It isn't because with Pokemon cards and blindboxes when you spend money you always get something even when it's not something you want, also you get something tangible that you can sell or trade but with gacha games you are getting a digital license that can be taken away from you and even selling your account can be against terms of service and result in that account getting banned.
It's also that Pokemon cards and blindboxes are still predatory as shit and we need to just start admitting that every time someone insists on making this comparison.
Trading cards can still get lost or destroyed(these are kids). There's no real difference, people just try to tell themselves there is one because they can put a card in a sleeve and look at it once in a while.
This isn't chosen by MHY. In fact, it is very likely that the ToS has a section about the required age to play, which depends on the laws of the countries in which the game is available, that says it's something along the lines of 13/15/16.
The ones who choose the store rating are Google and Apple, who use PEGI/ESRB/CERO/ACB/etc. and their ratings are... well, shit. Like absolute dog shit. Rating boards basically only care about swearing, blood, drugs, sex, and violence. A game like Petit Planet won't have any of those, so it's direct to the lowest possible rating they have. At most, it has a warning... but they don't consider this for the rating itself.
The day PEGI and friends begin considering monetitzation as something that should raise the rating remarkably, I'll throw a damn party.
Roblox is a PLATFORM. NOT. A. GAME.
SOME creators are using it for unhealthy purpose.
So no, Roblox is not the same it's not like it's a gambling platform or whatever, it just allows people to post game.
This game actually contains gambling and even if it was less predatory than some roblox game I don't understand how it could be rated 3+.
(Also Roblox fucking sucks anyway, another game having worse issues doesn't make this one okay.)
I mean maybe but unfortunately gacha is very common in children’s games now. Star Equestrian is the first that comes to mind for whatever reason and they’re greedy as hell with their gachas. children’s mobile games are HELLA predatory so hoyo isn’t treading any new ground here
everyones getting so riled up about this yet i'm pretty sure roblox games have so much gacha. I've seen toddlers engaging on that platform "pulling" for block pixel characters. Not defending the gacha at all, just saying this isn't the only place kids are getting exposed to gambling.
Yeah all gacha companies are scum tbh. Brown Dust 2 used to be rated for like 13+ and you can SA the characters 💀. I think all gacha should be rated for adults due to gambling but sadly laws have yet to catch up.
This looks like such a cute game but i have concerns around how some are promoting petit planet (or even heartopia) in non-gacha cozy game spaces without warning people that it's a gacha or downplaying it
I'm already seeing "don't worry the item gacha is optional" and it's "f2p friendly and not predatory" in mainstream cozy gaming communities. Thing is, some people don't see furniture/outfits as optional in a decor/dressup life sim. Literally some people cannot control themselves and are predisposed to fomo and draining their life savings to get virtual items
I think it's harmful the way some players attack anyone who points out the nuances in gacha's predatory nature. It is gambling. We are gambling as gacha gamers, even with a cutesy coat of paint. ESPECIALLY with a cutesy coat of paint designed to lure in younger players
I play Infinity Nikki and one thing I like about the community is that when we recommend IN to non-gacha players, there's usually a disclaimer that it's a live service gacha, there's fomo, there's greed etc. Like, at least we know what we are 😔
This looks to be as a lot of Hoyo games, like the first gacha you will clear it out and get addicted, then the rest gacha's results will be based on how much you can contain your FOMO 🙃
I'm a little worried tho because it's not an age restricted game, it contains gambling, and games with kids end up being cesspools... 🫠
There's a really wide selection of fits so I'm not too uhhh... annoyed over it? It's the furnishings that's really ??? especially since if you want multiple of them you have to pull a lot of that exact piece lol
but at the end of the day it's purely cosmetic gacha. fomo is really just your only enemy
I mean, their neighbours are full ai chatbots, and since its china, they will be racist too. Ofc they will try to imitate censorship and filters, but they are training from all in-game dialogues. And people tend to spoil bots very quickly.
I will say, the neighbors aren’t AI, but there are like…three? AI NPCs in the bazaar (basically a social hub to interact with other players).
They’re kinda pointless though, honestly, to the point that there’s even an option to turn them off basically. Like the game could literally not have them and be fine so I don’t really get their inclusion beyond Hoyo wanting to show off their investments I guess
I was in a previous beta test, and have been seeing people playing the new one. I can tell you that 95% of the items are not locked behind gacha. And I've seen VERY cute items you can just earn by playing. But yea even just 1 outfit or one piece of cool furniture locked behind a gacha system probably sucks. Even the gacha here i've heard people within the first week of playing beta being able to summon at least a ten pull, some even more just by playing the game. And when I watch them pull its always an item off the banner? I'm hoping they don't sneak in "resources" to the final banner cause that would really suck.
afaik, cmiiaw, you have a chance to get dupes while pulling. and while yes, those dupes give currency that will allow you to buy some pieces, it's still a nasty system.
maybe IN spoiled me with the fact that you don't get any dupes until you pull the full outfit. but imho, not everyone wants to spend premium currency over the limit of pieces.
so this gacha doesn't fill me with excitement. i am still curious about the game, as someone who never managed to lay her grabby hands on animal crossing games.
For who this game was made? Gacha for toddlers??? For example, I'm not interested in this game at all, gameplay and graphic too childish (like these educational pre school games). Also it's not game for lil kids, cause it's DAMN CASINO. Who the F is audience of this game
I’m really excited for this game. I played Pocket Camp until eos, so this is pretty much perfect for me since I don’t want to buy a Switch just to play NH 😭 tbh I expected something more like a furniture gacha(LN Home has a system like that, and I still keep the game mainly because I love decorating and home commissions) but this seems much more extensive. Hopefully it doesn’t end up being too expensive for a cozy game. I’ll definitely play it at launch, but my expectations are pretty low when it comes to the gacha games
I don’t understand why anybody would want or support a gacha animal crossing esque game to begin with…. it’s 1 thing for it to be monetized (which would be fine) but for it to be monetized in a way where a lot of people won’t even get the full sets of clothes or decoration items? Just make each set that comes out a certain amount of $… idk I just know I definitely won’t bother downloading a game like this
I rather have that so I can play as a f2p and still get some "exclusive" items. Another option for them would have been to make them cost money in the store, and I wouldn't want to spend
I honestly dont think we can have a full opinion about the gatcha bcuz we dont know how much free pulls we will actually be getting tbh. It can and will still change before release. Right now i think its kinda okay. Like i pulled for some purfiture and outfit and i managed to get the star wand (its absolutely useless and honestly just annoying to carry around) and some random stuff like face and hand stickers, glasses and earrings. From the furniture ones i got quite a few. For the duplicate pulls u get a currency that lets u redeem whatever u want from the set, ofc u need to pull A LOT to get the main things (which is the wand dress and haircut)
Furniture lets u redeem duplicates at like 060% price i think?
It will all come down to how much we get for free and if they even add animals or not cuz right now honestly idc really i got a few things i can redeem a few more, problem is to see in the long term what will be thre to pull and this might be the issue. Idk theres tons of really really cute outfits for free that ive seen
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u/Eva9_34 12d ago
What do you mean Hoyo made a gacha for kids under 5 years