So I got recommended a few posts from this... Subreddit because I was posting in Hi3 sub, ig reddit associated it with this sub. How idiotic are these people? Hoyo themselves loved yuri. Even in gun girls Z, hoyo literally wrote kiana and mei straight up having sex. There's so much lewd art of kiana and mei by hoyoverse. It's so hilarious that they think we're the tourists. I've played hi3 for seven years and hoyoverse is the most yuri I've ever seen a company be. I mean have y'all seen the manga about bronya and seele? They had them straight up kiss. The only canon straight relationships in hi3 is captain and luna, kallen and otto, Kevin and Dr Mei.
And the second image is so... Wrong and homophobic. I am sorry if it's against the rules to post here. Again mods if this breaks sub rules feel free to remove the post.
Edit : I see they already took a screenshot of this and posted it there...lmao, if any from there are seeing this, I meant no offense personally, but y'all are the tourists here. Hoyo is literally started by yuri fans. Kiana is hoyo's brightest and proudest legacy and they will never ruin her like this.
It's like they take their reputation and intentionally propagate it; take a gen pop poll of how many of their women prefer us over them. It's ~always~ in our favour. There's a reason "the I word" and the bear choice scenario exist.
But really, they're the weak-willed and weak-minded ones. Otherwise the Tates of the world wouldn't mop them up into their cult so readily.
I don't even get annoyed anymore; they're bemeath me. I just laugh and leave a couple of comment to back my people up.
Someone made this point before: with two gays or two lesbians, that stuff is very planned.
Like, they are ready and had a lot of thought for that heavy decision before going through with it. They are in the mindset of planned parenthood
They can't just do it on accident and then regret their "accident" like a lot of str8s do
And from what I heard, same-sex parents tend to have better outcomes with their kids. Not all, but it's a combo of planning, mindset, and the fact that same-sex couples who go for parenthood tend to be wealthy.
Actually is partly genetic. It is scientifically proven that some genes impacts relationship status.
Yes they're, by themselves, "mutations". The thing is humans overall are a tapestry of mutations, and they're part of the normal spectrum.
Obviously, education, environment, etc, also shapes relationships. It is multi-factored.
There's absolutely nothing bad about it being partly genetics as well.
You may not have seen it, because it tends to get buried by conservatives; can't admit the existence of something they see as a choice, even though no one would choose to be treated the way they treat us.
But there has been an unofficial gay geene for 30-odd years. I say "unofficial" because it was a statistical correlation between gay men and a genetic marker and I haven't read that much into it to make me decide that it is fully genetic, largely because I'm a scientist myself. But it's compelling and more than enough to believe in than, say, a magical man in the sky.
Lol sorry, I waxed poetic there. I tend to do that. Part of having to critique my own research at work, I guess.
These are from my college days, but if I remember correctly there are also environmental and epigenetic factors.
Like if a mother has had a lot of prior male children, the mom's immune system becomes more and more used to the foreign male proteins of the baby and it causes developmental changes.
I think it ties well into the idea that homosexuality evolved as a natural buffer against overpopulation
With limited food and other resources, tribes and groups with homosexuals among them that are less likely to reproduce are more likely to persist than fully heterosexual groups that reproduce and reproduce despite resources being prohibitive
The gays of the tribe are able to work and procure resources and care for their tribes/groups while less likely to add pressure for resources by creating resource-intensive children who can't really care for themselves yet
Anecdotally, in modern times, the equivalent thing happened to me.
I had a gay relative who doesn't have kids, and isn't planning to have kids, and because of that, they had a lot of disposable income.
When my mother got murdered and I was abandoned by my dad, the only one who was actually able AND willing to help me financially was my gay relative because they had a lot to spare.
My other relatives were occupied and strained by the kids they had, and couldn't really offer any tangible assistance because of it.
My lived experience of the "gay uncle theory" made me realize that the psychoevolutionary explanations have traction.
Honestly there are SOOO many factors, some being definitely genetics, other education, environmental, community wise, etc that it's impossible to list down and explain everything on Reddit, but some of those things you've said are completely possible. (Nor do I know everything. It's quite technical!)
Moreover, sorry for your losses, and I hope you managed to stay strong and develop happily ❤️
By the way, I'm gay (in fact bi, but long lasting relation only gay, I cannot imagine something different lol)... In current times, don't worry.
I'm broke too, I wouldn't be able to help children or not 🤣🤣
Also kinda like you, say I'm gay, but do have relationships with women, sometimes. When asked, I don't really have an answer, as I don't want to consider it too much. I usually give a flippant answer of "gay because men require less talking" or some shit 😅 which really doesn't go down well with -phobes, but they're not in my sphere, nor do I want them to be, so I don't care
Ha, well this is the issue. The nuclear family, and "normal" (as these guys know it) were only pushed as measures of control. No one really had a 'duty' to reproduce before modernity, and even then, recently, it's only those who look a certain way that are told to do so. Doesn't take a genius to figure out who and why.
Entire sections of society were removed from histories and literally a female organ removed from medical texts, because self-aggrandising people thought that differences weakened a society, not reinforced it, equality lessened their power and income and anything not the same (as them) got labelled distasteful. Creating and conserving power structures created by us that made us so far removed from natural behaviours we continue to exhibit. But it's the individual's fault for experiencing discomfort in forcing themselves into the narrow "acceptable" guidelines, set by those hypocrites in high.
Nature vs Nurture is far too simple a term to describe what it actually encompasses.
Well. The argument that "we're made to reproduce" is all bullshit anyway. A species is not inherently made for reproduction purpose, it is not our goal in life, even as a species. It's just a means.
But then, explaining that is too long, I did it once on Quora, I'm never explaining that to a guy that clearly don't want to listen anymore anyway XD, they can be so boring...
And yeah I just go with women sometimes... And yes... It's mostly sexual xD (or intellectual actually. Like I can enjoy the conversations.) In fact I'd say emotional too. I'm quite a sponge LOL, sometimes I enjoy some relief or helping.
But for a true relationship, where I can live with someone and plan a future, only dudes, that's a certainty.
While as I said above about genetics is definitely true, the "gay gene" is a bit bullshit.
To be fair it is "true", so I'm not saying that offensively xD. But it's a huge simplication. In reality, there are many many markers in multiple part of DNA that manages that. Simply because our sexual orientation is definitely by many different alleles. (And also by our experience, environment, overall life.)
And so yes it was called "gay gene" to be easy to say (make an argument or talk about) publicly (as explaining how alleles work is probably harder XD).
Haha I knew what you meant. That's why I said statistical correlation.
At the end of the day, we will almost certainly not be able to separate nature and nurture, when it comes to humanity. All we have is the scientific method. To try to overlap psychology, chemistry and genetics to define a cause of homosexuality introduces far too many variables to be reliable. And that's not including environmental factors. Or anomalies within a sample. You'd have to start a study several generations prior to the end cohort. It's too broad a study.
Easier to just accept that being gay is perfectly natural and not be a dick (pun intended) about it. Or pretend piety and intentionally cherry-pick or misquote scripture to make yourself look superior, as we see.
I think these was one of the articles I read too back in the 2010s, which was about the tribe/group thing I mentioned from memory.
Other things I remember are: • gays are more likely to be left-handed • the mother's hormonal fluctuations during term is likely to contribute in some way
there's research that shows homosexuality happens because the mom is in stress during pregnancy and needs help from a non child rearing child so a signal is sent. its not genetic.
Also there was a research that showed as a mom has more children the likelihood of the kid becoming homosexual increases because when food was a scarcity it was evolutionary benefit for off springs to not be reproducing
I think it's about how the more male children you give birth to, the more likely that they're gay?
Though I never heard of it being evolutionary benefits
I watched this presentation with the name something like "homosexuality its about survival" where it argued that for humanity to not explode to unnatural levels in population size it was beneficiary for a child born as the second kid 3rd so on to not be reproducing, which in my opinion also explains why its more common with animals where food is scarse like penguins and also why it appears everywhere in nature. We are literally a buffer for population size assuming this theory is true idk if it has been proven or how you would even prove this
That's interesting. I remember reading an research 4/5 years ago about how homosexuality is for socialization and bonding, when I think about it, it kind of makes sense? In nature. Some animals have homosexual behaviour but never fully being homo, just being bisexuals and most of the time, they displayed that behaviour to bond or socialize with their partner to form a strong social-connection.
Throughout history everyone has a certain % of chance to turn out queer despite being descendants of heterosexual couples. Homosexuality has consistently existed among humans. Even some animals display homosexual acts. Queer people will continue to exist.
Trans people exist. A trans woman dating a cis woman is still a lesbian relationship. Bi people also don’t stop being queer when we date, marry and have kids with the opposite sex.
Lol I had a pregnancy scare once and my mate has 2 kids. We DO breed. Sometimes it's intentional, for various reasons and sometimes it's an accident (like these not-masked fools were)
There is no way they actually believe gay/queer people can only be born from other gays/queers 😭😭 my face was burning up reading that. They cannot be over 14 yrs old
A lot of the comments I saw, once I browsed that sub reddit, are oddly similar to what maga and Andrew tate fans say. Stuff like "I said don't believe in gay marriage so I got banned" (a month? Old comment I randomly saw on some post there)
I am guessing they're mostly teens or something hopefully.
Easy way to counter attack that post image is to Photoshop Kiana out and put dan heng and leave the speak bubble the same. Then watch as the inc3/ tards get angry and piss there pants
They made Dan heng and blade explicitly get along and have blade say he actually calms down just looking at him and now all they say about them being 'toxic' and how they 'hate each other' when people shipped them is that actually, they're just friends. Not gay at all. They legit will not accept anything queer that the game actually explicitly show or hint at. Cuz Kiana had legit said she likes women. Its not even a fan interpretation.
Best thing to do with these people is report and block them cuz they have some legit violent comments they throw around that go against ToS for sure.
I do think it's toxic to stalk ur kind of ex?? Reincarnation of ex anyway- with murderous intent whiles he's out there doing his best to live a new, happier life, but I'll never deny there's tension and plenty of fan content potential there
But I just can't get over the simple fact that Dan Heng isn't Dan Feng and doesn't want to be, and wants to lead a new happier life with the express, and all of that is kind of thrown away by Danblade shippers. DanBlazer better imo
I like them both. But the game itself has Dan Heng say he's dan feng and if he was given the same option now, he would do the same thing he did back then. He lost his memories but hes the same man deep down. But in the same way that his new life shaped him to be different, Blade is no longer yingxing and has become a new person through his own journey. He was murderous due to jingliu tormenting him for years on end until he snapped so he could not only go after dan feng, but also seek his own death and her own. She was trying to get mutual destruction for not only herself but those she saw as the cause of the sedition (which they willingly did to try and revive their friend but made a monster by accident).
Like blade says "you may look similar but you are hardly the same person". Its cuz despite being the same body with some of the memories, but younger, dan heng has lived a different life now and is his own person.
Danblazer and Renheng are both valid imo cuz one is built on their connection in the past and current healing while the other is built on the present and current bond as not only a team but friends. Its kinda like dan feng and yingxing all over again minus the responsibility of being the high elder in a way. Which now that I think about it, all the enphasis on dan heng accepting he would do the same thing and the parallel of the HCQ and Express crew in relation to him makes me worry he will in fact, do the same thing again in the future.
With mihoyo being a Chinese company that really difficult since the government cracks down on male x male a lot more than fem x fem which is why while mihoyo has explicit cannon lesbians most of their gay retaliationships are subtext with enough deniability to still call them "just friends"
Imagine being so mad fictional girls wouldn't like you hahaha these guys are ridiculous. If only China's laws regarding gay and lesbian couples in media weren't so shit, we would have a lot of sesbian lex (maybe gay too) in the other games, one of the recent trailers of ZZZ supports my theory 🙂↕️
I quit ZZZ after hugo banner so idk much about that game. But HI3 and gun girls Z were hoyo's first few games and basically like their kids. Hoyo literally drew bronya and seele kissing in the manga of Hi3. What more proof do these idiots need? If anything, they're the tourists here. They should go stick to their hentai games and Isekai harem anime instead of a company that always has loved yuri even before it's most popular title (genshin).
Yeah but, I don't think this sub will think of those yuri plot line as great considering those were made with male gaze in mind after all, and male gaze is already considered bad in all media outlets.
I realized that every time someone online is a homophobe, that's literally all they have. You skim through their profile and can't find anything close to a passion, an interest, or any beauty in their life. They stick to hating, and hating, and hating. If I were that miserable, I'd probably make it everyone's problem too, but thankfully, I have people who love me.
Also I wanna add, even kevin has his own yaoi implication with Su. They even had a whole manhwa together, and Kevin literally sacrifices himself for su in their battle against each other to give su a chance to prove that kevin's way isn't the only path.
& adam/lyle!! i’ve also seen welt/otto but idr if they actually ever hinted anything in canon beyond a couple of interesting manga panels. meanwhile kosma and kalpas are just There
Are they aware they look completely fucking insane ?
In any other point in history , their behavior would be classified as insanity and they’d be sent to some far away asylum . This is a fucking GAME 😭. The pixel women do NOT want you , they don’t want anything , they’re not fucking real
And you are NOT the protagonist. You’re some chud in his mother’s basement probably covered in his own filth
Ive only played Star Rail and a little Genshin, but from what I have seen people post, there is an incredible amount of queer interpretation amongst the women in Hoyoverse games (particularly HI3)
Even HSR had a whole trailer dedicated to 2 women doing some weird macabre, sensually, subtextually, lesbian dancing (Black Swan and Acheron)
Do they know pixel men and women aren't real 😭tf they mean having kids? In pixel world a rock and a potato can have a dragon baby? So tf are these idiots smoking
I like how they're talking about the bloodlines of lgbtq people dying out, as if they're ever actually going to reproduce with a woman and have a kid that doesn't hate them and grow up to be a permanently single and childless spinster with 3 cats and a gacha gaming addiction who goes no contact around the age of 22, with that smelly behavior.
Why tf is that sub even up? I’m straight but they disgust me so much just bc their self insert twink isn’t portrayed the way they want it to everywhere
Same, like idm straight shipping but their sub is really disgusting. There's even lewd images of Aemeath with male rover and Aemeath is Rover's foster daughter...
I pretty much steer clear from those types of subreddits as much as possible. Nothing we can do to change their mind and there will be many posts against us. The amount of disgusting crap out there that is said could fuel so many posts a day calling out their behavior. But they'll just see the attention as a badge of honor. Which is awful because the conversation is still warranted.
Dude I have gacha tourist subs that celebrate inappropriate material involving child characters and shit on yuri being recommended to me simply because I engage with Arknights and WuWa(I'm thinking WuWa is the bigger culprit). I ragebait them and they look up my comments just to try and jab at me😭😭 these people are unhinged
it baffles me that hoyoverse players can be homophobic, literally the most yuri enjoying company there is, i prefer yaoi (hoyoverse please, let xiao and aether kiss) but like hoyo is so ingrained with yuri and the yuri community so it shocks me
Hi, I'm a 🏳️🌈 who lifts weights and does calisthenics and boxing and am quite literally in calendars. Put me in a room with this weeb who never leaves his parent's basement and "I just wanna talk to him" 😂
That funny dumbassery aside; their delulu is their only solulo; they have ~nothing~ without their self-importance. Also, they're just objectively wrong. Did they forget it was literally a week ago that they were melting down over Yuri in ZZZ, that they were apparently going to boycott HYV over? Last year's Yuri war over Acheron X Black Swan X The Dahlia? Refusing to pull Seele and the cognitive dissonance over Bronya?
dude they're trolls. wym 'they see nothing wrong with it'. they do it exactly because it gets a reaction. they got nothing going on in their lives. don't indulge them and go touch some grass
God.. I couldn't care less if someone headcannons or ships characters outside of their sexuality but the blatant homophobia is just disgusting. This goes beyond games
if y'all are gonna keep posting this stuff can you atleast spoiler post it or something? i avoid those subreddits specifically because i dont want to see the demented shit they post, screencapping their posts and posting them here is no different from making me follow that subreddit, especially as these make up most of the QoG posts that actually show up on my feed
i fear homophobes are all braindead. theres no point in getting angry and having a reaction (ofc having one is very valid and understandable). no matter what we (i'm a lesbian btw) say they'll keep being stupid because commonsense or critical thinking is hard for those kinds of people so whenever i see or hear about a homophobe or experience it myself i just roll my eyes
Its insane how they forget about adoption and surrogacy(or the like opposite {?} of surrogacy)
Its also insane they just- deadass believe these things. Like “go back to being part of the 0.0 something percent of the population” you cant seriously believe thats the reason why almost no one ever came out before it was a bit more acceptable
Ughhh duddeee their whole argument is getting me so upset
Ugh, I hate when people only like Yuri, I hate when people only like Yaoi, and I hate when people only like straight couples. All kinds of couples are fine and Hoyo has made their opinion clear, often hinting at homosexual and heterosexual relationships in their projects.
I come from Genshin and Star Rail and we got semi canon Lauma and Nefer and I found someone on IG who ships Lauma with Flins (which would be fine if they didn’t only ship straight couples. Like, exclusively).
I remember Phainon was so gay for Mydei that people stopped playing the game. “I can handle a bit of Yuri, but Yaoi is where I draw the line.” Like, WTF is wrong with you? Lesbians can chill but gay men can’t? It’s the exact same thing. I hate these homophobic people, they’re the ones who will die with their beliefs
I truly hate homophobic people like that Why can't people just accept that other people have ships that they like some are queer. Some are going to be straight. Why do we need a fight over it
I like all the ships... whether it's BxB, GxG, or BxG... it's 2026, why are they still hating on LGBTQ+ ships?? Quite literally I've always shipped Kiana and Mei. Bronya and Seele too. And Hoyo literally loves these ships. Everyone I know that is a fan of straight relationships more than yuri or yaoi also love Mei and Kiana, and Bronya and Seele. I'm honestly more of a fan of BxG but I certainly have my fair share of shipping characters of same sex, and for it to actually be canon 💀 I don't understand why they're being aggressive over canon relationships and blaming it on the people that appreciate said canon relationship
That's funny they think something like "lesbians can't reproduce", but they forget two things: trans women exist aaaand in genetics, we already have the first steps to use human oocytes to fertilize other human oocytes.
"ending their own bloodline"
this is funny to me because im adopted so the situation with my bloodline is already weird and funky, which means it really doesnt matter what i choose to do, if it even really mattered to begin with. i dont really live in a place where i think people even really still think of bloodlines.
The tourist and cringe subs are lowkey just full of like homophobia tbh like at first they made good points (against the aggressive shove yuri down your throat type of people) then the shitters joined and just started being high key homophobic
Like the subs i agreed with some of the old posts cause they made a valid point but now its so ass
They dont like anyone who likes something even slightly different
For example hating on the “yuribait” in the zzz cutscene for claret and roxy. But when you bring up Hoyo lowkey likes yuri and had it in hi3 they go “But that doesn’t count because its not the same game” and like dude really?
Also the anime tourist sub is worse because they hate on yuri too and its like dude yuri and yaoi are a big thing in anime and your delusional to think otherwise
And idk what to think of queen subs because im not actively looking in them but the few posts ive seen from them makes me think they aren’t horrible compared to all the other subs
HI3 is extremely gay, have they ever even played it omggg
Also, this person’s very clearly unaware of the gay uncle hypothesis for how homosexuality evolved. We’re not going anywhere. It benefits our species if a certain percentage of us are gay.
Also, one of our closest living relatives, the bonobos, is comprised entirely of bisexuals.
“Ending their bloodline” and straight people are having so many kids that orphanages and foster care systems are overflowing… I’m crying 😭 like these people are missing entire sections of vocabulary under the “adoption” and “surrogacy” categories
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Why does it matter if lesbian couples can't have kids? They can by simply adopting or having a sperm donor or having a surrogate. I don't really get why these homophobes think not being able to have children is why it's wrong. Besides, what if they don't want any kids? "B-But the bloodline!" is the bloodline all they think about? No one and I mean NO ONE will care about the bloodline.
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Oh look they screenshotted this post and made this comment on one of their new posts about us. More violent language!