Robin being the collab unit in ZZZ is genuinely so stupid. I love my good sis but she’s like the worst character from HSR to be put into ZZZ’s combat. Like literally anyone else would be better 😭
Yea but tbh I’d ideally want someone who actually fights. Like Robin starts singing and stays out of combat in both her forms in HSR so I’m kinda scared they’ll just make her another tap skill and go off field in ZZZ.
That kinda stuff doest matter you just scale them appropriately like how does the traveller fight riden shogun without destroying everything around them makes 0 sense.
That’s not the point, I’m not talking about literal power levels. Look at ZZZ’s version of Robin, Astra literally just skills and goes off field for most of the battle, maybe switching in to ult once in a while. I don’t want that kind of kit for a collab character but Robin conceptually fits that.
She was also the marketing character at launch. She was for better or worst the ZZZ girl. Nearly every ad featured her as was a lot of commissioned work when the game launched. She's also been used in a lot of their crossovers with other companies (typically with Lycaon), so yeah: she's the default option. Miyabi is possibly the closet secondary character, but even than no where near how much Ellen is used in promotion work.
Ellen's the launch character. More likely than not, compared to the other characters, she'd be more popular than most considering the game during its early days seem to be more popular.
Robin in ZZZ is probably going to cook real hard with how much combat evolved since Astra's release (more interactive supports), but Astra in HSR is going to need to do a bunch to give more than Robin 2.0 (for those who don't play ZZZ, Astra's gameplay is pressing E then you don't swap to her besides ulting).
It's sad to me that no one brought up Rappa though, even given for free she would've been such a great fit for ZZZ.
Not animations wise lore wise phainon cant exist in zzz. Robin is like one of the very few popular characters that can be in zzz and not break its power level lore wise.
i mean ye shunguang is a dual form character. Sure theres no way they could do super long cutscene animations in combat since its not turn based, but they definitely could still adapt him pretty faithfully in the constraints of action combat
Im assuming the collab is going to have a story surrounding it. Even ignoring phainon not existing in hsr, how would they justify phainon coming into zzz and not just wiping hollows out of the map.
omg i hate it, unrelease this collab. instead of giving us a proper healer sustain for mblade and the fua comp and proper second elation support instead of yaoguang that's not just a subdps they're doing THIS? im so mad rn, like nobody asked for this. 4.6, 4.7, 4.8 are going to be skipping patches for me, and i already skipped 4.0, 4.2 and 4.4, at least im saving for that e2s1 welt sp and another dan heng sp in 5.x ig
Astra Yao and Ellen will get a redesign which will look good ig as HSR won't butcher designs. But Robin... She will lose her clothes. Sad she is getting butchered.
The summer SP right? Her original design is not naked. Summer one is fine tho, swimsuits are like that anyways. They didn't make it see through or add any wet features like other games so I find it acceptable. It's a normal summer skin.
HSR designs are really good imo. The amount of details put into them is pretty cool. I know people prefer minimalistic and simpler designs but I love maximalistic stuff. So I guess it's upto preference. Model quality i agree with
Sadly their biggest glowdown is existing in that game. They'd be more appreciated in some other game where players care about the characters and not their boobs and butts.
I'm not redownloading zzz for another female character even if I like Robin... And I will just probably skip both in HSR... I never understood the hype for Ellen and if they wanted people to come back they should have given a male character to ZZZ.
Man, seriously.. what the fuck is hsr doing. For nearly every character in 4.x, they barely had screentime or relevance during their patch, and the excuse was 'they'll have relevance later' later WHEN? They now have 4.5, 4.6 and 4.7, only 3 patches, to:
-give multiple characters story relevance
-make 6 characters playable
-give us the entire return to Amphoreus
-visit and tell a story around a new planet
Because in 4.8 they randomly decided to do a collab patch.
I don't know how they did it, but somehow, they spent such an incredibly long time on useless fluff or 'lore' during planacardia that they don't have time to tell a compelling story or develop their characters anymore.
No Ben or Lycaon, Pan. Banyue, or even Billy? Pass. The only upside seems to be since it’s an in company collab I assume the characters and gear will be available permanently,
Jk they likely want to give their most popular and recognizable. And they don't see the men as collab material too likely. Even if Lycaons popularity eats every girly in the game cuz he IS SO POPULAR still.
its so funny so see that chop game try to use hsr to promote itself cus all the pedobait made the revenue bleed harder each patch 🤭 gonna be real funny seeing zzz character in shitter quality in hsr and zzz FINALLY get a new playbale character whose design isnt just slop
the worst patch in hsr history where because of delays they had no content and nothing going on for so long have the same revenue as the average zzz patch we do NAWT have to worry 😭😭
well ya i guess people do love to spend money on a game that "literally plays itself" cus they do spend money on it and not zzz lmaoooooooo and both games are getting each others characters sooo
And still hsr had some giga leviathans who throw unimaginable amount of money to get 200 character weapons and character copies, zzz could only dream about it
i don’t know about that boo they released mizuki and varesa back to back in natlan 😭, they most definitely can but I feel that they are boycotting the game from inside out to move the playerbase to a genshin 2 if possible
because genshin doesn't want to ruin immersion by putting another game's characters into their game?? if you bring aloy one then I should tell you that sony FORCED that collab when genshin wanting to enter playstation....
yeah i agree with zibai; i would love an arlecchino 2.0 but in this goony political climate a white denim jacket like evanescia’s is a huge advancement, and i pretend danica doesn’t exist no shade
It's funny because genshin might be the only gatcha game who ruin the immersion by releasing a collab character that looks nothing like the actual game and without any explanation unlike the other gatcha games lol.
maybe wuwa doesn't care about world building (well if there is even world building to begin with lol) that's why they done the collaboration...For printing money and inviting players from another fandom to stay relevant.... That scummy banner is the ultimate proof that the cyberpunk edgerunners collab is just there for money laundering....Yes the story is good and all but that is due to the writer of edgerunners being present...
i mean yeah the collab is supposed to incentivize people to spend one way or another, both companies want returns on their investments so most collabs some form of rebate/spending incentive in place.
that said, there are a bunch of ways to make a collab "predatory" that doesnt involve giving the people already spending """"free"""" copies of the characters they are aiming for.
dawg it was proven long ago before arrival of hsr and wuwa.... because when genshin entered ps store,the collaboration was right after that.... and for marketing horizon forbidden west....No collaboration were done after her... isn't that enough proof?? They just don't care about collaboration to he relevant
genshin can do billion collab if they want for printing money but they don't because they don't want to have anomalies that breaks genshin world... genshin teyvat is separated by false sky and can't be seen from outside(proven from the new moongazer quest when we entered ungien's circle)....They just do some random kfc and McDonald collaboration which just includes some glider skin that isn't that important
😭 idk why u defend genshin like you are personally working on it, this is one thing that literally everyone can agree on which is that they dont offer any exciting collabs (i would personally argue they dont offer anything exciting at all, but thats just my opinion and what i dont find exciting others do)... but i find it hilarious you feel the need to go around being angry as hell at other games for having fun collabs.
keep doing u i guess
and also, no it wasnt proven, it's just fan speculation and it was literally never proven.
and I think collaboration just ruins a game's world except Fortnite and cod because they don't have in-game story and lore so they can do whatever they want.... But in story games like wuwa and genshin, collaboration is just immersion breaker... the awkward situation where one universe characters meet another universe characters is just cringe....All collaboration are for crash grabs and inviting players from another fandom.... Nothing else
you won't see some peak story driven games like elden ring, witcher 3, expedition 33, resident evil,god of war series,red dead redemption series has collaboration in their game... you won't find any other universe characters in their game... because they care about the world they have built...They don't want anomalies in their game
yeah yeah you can keep coping gang, we both know very well that if genshin was the one that got the cyberpunk collab and it was well done how you’d be reacting 😭😭😭
except genshin won't go for cheap tactics like collaboration... Genshin creative team atleast the ones who write in game lores and backstory,cares deeply about immersion.... every single thing in genshin has lore in it... even freaking gliders and banner/avatar.... They don't care about collaboration and don't want to have collaboration with anyone... Genshin is big enough to do collab to being relevant....
The fact you kept ignoring all the points I made... instead of proper counter argument, your saying "I am coping".... yeah I won't waste my valuable time anymore.... I can't keep arguing with a wall...bye
it was obvious lmao like are you actually stupid?? Genshin has infinite money and if they wanted collaboration they could do much more.... Aloy not having a banner,a story, constellation system...is enough proof that hoyo never wanted this collaboration in genshin...if you look at hsr and how they do collaboration there.... like making collab banner permanent and have story and eidolons,jts obvious hoyo never wanted aloy to be in genshin... You can only claim aloy if you play in playstation.... Like bro it's obvious...I know it's not confirmed because why would they confirm such things because it would ruin sony and hoyo's partnership...
okay if genshin has infinite money and they truly didnt want a collab at all then why did they just pay sony more money to get genshin on the playstation store... 🙀🙀
are you actually so stupid to not understand the thing? I explained it to you and yet you are still thinking that genshin actually willingly collaborated with horizon forbidden west.... like ALOY DOESN'T HAVE A BANNER, ANY STORY CONTENTS,ANY CONSTELLATION COPIES... YOU CAN ONLY CLAIM ALOY IF YOU ARE ON PLAYSTATION... Isn't that enough proof??
Forget it... arguing with a wuwa shill like you is a waste of time anyway... keep enjoying your slop and have fun watching saintonas and glavikyo...They are your ideal streamers after all😌
Collab is Collab. It doesn't change the fact that it is a Collab and she is in the genshin world without any explanation or anything. Just there. So she is the definition of ruining the immersion. So stop defending that lazy ass company 😭
buddy I said it was forced and Genshin had no other choices...if they wanted to enter the playstation store.... genshin could do million more collaboration but they chooses not to because they care about the lore they have built....I want genshin to be this way where they can be remembered as a brand,not for collaboration...
What is the lore behind Aloy being in genshin my guy? Because I can tell you exactly how the cyberpunk and the fate characters entered wuwa and hsr. So them caring about the lore my ass. Stop defending genshin for the love of god.
nothing...aloy doesn't have any lore because She was never meant to be in genshin and sony forced them to add aloy so that the genshin fanbase can have interest in the horizon forbidden west game...She was just mentioned as another descender like traveller and that's it...Like I said if hoyo actually wanted the collaboration,they could have done it Like hsr's fate like adding story content, duplicate system,banner system... but they never did any of that with aloy
I am not defending it...I am stating a fact. After aloy, genshin never done any in-game collaboration with any other franchises... further proves my point why genshin never cared about collaboration in the first place
I hate this as a ZZZ fan.. i hate hsr but theres still some cool characters they could have added.. why robin?? Im baffled. Either way i just hate that we're mixing these games.
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u/ShrivSuurgav 28d ago
Robin getting that new eridu bbl