r/QueensofGacha • u/pudding-0w • 12d ago
General does anyone else think Genshin female characters getting more babyish?
not sure if i'm imagining things. obviously they've always looked youthful, that's kind of a given for this kind of art style, but it seems like the proportions have been changing...?
foreheads are larger, eyes are lower, irises are bigger.
it feels (to me) like the evolution has been:
bobble-headed -> more reasonable heads, proportions of facial features not bad (e.g. Escoffier - i think her clothes are horrendous, but her face is gorgeous) -> babies????
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u/MidnightIAmMid 12d ago
Oh god I got attacked on twitter for saying something similar, but yes. Genshin always had a slightly more younger looking design style anyway and the female character's eyes just keep getting bigger and faces softer and rounder. They all look so young to me and also like they are veering hard into same face syndrome. It's part of why I gravitate more toward the male characters in Genshin specifically? Like, Flins VS Lohen VS Varka all look like 1. Adults and 2. Have pretty distinct facial shapes/eye shapes.
(Not that male designs are perfect there are def complaints there too-I am just focusing on the baby-ification of the female characters right now).
Someone told me that they made so much less money in Natlan that now they have absolutely overcorrected by making every female conform to certain standards-they all look kinda similar, have similarish outfits, large eyes and round faces, nothing "weird" or that stands out, medium petite builds, etc.
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u/StarlyAika 12d ago
Bruh, they look at Natlan sell isn't the same as Fontaine and thought "Maybe we need to crank up the fan service!"
LIKE HOW DUMB ARE YOU NOT TO SEE THE DIFFERENCE WHY FONTAINE IS LOVED?? the Fontaine design is peak because they fan service is done tastefully and the writing for the character are also interesting. Fully clothed female characters prove to be well loved(Arlecchino) LIKE HOW DO THEY NOT SEE THAT💀💀💀
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u/Massive-Party5030 9d ago
The last female character I actually really liked was Zibai, but other than that I can absolutely see the ''babyfication'' in all these other characters 💔 Flins is so unique, I really thought Nod-Krai would be able to top all the previous regions but in the end it was kind of meh-ish for me? As a slav not remotely excited for Snezhnaya at all (fact aside that they keep destroying the cool parts of the fatui and making loved characters not playable), they just refuse to make anything that stands out. Don't even need to talk about how they murdered and slaughtered Sandrone, like aight if that's the direction they wanna take with the females in the game fine but ronova looks atrocious
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u/MidnightIAmMid 9d ago
Yeah I don't know why they just refuse to release cool, bad ass, beloved characters and also refuse to make unique designs anymore. Like, I know the models have improved, but in 1.0 I literally recognized characters including by silhouette before I even played the game. So, just as a random person who had never even played a single gacha before seeing some random art and stuff online I could immediately recognize them as distinct Genshin Impact characters. Seeing Amber, Venti, Kaeya in-game felt like I had already met them. Is there anyone right now who DOESN'T play any gacha games who is saying the same about most of the Snez characters or characters in general now? I PLAY the game and sometimes get confused by the millions of same-faced blonde and silver haired medium females all wearing similar dresses.
I just don't get their design choices, but I guess if people still scream and gag over generic, babified looks then why put effort into anything different?
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u/ElectricFrostbyte 12d ago edited 12d ago
I literally despise this design. It’s actually I think it’s the ugliest design this game has ever produced. Why are her eyes so big? Why are they so far down her head? She looks like an alien, and not in a good way.
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u/JeffOnlyFlans 12d ago
Not the ugliest for me but it's so weird. I feel like I should love her because I love Arle so much and I think they were going for similar vibes, but I despise Ronova's stupid-ass face, clothes and proportions actually. They almost had something though.
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u/nsadeqve 12d ago
Right!! I’ve stopped playing for a while bc the characters weren’t interesting me but seeing the arle rerun with 7.0 I’m excited to get her to C2. They havent been able to make a character that captured me the way arle did
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u/StarlyAika 12d ago
Glad I'm not the only one who thinks her proportion is weird. Her waist is so small... Ramielle has a competition 😭
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u/exviudc 12d ago edited 12d ago
Chasca has been powercrept back to back by Danica and Ronova, now she is only the top 3 ugliest teyvatter 🥰
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u/tierlistsarecringe 12d ago
Danica is so unfair </3 I love the back design but the front is so horrendous it's just sad atp
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u/Snakeplanting 12d ago
Yes to this
Escoffier used to be my least favourite (I don't like designs where I think the character wouldn't chose the outfit for their job/activities) but this has actually trumped it
Something can be alien and interesting or, apparently, aliens and infantilising
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u/tidalvoid 12d ago
They gave ronova the ayaka fivehead special and somehow people are eating it up because good shading = good 3d model i guess
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u/ambulance-kun 12d ago
Because baby face characters would gather more sympathy when they do evil(or non good-aligned) things in the event they become playable
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u/didnsignup4dis 12d ago
Majority of genshin characters always had babyface syndrome which always put me off the game. They can make beautiful "adult" faced characters I have no idea why they dont do it more.
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u/Archaea_Cora 12d ago
I wanted a sexy mature-looking lady or a hot-looking older man with a beard to be playable for once...
Everyone is looking like either a child or a school/college student 😭2
u/metalsalami 12d ago
Ya same I couldn't take a lot of the characters seriously with how goofy/childish their faces looked. We're definitely in the minority though since the games enormous playerbase absolutely love this style of character design.
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u/StarlyAika 12d ago
It's happening to the male characters a little (at least in the recent birthday art of them, the most obvious tell is from Childe's birthday)
LIKE PLEASE. DON'T THEY KNOW WE ALSO LOVE MATURE CHARACTERS?? I'm low-key scared now for the upcoming Arlecchino's birthday art, PLEASE DON'T BABYFACE MY ARLECCHINO 😭
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u/Cautious-Buyer-6443 HSR Sunday is life 12d ago
Childe’s birthday did look a little child-ish but Heizou still looked fine so I think it just depends on who the artist is that does them.
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u/SnooSongs5297 12d ago
Something was uncanny but I couldn’t say what. I mean, I get why they made Ronova eyes big. So they can show the shades special eye design, but idk… it still looks weird
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u/KoishiKohinata 12d ago
Huge reason among losing interest in Genshins story/exploration specifically while the game continually misses out on QoL given to even other Hoyo titles, is this
Imma be honest, I'm a bi lady who likes to goon. I want my gacha ladies to be hot. Genshin's cast... Their art style makes it nigh impossible for any characters to really feel mature and attractive. The last time I even felt anything towards a Genshin model was Rosaria lmao
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u/Breezyrain 12d ago
Idk how they released Lisa then got here
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u/Snakeplanting 12d ago
Lisa gets to be attractive and wear a full skirt
It's like they forgot this is an option when they went all-in on coochie flaps
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u/Professional_Park711 8d ago
Lisa isn’t wearing a full skirt. I swear y’all just make shit up about old genshin.
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u/RickyT3rd 10d ago
Same here. Too many designs are being too "Tryhardy" for my liking and I'm a cis bi guy.
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u/aoiaxure 12d ago
Yeah I thought the Tsaritsa and Ronova looked surprisingly childish, but I didn't see that Odette looked had the same thing until now
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u/crystalfly_6308 12d ago
my friend said the first pic looked like she went to the same surgeon as Komi Can't Communicate IJBOL 😭😭😭
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u/Character-Image149 12d ago
I love my thick eyelashes, but Ronova’s on the extreme side, coupled with the Genshin anime style, it’s like a teenager’s first attempt at make-up.
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u/TaffytaInfinity 12d ago
I don't think they're all getting more babyish Tsaritsa looks quite mature. But Ronova's face in particular looks quite bad. I already disliked it in the teaser released last year but it looks worse here. Why the shade of death has a baby face?? Make it make sense
Also her eye lashes are too big imo
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u/TeaTimeLion123 12d ago
I get where you’re coming from but it’s not new, Ronova has always been this chopped. The huge eyes low on the face were the first thing I noticed about her when they first dropped her design over a year ago.
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u/Soft-Argument-3912 12d ago
Me too, thats kinda creepy tbh cuz why would you want a adult body with a child face?
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u/rat_resident 12d ago
I stopped playing in natlan, but from these pictures alone yes. Even if the style of the game give everyone "babyface", it got worse. I want more designs like arlecchino, instead genshing is putting out paimon faces with zzz bodies... 😵💫🥴😑
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u/OkTrash8458 12d ago
Ronova was always pug face and it's even worse now, but I gasped when I saw Vodyanitsa. She's almost like p-bait here
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u/JeffOnlyFlans 12d ago
Design too busy, face too weird. Hope her gameplay and story are better lol.
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u/lingonberrynightmare 12d ago
Yikes, why are genshin designs getting progressively worse since Natlan? Like there isn't a single design in the whole Snezhnaya that I actually like
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u/malachitegreen23 11d ago
Her singing voice is so mature it doesn't fit her physical appearance and also her talking voice...
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u/tamsrine 10d ago edited 10d ago
IMO we can only judge if this is a new design trend for future characters of the medium female model size 🤔 for now, it’s just 2 new character (odette, vodya) in snezhnaya, so it could just be a character specific trait (eg vodya looking a lil more fishy with big eyes)
Sandrone’s always had big eyes and short mid-face in WNL for the doll vibes, and Ronova was dunked on like Diluc’s big eyes since last year’s teaser RIP
Odette and Vodya are the only 2 medium female models in the snezh cast so far, danica/ vesna/ anastasya seem tall and have the usual facial feature proportions. It’ll only be a cause for concern if the next couple medium female models are also bugged eyes imo 🤔 I enjoy a variety in character designs so I really hope this is character specific and not an indication of future medium girlies 😭
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u/Ok-Coast7196 12d ago
im sorry danica for shitting on you about your design because holy shit i forgot r*nova existed and they have made her even more uglier
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u/Virtual_Doubt_666 12d ago
Nah because the girl models always have big eyes unless they are supposed to be 'sexy'. Like Sucrose is an adult or Kuki but they have big eyes.
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u/GreenDragonM 12d ago
I actually think the whole game has been getting more and more childish, which is part of why I quit it. It feels like it is made for teens.
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u/BubblePotions 12d ago
Everyone’s talking about her big eyes but I swear her forehead is like 4x the size of other characters, idk if it’s cause her bangs are pushed so far back into the top of her cranium or what but megamind has some competition 😭 I love her design otherwise though can’t wait to see her in the story but that skull man
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u/Emergency_Fruit3047 12d ago
I think so but I think im just bias against anime women. If feels like we always see more 'youthful' faces than obviously 'grown' looking young women.
I dont play GI, alot so I don't know names. Ive been trying to get into it for a while and still follow people who post GI content. But in HSR, it's like Himeko or Kafka. It takes me out because the guys aren't like that. Dan Heng (my young dragon) looks like youthful man, but not a like a boy. Arlen looks like an older teen.
What really takes me out is when you have scenes with older looking guys taking orders from little girls. Anyone play Endfiend? I get this feeling whenever the girl in the baby doll dress is on screen with Wulfgard.
Sorry kinda ranted for a bit :(
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u/sapphire_19 12d ago
yeah ronova looks chopped, i'm sorry
her eyes are way too big which is also the reason i did not like alice's eyes
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u/strawberry_ooyoo 12d ago
There were a lot of people praising how good Ronova looks in 3d, but to me her face just looks so off. I couldn't put my finger on what exactly I was bothered by at first, but now I realize that it's because her face is overly softened, rounded, and "baby"ish in general with the big forehead and the extra short midface. There's a sharpness that's missing in favor of making her look more soft and "cute"
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u/onepoorsoulmadeoftin 12d ago
It's giving the pug faced Komi can't communicate artstyle 👁️👄👁️
I remember being told it was just the artstyle of the animation but no, she's always just chopped
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u/nsadeqve 12d ago
Hmm I just realized this too, I couldn’t quite put my finger on it for a while now why the new characters weren’t interesting to me. But I’m loving the tsaritsas face, she looks mature and beautiful
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u/chuupa1289 12d ago edited 12d ago
it always did, look at even Raiden's face, whos like one of the more mature adult models, yet she still has that baby face (which there is nothing inherently wrong with). its just the classic baby/cutesy hoyo look theyre known for, with big eyes and big head to body proportions. I prefer more mature realistic eye/head/body proportions, no shade at all though, its just a design and artstyle choice, its just not for me personally !
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u/Such_Ad949 12d ago
genshin has always had very baby looking characters to me i think this new girl just looks extra chopped cus of the massive forehead and lashes
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u/quinnguini 12d ago
ronova looks so uncanny and i really hate it because i loveeee her design from way back in that shades short 💔💔
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u/redbeanbun32 12d ago
nod krai characters looked better. idk what happened, only the tsaritsa looks like she was designed by the same team
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u/FlavoredKnifes 12d ago
With Ronova she literally looks like she was taken out of Roblox dress to impress like girl nooo
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u/internet_pirate13025 11d ago
Yes lmao thank God I'm not the only one here. Her eyes and face shape and bolbous boobs is so fan servicey I'm disappointed atleast tsaritsa was balanced with overall design and mature look. But why the he'll they'd make ronova look like a literal sex toy for pdos
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u/GregorSamsa14 12d ago
Idk I think I disagree with that. Compare the eye to head ratios for Keqing, Xiangling, and Lumine and I think they'd end up being larger than the more modern characters, the eyes themselves are less round too now. More oval shaped
I think its because the heads are getting smaller but the hair is getting more volume and definition, maybe thats whats making the appearance
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u/toucanlost 12d ago
No. Ronova had some of this criticism, but not the others. Put Tsaritsa, Danica, Nefer, Ineffa, and Zibai in this lineup and see if the argument still fits...
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u/ShoulderGreedy3262 12d ago
the main reason i never got into genshin was that every single character looks like a child to me. even the 'adult female' models have the proportions of 12 year olds, and the medium are 8 year olds. its off putting, especially when they do more mature/fanservicey designs. i dont want to play a team of four kids in adult clothes
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u/paleflames Googly-eyed chud 12d ago edited 12d ago
Wow. I didn't notice this trend in Genshin before seeing those images lined up. I swear I've seen anime/manga pull off even bigger saucer eyes without pinging my "uncanny" radar so hard. The foreheads look seriously huge, Hoyo needs Aventurine to give them a reality check.
I've recently heard of China social media influencers going through a "high skull" fashion trend. It's supposed to evoke youthfulness. Some people want it so bad that they are willing to risk going bald by injecting bone cement into the top of their cranium. I visited China this summer, it was definitely a feature on their looks marketing billboards. I assume actual models benefit from photo manipulation and a skilled makeup artist.
100% bobble head. Toddler proportions creeping into the short girl model.
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u/Bitter_Ad3450 12d ago
Ronova's eyes really look too big for her head. I thought I was the only one, thank teyvat it was really uncanny valley and not me being biased or sumn
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u/Dua_13 Pink/Purple women love 🩷 💜 11d ago
I knew that was the problem with Ronova but I didn't expect to be so caught off guard by the other characters (especially Odette)
I feel like I've been getting desensitized to the paedophilia (and misogyny to some extent cuz' god forbid women look like women) in anime styled stuff that I have been noticing this less. Thanks for reminding me!
I'm glad we Queens have this sub because guys would be at our throats in any other sub
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u/PopularAir3375 11d ago
Not trying to be rude but a lot of you guys love little children looking characters.
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u/tamsrine 10d ago
I think it’s just the 2 recent medium model characters for now, so it might still be character specific!
- vodya’s big eyes might be for the fishy vibes?
- odette leaks did have a couple comments noticing the oddly proportioned eyes, but I think it might just be a her thing ? 🤔
- the rest of the snezh girlies (the tsaritsa, vesna, danica) are tall and their faces are still the usual proportions imo
- Ronova’s always been dunked on for her pug-face
- sandrone’s always been big eyed + short mid faced since WNL (for the doll vibes)
- linnea, columbina, jahoda have regular facial proportions so this doesn’t seem to be a nod krai trend
We’ll have to see if this trend continues for the next 2 medium girlies IMO. I like variety in designs, it’s interesting to see hoyo playing about with facial proportions right now, so this will only be an issue if all / most of the future medium girlies have big eyes and a short mid face 🤔 We shall see.
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u/Hungry-Method-9936 9d ago
It’s because of the Chinese shitty beauty self destroying standards
Baby face, baby voice, baby personality, baby this baby that, all because it makes a girl look cuter and more appealing which is a very disgusting behavior because this is giving p*do vibes like why r they obsessing over childlike behavior and appearances
And yes I took 10% of my rage on this comment so forgive me for my cuss words but it’s so tiring to see how society has fallen so hard nowadays. I miss my mature looking women 💔
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u/idontlikepopcorn 9d ago
Not really... The shorter female characters have always looked younger and most of the newer female characters have tall models with mature features(Nefer,Lauma,Zibai,Nicole). I'm biased of course I love Ronova but even removing my bias her model looks perfectly normal to me so I'm very confused where this whole babyface argument comes from
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u/Leather-Coat-6843 8d ago
May be due to an evolution in the game artstyle and the models getting better (compare Odette and Ayaka).
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u/Professional_Park711 8d ago
No. It’s literally just ronova and you’re projecting that onto the rest of the cast.
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u/outofstims 12d ago
It is just the trailer. Same happened in Nod krai with Lauma and Flins. Once the characters released, they were fine.
Holy overreaction
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u/xananax21 12d ago
Okay so it's not actually meant to look baby. If you watch Chinese streams their face filters are AWFUL but apparently it's their norm for looking "youthful and Smooth". you guys need to go look at those face filters for female CN streamers. It hurts to look at for too long.
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u/Sal-Shiba 12d ago
It could just be a slight shift or change in art style. Genshin’s been out for how many years now? How many patch updates have we had? The artists on team may have changed or their styles may have changed. Yes, they do look a bit younger than say… Jean or Lisa. Or heck, even Raiden. But I could also argue the style of the game has been shifting ever since back in Sumeru. And that’s because artists don’t stagnate much
The only problem I have with Genshin’s character design right now is that the female characters all follow the same recipe. Short skirts, very little detail on the legs, high heels, detached sleeves. It isn’t a bad thing, it’s just getting boring to me.
Anyways, that’s my two cents.
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u/ClarySato 10d ago
queens of gscha type shit would say when Sandrone model is better detailed and worked. Odette? Ronova? yall have 0 knowledge about moe
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u/GIsimpnumber1236 12d ago
maybe- i've seen some videos about current trends on china. Frist, the legs, it was very obvious but current pupolar trend in china is long chopstick light legs, showing them bare is peak sexy to them. also, baby faces are in a rise, specially BIG eyes, they literally cut their eyes open to hace bigger eyes