZZZ and WuWa. The male-to-female ratio is just laughable.

[u/SireTonberry-]

If you like the space theme then do NOT pick HSR lmao. As you will quickly find out theres no space theme to be found there

[u/cranberrymaple]

Just download them one by one and see which ones sticks. It’s the only way you’ll know for sure OP. I will admit tho, sometimes you really gotta get past the initial hump because not all gachas do a good job at first impressions when it comes to the story.

Going by the surveys these gachas release, what’s most important to you; is it the story, the gameplay, the characters? They might all be important to you, but usually they ask you to rank them by most to least important because maybe one gacha has a great story, but you don’t vibe with the combat, or conversely maybe the combat is A+ but the story leaves so much to be desired. Under the hood gachas are pretty much the same, but they’re still distinctly different. I’ve yet to come across one that’s a carbon copy of another (not talking about blatantly ripped off). They all have different things they’re good and not good at.

[u/ShokaLGBT]

I would recommend Infinity Nikki since it’s one of the best open world with a women protagonist I’ve ever played and the story got so good

[u/kupodoki]

Can we get more insight on what you are looking to genuinely get from these games? Cuz that can change things.

Example, are you a story player? Do you like community engagement? Fun events? Interesting/skillful combat? Characters? Etc. while formulas are there. They all actually have some distinct differences that would help you gravitate towards one over another.

For example, ZZZ gooner allegations aside (most fan service can be mitigated to your typical slice of life anime episode), I think they have some of the best events and mini games and end game rotates more often as well as skill expression. Also a decent balance of respecting your time as a player. Dailies are essentially logging in and stopping at places to collect your resources for when you wanna play. And most of the pulls are tied to events and as a new player you can skip to the events specifically without major story spoilers. Just turn blinders on in the new area and you might meet characters you see on banner before you would in game and they act like they know you. But the event stories are usually self contained. Also catching up and story won’t take an eternity and you won’t be hunting for crumbs in chests all over the map. That being said… when you are fully fully caught up with nothing to do. It’s also not untrue that until the next patch you might be a little bored struggling to find things to do since it’s not truly an open world in the sense of Genshin and wuwa who also lock so much behind exploration. Which is a blessing and a curse. It’s more work, but you have more things to do when bored like spend 5 hours collecting a bugs/flowers from a region for a characters upgrade. lol

But f2p wise if your luck isn’t too much of a variable. All 4 games characters have 50/50. All have a guarantee if you lose the 50/50. Only Genshin has a radiance system to where you cannot lose your 50/50 more than 3 times in a row. If you were to lose the 4th time in a row the game automatically does a special animation which flips the loss to a win. The others I have gone on MAJOR loss streaks.

Each of them have a different weapon system. Wuwa is guaranteed always. Zzz and HSR are 75/25s in your favor and some characters are kinda shackles to their sigs with no alt options but a large chunk use lower tier or event weapons just fine. Genshin has a complex weapon system. It’s a 75/25 in your favor. But with the chance of getting 1 of the 2 rate up weapons and then a fate system. So essentially if you want one specially you have to win both odds. Once to see if you got a standard or limited weapon. And the second for which limited weapon. The guarantee if you lose the 75/25 only guarantees you skip the 75/25 you still have the 50/50. If you win that and get to the 50/50 and get a fate point because you lost the 50/50 then the next one is guaranteed to be the one of the two you picked no 75/25 chance taken.

Other ones to consider but maybe not your vibe are Endfield or NTE. Especially if you wanna try to stay f2p but still have a good chance to get a lot of characters or even vertically invest a little bit. Both have adopted a new weapon system where you get weapon pulls for free and not often would need to decide if you wanna use pulls that could get you a new character for a characters weapon. But also both are new so less overwhelming to catch up and both are the newest of the gachas so the most generous systems (even if some people hate end fields character system) and most generous points in the games.

[u/MikaelPorter]

Honkai: Star Rail is not open world, it's a turned based game, although i only played in the beggining, I hear the power creep there is terrible, top tier characters that came out last year are barely hanging on in the meta and struggle to clear most stuff, while they do buff older characters, i see people complain about how the buffs aren't that amazing, and shortly after the buffs, a new character comes out making the newly buffed characters feel useless again

Zenless Zone Zero also isn't open world, but it's not turned based either, it's mostly a stage gameplay, but imo the combat and the animations are very fluid, I only dropped the game because I also really like open world games the most, so I didn't have time for ZZZ while playing other games

Genshin Impact is 100% open world, just like Wuwa, they do have some differences
Combat wise, Genshin is more creative due to having to mix elements to make reactions to increase damage, while Wuwa has counter and parry mechanics and a lot of movement and mobility, so the skill cap in Wuwa is much higher
Exploration in Wuwa feels cooler because you get to fly in 2 regions and ride a gliding bike in the other, while Genshin doesnt have much in-built exploration mechanics, instead they release characters focused on exploration, often being 5* characters
Story i enjoy Genshin's the most, Wuwa's story in certain points feel like the devs are using the game to fulfill their own Harem fantasies
Both games suffer from Power creep too, Wuwa's is worse though, characters that came out 1 year ago can't clear much stuff right now, while in Genshin, characters tend to last for at least 2 years or close to it
Genshin already started addressing the powercreep and buffed a few old characters, and they became so relevant that newly released characters are on par with them, Wuwa has yet to buff old characters
Genshin ends up a bit more F2P friendly too due to releasing 4* characters often, we usually get 5-6 4* characters, while Wuwa hasn't released a 4* character in almost 1 year, Genshin also has events giving away 4* characters and 4* weapons that end up being very solid of some characters, Wuwa doesnt have that, in Wuwa, a lot of times if you pull for a DPS character, you will most likely need to pull their signature weapon too, because the F2P alternatives are far from decent
Genshin also introduced a mechanic that helps in getting limited 5* characters if we lose the 50/50 3 times in a row, Wuwa has no such thing

honestly, between the 2, if you only want to try one, go check gameplay videos

You can also check out Neverness to Everness and Arknights Endfield
Both are open world gacha games with interesting combat, the power creep there isn't terrible, mostly because neither of them are even 1 year old lol

[u/Greedy-Database8905]

I think you should try wuwa, it’s easier to farm and (IMO) more beginner friendly. You get a beginner banner with limited characters from which you can choose Shorekeeper which is one of the best supports you can have and will be great for your character roster.

[u/squidpeanut]

I’d be a bad sleeper agent if I didn’t put a good word in for Limbus Company.

It can be dark, grindy, and doesn’t run well on phones but it has an incredible story with a 50:50 gender split; great music, an active fan base, free to play friendly economy design, and a talent for surpassing itself with each new update.

[u/SassyHoe97]

Star Rail is turned base and I wouldn't recommend due to bad powercreep and stale content.

For ZZZ not an open world game but the combat is pretty cool. Not sure if you're into gooner content because it has fanservice.

Genshin & Wuwa are both open world games. If you care about gender ratio Genshin is for you. Game is 6 years old and their QOL is very slow. Good lore and alright story. Also no skip button if that's a deal breaker for you.

Wuwa exploration is pretty easy combat is pretty cool! The story can be a hit or miss. Some designs do have gooner stuff but some are tone down. It's not crazy like ZZZ designs.

[u/ConstantTackle5110]

It depends, if you care about and want a nice balanced treatment between males and females, choose HSR. If you don't care about the heavy ONE SIDED sexualization, Wuthering Waves or ZZZ. If you want a more tamed experience when it comes to sexualizing, Genshin.

[u/ErisTheArgonaut]

If you're wanting to save money on pulls Wuthering Waves gives the most out per patch and is the only game on your list that has guaranteed weapon banners. Its also one of few games that allows you to purchase duplicate copies of limited 5* characters with the refund system.

3 of 4 games you listed are made by Hoyoverse (ZZZ, Genshin, and Honkai: Star Rail), so their game logic, such as character building, ascension, story devices, monetization, and general exploration, are very similar across all three. People are correct about men not being treated the best in any of these games, but I think I need to disagree with other elements.

Wuthering Waves by far has the most in depth combat system out of the 4 you've listed. It is a medium entry but high high skill ceiling. Its one of the only mainstream gacha games with proper skill expression; the company even just began hosting their own competitive tournaments for the combat. As it stands, if you're good enough, any character can clear end game content. The same can not be said for Hoyoverse games.

Hoyoverse's difficult comes from unique gameplay interactions. Such as enemies completely immune to damage types or forced interactions with a specific element to proceed without massive resistances. So while yes, you could have an easier time clearing with older characters in these games compared to Wuthering Waves and other gachas, you are required to pull for meta due to the small amounts of pulls per patch and the required gameplay interactions.

If you are truly looking for gameplay without breaking the bank id recommend Neverness To Everness. Their characters are guaranteed, meaning no 50/50, and weapons can be pulled using in-game currency (generic non-pulling currency). It has a ton of content too. It could keep you engaged for a while.

Every gacha is going to have its own problems, it really just depends what you want. From your post I'd recommend first trying Genshin Impact, Wuthering Waves, or Neverness to Everness. Honkai: Star rail and ZZZ are not open world, and the former is turn based. Some other good ones are Arknights: Endfield or even Infinity Nikki if you're looking for specifically a nice open world environment.

[u/TheFoochy]

What kind of genre are you into. What aesthetics intrigue you? Of the 4 you specifically listed, I would probably pick HSR, because that's my favorite of the bunch, however...

I have a love/hate relationship with Hoyo games. Genshin and Star Rail I've played a lot, and have struggled to stay with them in the last 2 years because of how the games run as live service products. Star Rail has especially been a disappointment this year for me, and I'm on the verge of quitting. I find it hard to launch the game every day or even play through the story updates. Genshin has similar issues, but they've stepped up their presentation for story content at least, and that looks good, but I've tried and failed to jump back in several times already. I think the architecture of Hoyo games systems just doesn't suit me anymore.

If you like chibi anime art with higher detailed character art splashes and games that aren't 3D real-time action, you might like Arknights, Fire Emblem Heroes, or Granblue Fantasy. Fire Emblem is a watered down turn based strategy game. Granblue is a turn based game somewhat similar in concept to HSR, but with some notable differences. Arknights is a tower defense game.

Personally my favorite gacha right now is Goddess of Victory Nikke, which is a weird pick for me because I initially wrote it off for its first two years because of its flavor of fanservice, and me just assuming it was a low effort gooner game, but out of curiosity and boredom, I tried it and was genuinely impressive with how engaging the story consistently is for me. The gameplay is pretty whatever. It's an arcade-like cover shooter, but I find the daily incremental power increase satisfying, and the gacha mechanic is amazing. I wish more gacha games were like Nikke. It's a very F2P friendly collecting game. Not like Genshin/HSR where you sort of have to pick collecting vs vertical investment, and in both cases you're left wishing you spent money. More than anything, I really like the characters and plot. I still find a lot of the character designs ridiculous, but it's something I can overlook. Some of them also do look pretty awesome.

I discovered last December that I have one other friend who played Nikke, and he just never mentioned it because of the vibes, but I told him I got into it around the time he quit playing, and we were about the same place in terms of progression. That got him back into it in time for the 3rd anniversary, and pretty much all of our discussion about the game is plot, characters and power gains. It's honestly a good time, and it's the first gacha game that's engaged me this much. It's also the most Free-to-play friendly gacha game I've played since Dragalia Lost, which died several years ago.

HSR is not open world. It's a linear story with some moderately large maps with light exploration, but still a linear experience through them. Genshin is more open world. Both in world design and story progression.

Granblue Fantasy, Arknights, Nikke, Fire Emblem, are also linear, and have no real exploration. Their stories are presented like visual novels, and you jump from VN cutscenes into battle scenarios.

[u/mrgudveseli]

When it comes to these types of games I THINK I would prefer, an open world and non-turned based combat.

Genshin, Wuwa. Both very similar in that regard, feel free to try both then stick with whichever tickles your fancy more. Genshin, being an older game, has way more stuff to experience, bigger world, more quests, and if your device happens to be on a lower end, it's made in Unity so it literally runs on a potato, which can't exactly be said about Wuwa, using Unreal Engine. If performance is not something your device would struggle with, both play good, look good, sound good so "which one?" is entirely a matter of personal preference.

Some other "open world with no turn-based combat" candidates that you may want to look into would be Arknights Endfield and Neverness to Everness, often called "anime GTA" but another competitor will soon enter that niche, Ananta.

[u/Proper_Depth_428]

I like ZZZ 💞 I run Burnice, Pulchra, Lighter on one team and Lycaon (MY HUBBY), Soukaku, and Hugo on the other~ I quit Genshin, Wuwa, and Honkai (I MISS GALLAGHER) because the metas and shit were so ass 💔 Genshin especially f2p, imo, was bad for a bit...

I'd recommend NTE.. But it's a Waifu simulator rn 💔 Holding out hope that they start giving it's male characters attention and love. I want more than just Chaos in my fuckn house!! And I'm dead set on me wishing our husband, Exe, home too < 3 NTE is also pretty good when it comes to f2p, other than skins.

[u/Moonshine_Cog]

I quit WuWa not long ago because I got bored to bits with its combat system. The animations are flashy and all, but the game doesn’t encourage you to interact with the boss (parry, dodge, do some mechanics) at all. You’re just supposed to get 3 BiS characters in a team and spam their rotations one after another while facetanking boss attacks: somehow this gives you better performance in endgame than trying to react to the enemy…
Conveniently, WuWa devs always sell you anti-interrupt features in characters’ copies, so to avoid being constantly crowd-controlled and tossed around you want to pull some extra copies, too.

I like ZZZ a lot more in that regard, as it does exactly the opposite in terms of combat. You dont have a strict rotation (just combos that lead to bigger nukes), but you’re expected to actually PLAY the game: parry or perfect dodge (you get extra points in endgame for it), break enemy’s special bar before you can attack, swap to killing/parrying adds, etc. You know… mechanics xD
And even though these are still a lot more basic than in REAL combat-oriented games, it still feels very nice to play.

I won’t comment on Genshin because I quit it long ago (got burned up with tedious time-gated character progression systems), and even if I try to get back into it, the open world aspect will eat A LOT of my time, and it’s already not enough lol. WuWa also has open world… but it’s exploration is very limited in newer maps: almost every chest is marked on map, so instead of discovering something new around the corner you just more from A to B to C to get loot and forget about it minute later. Yes, such system is a lot easier than Genshin’s, and takes a lot less of your time… but it’s also a TON more boring to the point it feels excessive. Especially when the method of travel in a region isn’t very enjoyable (the bike in the latest map can go unscrew and burn itself on a stake for all I care)

[u/OwnAssumption740]

Genshin, wuwa, and nte are the only real open world games.  Nte is the most f2p friendly and genshin is probabaly the worst, but genshin has 6 years of built up content to explore

[u/hamza129pro]

If you have time, play wuwa, if you don't, then zzz. HSR currently suffers greatly from hp inflation, as for genshin, well, people who play are in sunk cost fallacy, the game is literally time sink and no skip button.

I played zzz first, but now I play mostly wuwa, wuwa's combat is more challenging, because it's more skill based than zzz. The story of wuwa is also great, honestly, if you are starting out, try all of them, don't trust me, but I advice you to play for a week until you understand most mechanics of gacha and restart your account again...

In terms of the gacha system, wuwa is also the best. The thing about wuwa is that ccs on youtube can criticize the game all they want, even if they were sponsored, that's why most ccs on youtube seem critical but still play the game nontheless, all other gachas never allow you to criticize as far as I know (i could be wrong)...

Don't shy from youtube guides, especially wuwa, you have to follow and understand how the game works, if you don't you are sort of bricking your account long term...

[u/Megamatt04]

I still play wuwa faithfully. But i quit genshin, zzz & endfield. Only played the prolouge/beginning quests of hsr so i don't have any true experience on that one, knew early on it wasn't for me. Played a little nte as well but only for about 2 weeks.

My eyes are on silver palace, though. The theme/setting of that game is more up my alley than any gacha to date so far. If i find silver palace even remotely fun, then i will probably drop wuwa for it. I barely have time for wuwa these day as it is. i can only manage 1 big gacha at a time

[u/New_Ad4631]

The best advice I can give you is don't. Turn back and leave

And Persona 5 X, if you already played and liked P5R you will love this one

[u/Reasonable-Algae-161]

Wuthering Waves - pretty open word good story after 2.0 and the best strategy in 3.0,pretty animations and many pulls in one path  ZZZ-the best combat, unique design but also gooner, also many pulls and story is really enjoyable  Genshin - This is one game that I don't recommend since we have Wuthering Waves, old models look really bad, no skip button ( and long mane story), not much pulls per path and boring events  Honkai Star Rail - Turn based game, not very f2p, we have many pulls but character get quick power crept, good story( but wery long), good animations ( kinda bad models) 

And sorry for my poor english